jpem said: And sure they could do that but wouldn't it be rather half assed to do it that way? From what i understand it is essentially a fandisc, might as well at least do the final main route in a Heavens Feel adaption first even if they don't bother to remake the others. Well, F/Z also requires knowledge of HF to trully appreciate it and I don't see anyone complaining about that... And anyway, it's a sequel. Sequels are not supposed to stand by themselves. When you make a sequel, the first thing you have ton say to your fans is "Take things from the start: here's the prequel... done with it? Ok, lets get started then" |
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| Surely I have to thank Deen for making me read both FSN and Umineko.But after seeing both of them I would prefer it if someone like Ufotable had done the job.And as far as I know Deen made a bad name for itself from FSN and Umineko adaptions.Higurashi and the rest I have seen were pretty good compared to Umineko and FSN. And if FSN was a bad adaption Umineko was even worse.If Shirou looked stupid with his ideals(yeah he was like that in the VN but the anime multiplied it)then Battler was the ultimate retard.In the entire show you were watching a guy trying to prove that the witch in front of him wasnt real. Beato:1+1=2 . Battler:Igiari bitch!! .Never trying to explain how the meta-world works along with other stuff ruined the anime. So I dont want a chiru anime from deen Pan151 said: You gotta admit however that the way they adapted UBW was 100% true to the way the VN reader experiences it, at least at the beginning: Skip Next Scene? >Yes Skip Next Scene? >Yes Skip Next Scene? >Yes >Talk to Sakura Skip Next Scene? >Yes Skip Next Scene? >Yes >Go to work Skip Next Scene? >Yes :D That was a good one XD |
ssjokg said: Surely I have to thank Deen for making me read both FSN and Umineko.But after seeing both of them I would prefer it if someone like Ufotable had done the job.And as far as I know Deen made a bad name for itself from FSN and Umineko adaptions.Higurashi and the rest I have seen were pretty good compared to Umineko and FSN. And if FSN was a bad adaption Umineko was even worse.If Shirou looked stupid with his ideals(yeah he was like that in the VN but the anime multiplied it)then Battler was the ultimate retard.In the entire show you were watching a guy trying to prove that the witch in front of him wasnt real. Beato:1+1=2 . Battler:Igiari bitch!! .Never trying to explain how the meta-world works along with other stuff ruined the anime. So I dont want a chiru anime from deen If you read the Visual novel you should understand that an Umineko adaptation was impossible from the get go. I say at least they tried but I am pretty sure that neither Madhouse or bones or UFOtable could pull off Umineko. I mean just imagine the budget needed for the last arc of Chiru alone... |
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AidanAK47 said: If you read the Visual novel you should understand that an Umineko adaptation was impossible from the get go. I say at least they tried but I am pretty sure that neither Madhouse or bones or UFOtable could pull off Umineko. I mean just imagine the budget needed for the last arc of Chiru alone... Yeah I know, but: I havent read Higurashi but if they could do a decent adaption of it then they chould have tried a bit harder with Umineko.Or make one season for ep 1-2 and another for 3-4.And if that worked then move on to Chiru. With uminko's bd/dvd sales I doubt we will ever see chiru anyway so no worries there... |
ssjokg said: AidanAK47 said: If you read the Visual novel you should understand that an Umineko adaptation was impossible from the get go. I say at least they tried but I am pretty sure that neither Madhouse or bones or UFOtable could pull off Umineko. I mean just imagine the budget needed for the last arc of Chiru alone... Yeah I know, but: I havent read Higurashi but if they could do a decent adaption of it then they chould have tried a bit harder with Umineko.Or make one season for ep 1-2 and another for 3-4.And if that worked then move on to Chiru. With uminko's bd/dvd sales I doubt we will ever see chiru anyway so no worries there... Come on mate, don't be unreasonable. Two arcs into a 24 episode anime? Then you got pacing issues. There is no winning scenario. Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. |
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AidanAK47 said: If you read the Visual novel you should understand that an Umineko adaptation was impossible from the get go. I say at least they tried but I am pretty sure that neither Madhouse or bones or UFOtable could pull off Umineko. Yeah, pretty much. I haven't read the first 4 episodes, but if they are anywhere near as complex as the last 4... man, I'm glad they even tried to... The whole thing is littered with countless obscure hints, and there was no way to include all the ones that were necessary for solving the mystery, because the answer arcs had not even been finished at that time. Even if they got Ryukishi himself to write the script, they'd have to make like 60 episodes to fit everything in, and then you'd forget the clues by the time you could make any use of them... The one thing they could and should have made better though is make it more obvious what the game between Beato and Battler was. Which you just couldn't get without some extensive forum search... |
Pan151Jun 10, 2012 5:49 PM
