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06-12-12, 6:10 PM

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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Just wondering how many people agree that he shouldn't be charged... is there anyone who thinks he should have had some restraint?
 
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06-12-12, 6:13 PM

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Why shouldn't he be? He just killed a guy.
 
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Pocketasces said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Just wondering how many people agree that he shouldn't be charged... is there anyone who thinks he should have had some restraint?


In the situation he had all authority to act the way he did. If he had "restraint" he could have caused the situation to become more dangerous as the pedophile might have had a weapon on him. Under Texas law (Castle Doctrine), he was completely in the right.

Scud said:
Why shouldn't he be? He just killed a guy.


Because he was well within his rights to do so.
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It's clearly a crime to kill him in a situation like that, but at the same time it's hard for me to say he was wrong. I can't imagine what a father would feel after seeing his young daughter assaulted like that.
 
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I find this type of story is the one where I can't have any sympathy for what has happened to that guy.

It's hypocritical, but I find what he did to be the most disgusting thing that anyone can do and he deserves what he gets.
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jrgcool35 said:
Pocketasces said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Just wondering how many people agree that he shouldn't be charged... is there anyone who thinks he should have had some restraint?


In the situation he had all authority to act the way he did. If he had "restraint" he could have caused the situation to become more dangerous as the pedophile might have had a weapon on him. Under Texas law (Castle Doctrine), he was completely in the right.

Scud said:
Why shouldn't he be? He just killed a guy.


Because he was well within his rights to do so.


I don't know much about Texas law.. there is a law that says you can punch someone to death incase they have a weapon? lol
 
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Narmy said:
It's clearly a crime to kill him in a situation like that, but at the same time it's hard for me to say he was wrong. I can't imagine what a father would feel after seeing his young daughter assaulted like that.


No it isn't a crime. The man was well within Castle Doctrine law.
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Ideally - Give that man a medal.
Realistically - He killed someone, there's no two ways about it, therefore he should be charged.
 
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Pocketasces said:
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Pocketasces said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Just wondering how many people agree that he shouldn't be charged... is there anyone who thinks he should have had some restraint?


In the situation he had all authority to act the way he did. If he had "restraint" he could have caused the situation to become more dangerous as the pedophile might have had a weapon on him. Under Texas law (Castle Doctrine), he was completely in the right.

Scud said:
Why shouldn't he be? He just killed a guy.


Because he was well within his rights to do so.


I don't know much about Texas law.. there is a law that says you can punch someone to death incase they have a weapon? lol


CASTLE DOCTRINE gives you permission to use deadly force if there is a threat in your house at ANY point in time.
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jrgcool35 said:
Narmy said:
It's clearly a crime to kill him in a situation like that, but at the same time it's hard for me to say he was wrong. I can't imagine what a father would feel after seeing his young daughter assaulted like that.


No it isn't a crime. The man was well within Castle Doctrine law.

The guy was an acquaintance the father had invited over. I'm not sure that applies here.
 
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Narmy said:
jrgcool35 said:
Narmy said:
It's clearly a crime to kill him in a situation like that, but at the same time it's hard for me to say he was wrong. I can't imagine what a father would feel after seeing his young daughter assaulted like that.


No it isn't a crime. The man was well within Castle Doctrine law.

The guy was an acquaintance the father had invited over. I'm not sure that applies here.


It applies completely because he violated the part of the law which gives the owner of the property permission to protect people within his house from threats.
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Narmy said:
jrgcool35 said:
Narmy said:
It's clearly a crime to kill him in a situation like that, but at the same time it's hard for me to say he was wrong. I can't imagine what a father would feel after seeing his young daughter assaulted like that.


No it isn't a crime. The man was well within Castle Doctrine law.

The guy was an acquaintance the father had invited over. I'm not sure that applies here.


it should apply.
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Well I can't exactly blame him for killing the guy. I say he's a great father for protecting his daughter. Don't charge him.
 
06-12-12, 6:21 PM

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Well I can't exactly blame him for killing the guy. I say he's a great father for protecting his daughter. Don't charge him.


There's no opinion here. He can't be charged. He is protected by both Castle Doctrine and Stand-Your-Ground Law which is even more powerful than Castle Doctrine.
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Why change the title of the news article? From the topic title it sounds like Father could be a priest and pedophile could be a generic pedophile which seem to make people misunderstand the context of his behaviour.

I mean, compare "father punches pedophile to death" to "Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter", people's reaction would be totally different.

I say this news wasn't as crazy as one we had in Toronto back in 09. A shop keeper chased down an attempted robber and the shop keeper was arrested on charges of "kidnapping" the robber because he constrained him in a car until the police came. Result? People were appalled at the ludicrous justice system and is now under changes.
 
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I'm on Team Dad, but getting off the hook completely is unrealistic.

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No it isn't a crime. The man was well within Castle Doctrine law.


And I love this law.
 
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jrgcool35 said:
It applies completely because he violated the part of the law which gives the owner of the property permission to protect people within his house from threats.

In that case, good for him. I hope he doesn't get charged for doing the right thing.
 
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Pocketasces said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Just wondering how many people agree that he shouldn't be charged... is there anyone who thinks he should have had some restraint?


Texas and many other states allow for the use of deadly force when defending yourself or others from sexual assault.
 
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The thing I find strange is that the doesn't even seem to be evidence that the guy he beat to death was actually doing anything. He said he walked in on him touching his daughter, but how can we know?

Anyway, beating someone to death isn't the best way to go about doing things, certainly not in this case, but I can understand why he did.

 
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