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06-11-12, 11:38 AM
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I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. |
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06-11-12, 12:33 PM
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Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. Pan151 said: :-/I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. |
#83
06-11-12, 4:36 PM
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ssjokg said: Then,if we are talking ufotable re adapting Fate and UBW ,then let them make prologue and Fate together and for the UBW and HF start the story from Archer vs Lancer. That would work as perfect lead-in to F/ha. have the route switch be from Avenger's POV. With him and or Bazett observing one timeline then other and then third, with appropriate F/HA important flashbacks about Bazett, etc in between Frankly thats the only sensible way I see them incorporating and adapting F/HA. Pan151 said: Because if we are not talking back-to-back, we just need Deen to adapt HF and there you go, all 3 routes adapted. No thank you, I'd ratherwatch paint dry than see DEEN rape another route. Pan151 said: n of 2 routes - it was a re-adaptation of a classic, several years from the original. Not at all the same thing... Its two different interpretations of characters - the "canon" manga version and anime-original version that was animated before that. |
#84
06-12-12, 7:37 PM
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Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. Pan151 said: I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. I have to say that this is a bit of stretch. Even though I love Higurashi I admit the animation was pretty bad. Still I can say it's probably the best Horror anime series ever made but that's because the horror genre of anime is seriously lacking. |
#85
06-12-12, 10:12 PM
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AidanAK47 said: Pan151 said: I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. I have to say that this is a bit of stretch. Even though I love Higurashi I admit the animation was pretty bad. Still I can say it's probably the best Horror anime series ever made but that's because the horror genre of anime is seriously lacking. Well, no other anime up to this day has ever given me the same combination of goosebumps and tears that Higurashi did - I've already seen 140+ of these damn things, and the only thing that comes even remotely close to it is PMMM, and maybe Elfen Lied in the tears department... Yah, the animation was indeed pretty bad. However, I do not consider animation quality to be of any significant importance in this particular series, just like I do not consider plot quality to be of any significant importance in something like, say, Bakemonogatari. It just doesn't really matter for what the series is trying to do... |
#86
06-13-12, 9:37 AM
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AidanAK47 said: Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. I don't focus on negative aspects while watching anime but the negative aspects in some cases are too transparent to not be noticed. Although the fact that I already got spoiled must be a big reason too. |
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06-13-12, 9:52 AM
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Lumathy said: AidanAK47 said: Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. I don't focus on negative aspects while watching anime but the negative aspects in some cases are too transparent to not be noticed. Although the fact that I already got spoiled must be a big reason too. Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. |
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06-13-12, 10:27 AM
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ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. |
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06-13-12, 10:54 AM
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AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. Modified by ssjokg, 06-13-12, 11:20 AM |
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06-13-12, 11:14 AM
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ssjokg said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever that started. If you love a good mind screw, then Chaos;Head is the way to go. Some of the ideas, like the delusion system are pretty cool. C;H isn't a favorite of mine by any means, but it was certainly worth checking out. I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred." |
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06-13-12, 1:52 PM
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AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. |
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06-13-12, 2:44 PM
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Fai said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. ...no? Why disagree if you agree with me? The VN is better than the anime. I am not debating that point. But either way both end up terrible. insan3soldiern said: I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. I think with some clever directing that twist could be pulled off. Wouldn't take too much effort. It's not like Ever17's twist which is straight out impossible to pull off in any other format. ssjokg said: Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. I admit the delusion system is interesting but I honestly think you would be better off not wasting your time on it. I finished Kara no Shoujo myself. I actually figured out the culprit before it was revealed. Was feeling pretty smug about it too. Though I can say the mystery is a little more multi layered than you think. |
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06-13-12, 3:23 PM
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AidanAK47 said: Fai said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. ...no? Why disagree if you agree with me? The VN is better than the anime. I am not debating that point. But either way both end up terrible. insan3soldiern said: I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. I think with some clever directing that twist could be pulled off. Wouldn't take too much effort. It's not like Ever17's twist which is straight out impossible to pull off in any other format. ssjokg said: Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. I admit the delusion system is interesting but I honestly think you would be better off not wasting your time on it. I finished Kara no Shoujo myself. I actually figured out the culprit before it was revealed. Was feeling pretty smug about it too. Though I can say the mystery is a little more multi layered than you think. Well I was at the part where |
#94
06-14-12, 4:37 PM
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Anything that will fix the shit that DEEN put out Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
#95
06-14-12, 10:37 PM
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I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. |
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06-15-12, 2:09 AM
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Code_Alchemy said: I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. which would please only some of the VN fans.Better finish at least the 3rd route and then move to FHA.FZ should just end where the LN ends there is nothing more.Unless you want to see Shirou's projection training,more Sakura abuse and Rin training.No thanks.As for the Heroic Spirits backstory thats in the hands of Typemoon not Ufotable. |
#97
06-15-12, 9:39 AM
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ssjokg said: Pretty much, the ten years between F/Z and F/SN are full of...Code_Alchemy said: I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. which would please only some of the VN fans.Better finish at least the 3rd route and then move to FHA.FZ should just end where the LN ends there is nothing more.Unless you want to see Shirou's projection training,more Sakura abuse and Rin training.No thanks.As for the Heroic Spirits backstory thats in the hands of Typemoon not Ufotable. Sounds like a party, oh let's not forget: The Servant's backstory, if at all shown in more complete forms would be in OVA's/Specials because most of them were released in extra material. For example, a lot of clarification on Saber's backstory, like how Mordred was born even though Saber and Morgana are both female, is completely exclusive to Character Material books. Modified by Leon-Gun, 06-15-12, 9:43 AM |
#98
06-23-12, 8:31 AM
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I'd love a Fate/Hollow Ataraxia adaptation, but I highly doubt that's ever happen. I think Ufotable (or Deen) will end up adapting Heavens Feel at some point. |
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06-23-12, 9:36 PM
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AidanAK47 said: I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Just want to add G-Senjou no Maou to this. |
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06-24-12, 2:07 AM
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gatx375 said: I'd love a Fate/Hollow Ataraxia adaptation, but I highly doubt that's ever happen. I think Ufotable (or Deen) will end up adapting Heavens Feel at some point. Imagine DEEN making Heaven's Feel, the meltdown will be delicious ;) |