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AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: AidanAK47 said: If you read the Visual novel you should understand that an Umineko adaptation was impossible from the get go. I say at least they tried but I am pretty sure that neither Madhouse or bones or UFOtable could pull off Umineko. I mean just imagine the budget needed for the last arc of Chiru alone... Yeah I know, but: I havent read Higurashi but if they could do a decent adaption of it then they chould have tried a bit harder with Umineko.Or make one season for ep 1-2 and another for 3-4.And if that worked then move on to Chiru. With uminko's bd/dvd sales I doubt we will ever see chiru anyway so no worries there... Come on mate, don't be unreasonable. Two arcs into a 24 episode anime? Then you got pacing issues. There is no winning scenario. Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. It's the fanboy inside me that talks.If I sit down and think about it then maybe I can let it slide.And I am not a director anyway .I am talking only about how I would prefer it. |
AidanAK47 said: Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. Well, not really, they are anything BUT different. They actually have quite a bit in common, being both essentially mysteries, and even happening in the same universe (multiverse, to be exact) But their focus was different. Umineko was all about heavy mystery and riddles. Higurashi was much more about atmosphere and less about the actual mystery. One translates much better on text and the other much better on film. Apparently they tried to focus on atmosphere in Umineko as well... and it didn't work nearly as well as in Higurashi... well, at least it ended up with great atmosphere... |
Pan151Jun 10, 2012 6:10 PM
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| All I gotta say is where do I sigh the paper saying i support a heavens feel animation. But sadly through to be fair I think a Tsukihime adaption would be a better idea since it does have alot of fans and with how old it is it kinda deserves one in my eyes. Not only including a Tsukihime adaption i would think would have a higher chance to be a success. (thats just me thinking through including that im not a huge tsukihime fan to begin with) <3 heaven feel all the way |
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Pan151 said: AidanAK47 said: Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. Well, not really, they are anything BUT different. They actually have quite a bit in common, being both essentially mysteries, and even happening in the same universe (multiverse, to be exact) But their focus was different. Umineko was all about heavy mystery and riddles. Higurashi was much more about atmosphere and less about the actual mystery. One translates much better on text and the other much better on film. Apparently they tried to focus on atmosphere in Umineko as well... and it didn't work nearly as well as in Higurashi... well, at least it ended up with great atmosphere... I can't be the only that think both Higurashi & Umineko adaptions are awful right? Thess said: I'd love Hollow Ataraxia adapted because Avenger and Bazett are dynamic protagonists with a great relationship that isn't focused on romance. I doubt F/HA anime could work, for various reasons. Besides, what will they label it? F/SN sequel? lol people are gonna be confused as hell. |
Lumathy said: Pan151 said: AidanAK47 said: Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. Well, not really, they are anything BUT different. They actually have quite a bit in common, being both essentially mysteries, and even happening in the same universe (multiverse, to be exact) But their focus was different. Umineko was all about heavy mystery and riddles. Higurashi was much more about atmosphere and less about the actual mystery. One translates much better on text and the other much better on film. Apparently they tried to focus on atmosphere in Umineko as well... and it didn't work nearly as well as in Higurashi... well, at least it ended up with great atmosphere... I can't be the only that think both Higurashi & Umineko adaptions are awful right? I believe Higurashi was good at what it wanted to show.I was able to like the characters,cry for them,laugh at them.With Umineko I didnt even care after EP2. I started the novels just to see where it was going with all the Fantasy vs Mystery.Then I loved it. |
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sonicxsam said: All I gotta say is where do I sigh the paper saying i support a heavens feel animation. But sadly through to be fair I think a Tsukihime adaption would be a better idea since it does have alot of fans and with how old it is it kinda deserves one in my eyes. Not only including a Tsukihime adaption i would think would have a higher chance to be a success. (thats just me thinking through including that im not a huge tsukihime fan to begin with) <3 heaven feel all the way It's getting a VN remake so the fans are appeased. They have Mahoyo too. Thess said: I'd love Hollow Ataraxia adapted because Avenger and Bazett are dynamic protagonists with a great relationship that isn't focused on romance. Yeh...I don't think it's gonna happen... |
