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I am a westerner my self and i watch nearly almost everything in subbed, with a few acceptions of some dubs that i found had some potential. I think most anime is presented in its original language is the only way to watch anime. But i don't think you should make a generalized statement pointing to the entirety of the western fanbase as being idiotic or stupid. Like some one else said, it depends on the person in general. Some people have more experience in the anime industry and are more of an otaku then some people are in japan.

But like most of the western fanbase that in their is mid 20's grew up watching shows on cartoon network and toonami block, such as dbz, rurouni Kenshin, sailermoon, etc when it did become popular in america.

As far as the market and the success of some different genre's of anime, yeah mahou shoujo is definitively more popular in japan then it is in america.

As you can see alot of these series coming out are either loli/magical girl type series, that would just never become a popularity in the states.

Personally though my self, i indulge in most all different types of anime genre's, i am not to picky when it comes to watching something. The only things i stay away from are like Yaoi and hentai.

I have seen quite alot in the the Japanese market and if your a person that just watches shows that are licensed, dubbed in the market or mainstream, then i feel sorry for those individual, because they are really missing out on so much that the anime industry has to offer from japan.

I mean shit, if you like a hobby that originated from japan, its only natural that you learn some Japanese, or at least accept the fact that it doesn't kill you to watch something in Japanese with subtitles. Some of my friends won't watch anything accept English dubbed. Different strokes, different people i guess.

As do I. I really can't stand 90% of English dubs, and even the ones that are tolerable, I'd sometimes prefer to hear in Japanese. For some reason, English voice actors just irk me and the Japanese ones always seem to nail their character. Even though I can't speak or understand much Japanese, I feel like their voice actors are much more precise in the tone and delivery of their speech. Overall, just much more convincing.



I can vouch for that, seeing as that is how me and most of my friends got into anime.



Also agree, but that's probably because not much is shown here and I feel it is too late to start to introduce, especially with the popularity of Naruto and One Piece continuing to grow here. The average watcher won't feel the need to expand his or her horizons beyond that genre.



I sometimes wish I spoke the language so I could better understand lines that are either misinterpreted via subs or that rely on phonetic context (ie, puns). However, I have a hard enough time learning my European languages, so Japanese will have to wait.

This thread is interesting so far, I'd like to see what others have to say (both Westerners and non).

Comments like that are just reinforcing Armiga21's point.

This part doesn't make sense. I like watching foreign movies so should I learn French, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese, Thai, Korean, Japanese, etc...I will agree that sub is usually the best way to watch a foreign show. Though I wont blame anyone for wanting dubs.

western applies to the entire continent of north america, and south america, and to some people's definition even most of europe

The operative word in link9us's comment is "some".
If your hobby is watching foriegn media from any country then you will naturally learn SOME of the language(READ: Some. Not become magically fluent by watching) since many of the shows/movies even retain some of the original language either in the titles, character names, places, and activities of the localized product.

What can I say?
It's have it's ups & downs & filled with different type of anime fans.
Some who are shounen lovers & don't like any other type.Some who prefer to download all their anime.Some who been fans for years.Some are working hard in the industry to gives us anime fans anime.Some who look down on certain genres,type or whatever fit the conditions of anime & anime fans.Some who are hard working Americans with a good family.Some are respectable in real life,but idiots online (the internet does that to people).Some who are closet anime fans.Some who treat anime (in general) or certain anime as the words of god.Might I add that this doesn't talk about all,there's a lot more.
We're humans who are anime fans.I don't think you can generalize the whole fanbase as one thing because of a certain thing or the action of people.

--LoL Indeed. (Including self as an intermittent internet idiot)

The anime fanbase is terrible and the people in this topic are proof of it.

But the Japanese fanbase is even worse. I guess anime really attracts only the worst of people.

Yeah,you're proving your own ignorant point,buddy.
Well about yourself.

Well yeah. I'm just as equally terrible as the other terrible people that are part of the anime fanbase.

You don't need to tell me that.

Thanks for proving my point.

Let's not forget western anime fans are the only ones who

-Dub VS Sub wars (Japan wins by default since the only time they're exposed to anime dubs is some re-release where the Japanese BD set has foreign dubs on it)
-Insist American/European shows and comics are "anime/manga". All those Scott Pilgrim/Teen Titans fans inisisting their 'honorary manga/Japanese'. Yeah.. only westerners do that.
-Defend bad dubbing because of 'nostalgia' or 'well American's wouldn't get it!' or 'Well it's a kids show in Japan, they should butcher everything to make it a kids show in the US as well (Duel Masters, Pokemon, Shin-chan, etc)'

Yeah, and generally only Japanese fans care about the dumbest little things.

Look up the Kannagi incident. So many Japanese fans got angered because of the slight possibility that the main character of Kannagi may not have been a virgin.

That is infinitely more pathetic or stupid than anything you listed.

Let me guess you don't pay attention to the sort of things in cartoons that rile up the PTA and FCC?

I'm not sure what you're going for here. What do the PTA and FCC have to do with this?

I'm not sure what Japanese fans have to do with a topic about Western fans but you've attempted to include them. So I figured if you get to include an off-topic group and vilify their reactions I can do the same.

What do I, a western anime fan think of people in the west liking anime? I wonder.



Japan likes the big 3 also, fucking retards.

Oh look, someone seems to be stuck in 1997. What a surprise.

I had a feeling I was being trolled. But I mainly included Japanese fans because of Armiga seems to be under the impression that western fans are complete morons. I'm just saying that all anime fans are no matter where you go.

out of the so called big three only one piece gets any were near the top three tv ratings in manga Op is Out on its own iwth the 1/4ly sales 1o to 1 any thing else Naruto is 2nd this year so far Bleach has not been top 3 or 5 for years i