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Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 Episode 25 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 Episode 25 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
1045 81.70%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
113 8.84%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
46 3.60%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
27 2.11%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
48 3.75%
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09-28-08, 3:18 AM

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radiantfire said:
So you don't see the whole Anya/Marianne thing random?
Nor the whole Sword of whatever place random?

etc


Sword of Akasha fits perfectly into mythology and theme of the show. It depends on how a person saw the show from beginning.

If person wanted the repeat of death note with all only-realism things, then of course he would be disappointed.

If person wanted tactical gundam-mecha show, then of course he would be disappointed.

I saw geass as "Fantasy/Sci-fi" story about supernatural powers affecting the normal every-day lives ever since the beginning and was waiting for some sort of other place/dimension/mindrape ever since the Ep12 of R1 when C.C mind-raped Suzaku., so no. Akasha made a perfect sense for me, being the weapon made to destroy the public unconsciousness and other things.

Anya / Marianne - while at first I never expected Marianne to return as Anya, ever since the moment in R1 when everyone got connections and reasons from the death of Marianne, it was 95% clear to me that she is not completely dead. Then the whole "anya is blogging stuff" thing came in and Bingo! thoughts of her being/having Marianne appeared to me (been making Anya/Marianne-meeting-C.C-theories since R2 episode 14 or so.)

So yeah, the overall "it was good" " it was decent" "it was OK" depends on what a person expected from the show.

However naming the flaws(geass had them - pacing, animation problems, just-barely-believable-coincidence-situations), one should actually take a look if what he is saying is an actual flaw, since nowadays people tend to name everything they do not understand as plot-hole.

I am content with people who know why they hated geass and can actually name the reasons(reasons making sense, instead of the usual "its full of plot holes" option, used when talking about majority of tv shows).

What I am annoyed with is people naming geass r2 a trainwreck because :
A) its the hype. Everyone does it. Just like everyone loves death note.
B) My favorite character did not go the way i wanted it, so the whole show sucks.
C)It had scifi stuff, it sucks
D) It had fantasy stuff, it sucks.


Saying "I hated the show" is alright, but saying that "the show failed and was a trainwreck" just because person did not like it and person THINKS so is not accurate and is just plainly stupid.
 
09-28-08, 3:21 AM

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Could the guy on the wagon with C.C be Lulu?

And why is Schneizel still alive and Ohgi becomes successful? Ohgi was the dumbest BK of all.
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09-28-08, 3:39 AM
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No need to care about the criticism saying CG R2 is a trainwreck. As Director Taniguchi said in the interview,
Taniguchi Goro said:
Even if we have 100,000 enemies, one million supporters will bring us an overwhelming victory.

I have some dissatisfactions in the middle of the episodes but this good finale compensates for them. I'm ready to spend $500 or $700 to complete the DVDs.
 
09-28-08, 3:48 AM
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Take it easy guys and keep it civil. Opinions differ and that's a fact, no need to jump anyone just because they think different. So please stay friendly, insults won't be tolerated.

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09-28-08, 3:55 AM

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Alright, it seems that the last episodewas pretty complex and out of most of the people I've talked to, a lot of people don't seems to get it. I'm going to tie up all the lose ends with this post.

The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere.

However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass.

When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched her, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code.

Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS.

Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?"

Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead.
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09-28-08, 4:19 AM

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I'm really happy about the ending.
It was a little harsh, like about the end of the war : no details ^^"

But about Lelouch :
 
09-28-08, 4:34 AM

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Kohei_no_kimi said:
I'm really happy about the ending.
It was a little harsh, like about the end of the war : no details ^^"

But about Lelouch :



The most important people for him were Kallen and Shirley - he got flashbacks of Shirley, Rollo and of Kallen's kiss before he died.

If anything its Lelouch x Shirley_and_Kallen ending.
 
09-28-08, 4:43 AM

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Fai said:
Kohei_no_kimi said:
I'm really happy about the ending.
It was a little harsh, like about the end of the war : no details ^^"

But about Lelouch :


But we see also in memories Lulu x CC kiss...

The most important people for him were Kallen and Shirley - he got flashbacks of Shirley, Rollo and of Kallen's kiss before he died.

If anything its Lelouch x Shirley_and_Kallen ending.
 
09-28-08, 4:46 AM

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Nay, it's Lelouch x Suzzie ending. He died in the arms of the person he loved the most :D This ending is somehow a punch towards 'x x y' fandom. Anyways, Nunnaly reminded me of Princess Leia at Jubbas in Star Wars epi 6. Overall rating for now - 8/10 might drop to 7 over time, though.

Now it's time to pray that Sunrise won't trainwreck Gundam 00 s2.


"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled,
which leads to an unknown, secret place."
 
09-28-08, 4:52 AM

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now finally over, had fun watching this serie. a lot of story twist which I dont expected, and for me a satified end.


 
09-28-08, 5:10 AM

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Something tells me Lelouch became an immortal with a fully evolved geass before he was stabbed. The code doesn't seem to appear until they die, hence, why C.C. was wounded when she first inherited her code. Same happened with Charles in the World of C. All in all, I predict season 3...

Best scene in the final episode: Orange is an ORANGE FARMER GOD DAMN
 
09-28-08, 6:41 AM

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The only scene worth mentioning.. is as above.. Orange-kun being an orange farmer.

in b4 true end ova
 
09-28-08, 6:55 AM

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"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees." By Emiliano Zapata
 
09-28-08, 6:58 AM

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Well, this episode is.... epic awsomeness.

But the first season was better.
 
09-28-08, 7:04 AM

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is it just me or does the ending reminds me of Spice and Wolf (maybe Lelouch isn't dead after all?)

I agree with TC, those who hate Geass just because it is the cool new thing in town should really reconsider what they are saying


 
09-28-08, 7:11 AM

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Ah, got spoiled of everything when I was checking out the new Gundam 00 PV on Random Curiosity. Damn idiots posting about Geass spoilers on a Gundam PV discussion..


 
09-28-08, 7:48 AM

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kaminakun said:
is it just me or does the ending reminds me of Spice and Wolf (maybe Lelouch isn't dead after all?)


http://i38.tinypic.com/dfv9na.jpg

kaminakun said:
I agree with TC, those who hate Geass just because it is the cool new thing in town should really reconsider what they are saying


Wonder then why there are more people that actualy liked or even loved the series than there that not?

Season 1 was actually DECENT.
Season 2 was a total crap and waste of my time.
 
09-28-08, 7:50 AM
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Yeah, epic ending and pretty much made this anime completely awesome. I couldn't have imagined a better ending.

All hail Lelouch indeed.
 
09-28-08, 8:01 AM

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kaminakun said:
iI agree with TC, those who hate Geass just because it is the cool new thing in town should really reconsider what they are saying

Actually, I think it's the other way around.

People like Geass because that is the cool new thing in town.
 
09-28-08, 8:04 AM

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epic ending, couldn't have been better
 
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