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BloodRequiem said: It's getting a VN remake so the fans are appeased. They have Mahoyo too. I'm sure we would get a Fate/Zero remake before we get a Tsukihime VN remake. ssjokg said: Lumathy said: Pan151 said: AidanAK47 said: Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. Well, not really, they are anything BUT different. They actually have quite a bit in common, being both essentially mysteries, and even happening in the same universe (multiverse, to be exact) But their focus was different. Umineko was all about heavy mystery and riddles. Higurashi was much more about atmosphere and less about the actual mystery. One translates much better on text and the other much better on film. Apparently they tried to focus on atmosphere in Umineko as well... and it didn't work nearly as well as in Higurashi... well, at least it ended up with great atmosphere... I can't be the only that think both Higurashi & Umineko adaptions are awful right? I believe Higurashi was good at what it wanted to show.I was able to like the characters,cry for them,laugh at them.With Umineko I didnt even care after EP2. I started the novels just to see where it was going with all the Fantasy vs Mystery.Then I loved it. really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. |
Lumathy said: BloodRequiem said: It's getting a VN remake so the fans are appeased. They have Mahoyo too. I'm sure we would get a Fate/Zero remake before we get a Tsukihime VN remake. ssjokg said: Lumathy said: Pan151 said: AidanAK47 said: Plus Higurashi and Umineko are completely different. Well, not really, they are anything BUT different. They actually have quite a bit in common, being both essentially mysteries, and even happening in the same universe (multiverse, to be exact) But their focus was different. Umineko was all about heavy mystery and riddles. Higurashi was much more about atmosphere and less about the actual mystery. One translates much better on text and the other much better on film. Apparently they tried to focus on atmosphere in Umineko as well... and it didn't work nearly as well as in Higurashi... well, at least it ended up with great atmosphere... I can't be the only that think both Higurashi & Umineko adaptions are awful right? I believe Higurashi was good at what it wanted to show.I was able to like the characters,cry for them,laugh at them.With Umineko I didnt even care after EP2. I started the novels just to see where it was going with all the Fantasy vs Mystery.Then I loved it. really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. I have yet to read Higurashi but as an anime I think it was fine.Maybe not a good adaption but as a story it was good.If I had read the VN maybe I would feel the same as you.Umineko on the other hand was bad both as an anime show and as an adaption. Yeah that animation.Well it WAS deen. |
ssjokgJun 11, 2012 10:57 AM
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Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. Pan151 said: :-/I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. |
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ssjokg said: Then,if we are talking ufotable re adapting Fate and UBW ,then let them make prologue and Fate together and for the UBW and HF start the story from Archer vs Lancer. That would work as perfect lead-in to F/ha. have the route switch be from Avenger's POV. With him and or Bazett observing one timeline then other and then third, with appropriate F/HA important flashbacks about Bazett, etc in between Frankly thats the only sensible way I see them incorporating and adapting F/HA. Pan151 said: Because if we are not talking back-to-back, we just need Deen to adapt HF and there you go, all 3 routes adapted. No thank you, I'd ratherwatch paint dry than see DEEN rape another route. Pan151 said: n of 2 routes - it was a re-adaptation of a classic, several years from the original. Not at all the same thing... Its two different interpretations of characters - the "canon" manga version and anime-original version that was animated before that. |
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Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. Pan151 said: I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. I have to say that this is a bit of stretch. Even though I love Higurashi I admit the animation was pretty bad. Still I can say it's probably the best Horror anime series ever made but that's because the horror genre of anime is seriously lacking. |
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AidanAK47 said: Pan151 said: I don't care what any of you say - both Umineko and Higurashi are still in my top 5 Anime of all time. Higurashi is to me the best Anime series ever made - by a MILE. I have to say that this is a bit of stretch. Even though I love Higurashi I admit the animation was pretty bad. Still I can say it's probably the best Horror anime series ever made but that's because the horror genre of anime is seriously lacking. Well, no other anime up to this day has ever given me the same combination of goosebumps and tears that Higurashi did - I've already seen 140+ of these damn things, and the only thing that comes even remotely close to it is PMMM, and maybe Elfen Lied in the tears department... Yah, the animation was indeed pretty bad. However, I do not consider animation quality to be of any significant importance in this particular series, just like I do not consider plot quality to be of any significant importance in something like, say, Bakemonogatari. It just doesn't really matter for what the series is trying to do... |
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AidanAK47 said: Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. I don't focus on negative aspects while watching anime but the negative aspects in some cases are too transparent to not be noticed. Although the fact that I already got spoiled must be a big reason too. |
Lumathy said: AidanAK47 said: Leon-Gun said: Lumathy said: I think this is what you did wrong. The Adaptation is weaker than the Novel by a lot, there's no one that can deny it. But you can't completely dismiss the adaptation, especially the second season (which added fixes proposed by Ryukishi07 himself). The way Rika was protrayed in the second season was pretty spot on, aside from the little mess up at not separating Real!Rika from Witch!Rika (or should we call her GameWorld!Rika).really? I watched Higurashi after reading the Vn and I felt like the anime was just downright awful, the ugly design, the cheap animation, TONS of stuff got left out... It's like watching some recap montage where they just show random people getting killed by loli and as much blood as possible. Also, you seriously hate Higurashi's cheap animation when you are praising the game? The CHeap animation is the one thing a player of the doujins should not bash on considering how godawfull the doujins are in the visual department. You have to patch the game with improved visuals from a console port just to make it visually pleasing. I'd say DEEN gets a free pass on this department, considering they at least have the correct number of fingers and more or less anatomically correct bodies. What he said. Plus I think knowing the mysteries answers really hampers your enjoyment of it. Maybe the real reason you found it so bad was that you didn't get sucked into the atmosphere because you knew the reason behind everything so you just focused on the negative aspects. Cause I got to tell you that I am trying to read the novel and finding myself bored. Plus like he said that art is a pretty big hurdle to cross. I don't focus on negative aspects while watching anime but the negative aspects in some cases are too transparent to not be noticed. Although the fact that I already got spoiled must be a big reason too. Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. |
ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. |
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AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. |
ssjokgJun 13, 2012 11:20 AM
ssjokg said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever that started. If you love a good mind screw, then Chaos;Head is the way to go. Some of the ideas, like the delusion system are pretty cool. C;H isn't a favorite of mine by any means, but it was certainly worth checking out. I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. |
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AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. |
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Fai said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. ...no? Why disagree if you agree with me? The VN is better than the anime. I am not debating that point. But either way both end up terrible. insan3soldiern said: I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. I think with some clever directing that twist could be pulled off. Wouldn't take too much effort. It's not like Ever17's twist which is straight out impossible to pull off in any other format. ssjokg said: Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. I admit the delusion system is interesting but I honestly think you would be better off not wasting your time on it. I finished Kara no Shoujo myself. I actually figured out the culprit before it was revealed. Was feeling pretty smug about it too. Though I can say the mystery is a little more multi layered than you think. |
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AidanAK47 said: Fai said: AidanAK47 said: ssjokg said: Remembering how hard it was for me to enjoy Fate route and Umineko EP1 since I watched the adaption first,I think that plays a big role.I am still wondering how I am going to read Chaos;head. If you want my advice I say don't read it. The start of chaos head is better than the anime adaptation but that only makes the disappointment of the rest of it even worse. Two thirds of chaos head is just pure terrible. Sorry but no. Chaos head >>>>>>>>>>>> Its anime abomination version. Its one of better mindscrew vns. ...no? Why disagree if you agree with me? The VN is better than the anime. I am not debating that point. But either way both end up terrible. insan3soldiern said: I agree that Sharin no Kuni is excellent, though. I can understand why it never got an anime adaptation, given the nature of it's twist. I think with some clever directing that twist could be pulled off. Wouldn't take too much effort. It's not like Ever17's twist which is straight out impossible to pull off in any other format. ssjokg said: Well people say that is way better than the anime.Which is what we say for FSN too.So I will give it a chance.In the anime I really liked the start but I think that they skipped a lot when the whole illusion-whatever started. I have already installed Sharin no Kuni.I was reading Kara no Shoujo but I was spoiled the name of the culprit while looking for a voice patch.Now I only remember the first letter of his name so maybe next year I will read it again.Except one victim I dont evenremember other names.Scumbag brain.I am still reading Little Busters,Saya no Uta(would have finished it if I was living alone)and some Tsukihime fan disks so it will take a while until I start anything else. I admit the delusion system is interesting but I honestly think you would be better off not wasting your time on it. I finished Kara no Shoujo myself. I actually figured out the culprit before it was revealed. Was feeling pretty smug about it too. Though I can say the mystery is a little more multi layered than you think. Well I was at the part where |
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| I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. |
Code_Alchemy said: I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. which would please only some of the VN fans.Better finish at least the 3rd route and then move to FHA.FZ should just end where the LN ends there is nothing more.Unless you want to see Shirou's projection training,more Sakura abuse and Rin training.No thanks.As for the Heroic Spirits backstory thats in the hands of Typemoon not Ufotable. |
ssjokg said: Pretty much, the ten years between F/Z and F/SN are full of...Code_Alchemy said: I'd rather them do something else. F/SN is dead to me anime wise.I would rather them build on the F/Zero. There's so many things they could do. There's the story for Saber, Gilgamesh , Archer, that could be adapted into an anime. That alone could be much more interesting. or they could do what someone suggested and do Hollow Ataraxia. which would please only some of the VN fans.Better finish at least the 3rd route and then move to FHA.FZ should just end where the LN ends there is nothing more.Unless you want to see Shirou's projection training,more Sakura abuse and Rin training.No thanks.As for the Heroic Spirits backstory thats in the hands of Typemoon not Ufotable. Sounds like a party, oh let's not forget: The Servant's backstory, if at all shown in more complete forms would be in OVA's/Specials because most of them were released in extra material. For example, a lot of clarification on Saber's backstory, like how Mordred was born even though Saber and Morgana are both female, is completely exclusive to Character Material books. |
Leon-GunJun 15, 2012 9:43 AM
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| I'd love a Fate/Hollow Ataraxia adaptation, but I highly doubt that's ever happen. I think Ufotable (or Deen) will end up adapting Heavens Feel at some point. |
AidanAK47 said: I recommend (If you haven't read it already) Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. Cause it's a sin this Visual novel hasn't got a anime adaptation yet. Just want to add G-Senjou no Maou to this. |
gatx375 said: I'd love a Fate/Hollow Ataraxia adaptation, but I highly doubt that's ever happen. I think Ufotable (or Deen) will end up adapting Heavens Feel at some point. Imagine DEEN making Heaven's Feel, the meltdown will be delicious ;) |
| Although I haven't read the VN, I'm totally in for a remake of F/SN. If there's any other route that adapts the future of this show better than the F/SN we already have, I'd take it any day. I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. Despite Taiga being okay, I'd rather not have her in the show, or maybe I'd rather have a mature version of her than the loud one. As for Tsukihime, I don't even know how anyone stood it. I couldn't stand the first episode. The animation and direction is horrible. I don't know the story due to my inability to watch it, but if it is good, I hope that gets an adaptation too. |
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Kundalini said: I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. I agree. I thought about this myself, and how much people would look forward to watching F/SN after F/Z but F/SN's story isn't as dynamic as F/Z's and Shiro sucks with his infatuation with Saber in the process. So yeah, would it make the fight scenes more interesting? Hell yeah. but thats it. and I don't think I would personally re-watch F/SN myself. |
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| Heavens feel is the only route that could work in my opinion. As much as I would like to see UBW done by ufotable, I just don't think that route is really dark and edgy like HF is. Normal route is average, so nothing lost by not doing that one. UBW is my favorite route, but if Ufotable were to gain permission to do a route out of FSN VN, I'd hope it to be HF, simply because it's the darkest one, perfect successor to FZ and the one most suitable for ufotable if one is to judge based on their other works... antonn said: Just want to add G-Senjou no Maou to this. Sigh, my hopes for this will never end. Though they'd have to cut many corners to fit whole story into 24 episodes. Lots of things happen in G-senjou, not all can be included. And problem with that is, 90% of things that happen there were of some importance to main story. I fear lot would be lost, but you never know. |
nina4lifeJun 24, 2012 6:46 AM
Leon-Gun said: Hyphotetically speaking and if Type-Moon could actually recover F/SN back from DEEN in some form, I think the route that would most fit both as a sequel to F/Z and judging from ufotable's style when adapting Type-Moon material (like KnK) would obviously be Heaven's Feel. It keeps the dark vibe of F/Z and completely ditches the superficial "everyone can be saved" mantra Fate and UBW have. Lumathy said: Wrong, there was a "Fate" adaptation and an "Unlimited Blade Works" adaptation. There's no Heaven's Feel adaptation. The F/SN anime didn't add anything from Heaven's Feel, they didn't even properly reveal Sakura's secret...There was already a F/SN adaption (not that old), it's not that necessary really. oh THAT secret... I thought you meant one of these ones: |
Kundalini said: Although I haven't read the VN, I'm totally in for a remake of F/SN. If there's any other route that adapts the future of this show better than the F/SN we already have, I'd take it any day. I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. Despite Taiga being okay, I'd rather not have her in the show, or maybe I'd rather have a mature version of her than the loud one. As for Tsukihime, I don't even know how anyone stood it. I couldn't stand the first episode. The animation and direction is horrible. I don't know the story due to my inability to watch it, but if it is good, I hope that gets an adaptation too. The first few eps of it were meh but it got a bit better later on. Though I haven't read the vn yet (on my list of things to do) it was apparently the most atrocious adaptation to date (vn wise). I only watched it so I could get a good idea about what 50% of the humour in Carnival Phantasm was. |
RevanFanatic said: oh THAT secret... I thought you meant one of these ones: What?Fuck Realta Nua RevanFanatic said: Someone will have a visit from the Shadow. |
| I would absolutely love a HF adaption by Ufotable. It would totally be a dream come true. And on a side-note, I would love to see Umineko Chiru animated by a decent studio as well. Maybe it would be impossible to pull off, and I'm just dreaming like ssjokg, but no matter whenever the random viewers would understand anything or not, I would personally just love to see certain scenes animated for the heck of it and the sheer epicness. RevanFanatic said: oh THAT secret... I thought you meant one of these ones: RevanFanatic said: Though I haven't read the vn yet (on my list of things to do) it was apparently the most atrocious adaptation to date (vn wise). ...you sure know a lot about Sakura, considering you haven't read the VN yet. Maybe you should read HF first and THEN make comments about Sakura rather than the other way around. *cough* =P |
RevanFanatic said: Kundalini said: Although I haven't read the VN, I'm totally in for a remake of F/SN. If there's any other route that adapts the future of this show better than the F/SN we already have, I'd take it any day. I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. Despite Taiga being okay, I'd rather not have her in the show, or maybe I'd rather have a mature version of her than the loud one. As for Tsukihime, I don't even know how anyone stood it. I couldn't stand the first episode. The animation and direction is horrible. I don't know the story due to my inability to watch it, but if it is good, I hope that gets an adaptation too. The first few eps of it were meh but it got a bit better later on. Though I haven't read the vn yet (on my list of things to do) it was apparently the most atrocious adaptation to date (vn wise). I only watched it so I could get a good idea about what 50% of the humour in Carnival Phantasm was. >50% of humor in Carnival Phantasm >WATCHING F/SN >not playing Tsukihime and Melty Blood You are getting at most 15% |
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BloodRequiem said: RevanFanatic said: Kundalini said: Although I haven't read the VN, I'm totally in for a remake of F/SN. If there's any other route that adapts the future of this show better than the F/SN we already have, I'd take it any day. I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. Despite Taiga being okay, I'd rather not have her in the show, or maybe I'd rather have a mature version of her than the loud one. As for Tsukihime, I don't even know how anyone stood it. I couldn't stand the first episode. The animation and direction is horrible. I don't know the story due to my inability to watch it, but if it is good, I hope that gets an adaptation too. The first few eps of it were meh but it got a bit better later on. Though I haven't read the vn yet (on my list of things to do) it was apparently the most atrocious adaptation to date (vn wise). I only watched it so I could get a good idea about what 50% of the humour in Carnival Phantasm was. >50% of humor in Carnival Phantasm >WATCHING F/SN >not playing Tsukihime and Melty Blood You are getting at most 15% Dont forget FHA.All the FSN parts in CP are like something that could happen in Ataraxia. |
ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: RevanFanatic said: Kundalini said: Although I haven't read the VN, I'm totally in for a remake of F/SN. If there's any other route that adapts the future of this show better than the F/SN we already have, I'd take it any day. I mean, this series being so mature, I really don't want it to be downsized by an immature ending like the current F/SN. Despite Taiga being okay, I'd rather not have her in the show, or maybe I'd rather have a mature version of her than the loud one. As for Tsukihime, I don't even know how anyone stood it. I couldn't stand the first episode. The animation and direction is horrible. I don't know the story due to my inability to watch it, but if it is good, I hope that gets an adaptation too. The first few eps of it were meh but it got a bit better later on. Though I haven't read the vn yet (on my list of things to do) it was apparently the most atrocious adaptation to date (vn wise). I only watched it so I could get a good idea about what 50% of the humour in Carnival Phantasm was. >50% of humor in Carnival Phantasm >WATCHING F/SN >not playing Tsukihime and Melty Blood You are getting at most 15% Dont forget FHA.All the FSN parts in CP are like something that could happen in Ataraxia. Yes. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
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