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I'm surprised child pornography haven't been discussed to death on MAL yet.

I wish I could think of something interesting to make a thread about, but I can't.

Of course I would admit to that on the internet, geez it's a joke. People have told me I'd make a good kindergarten caretaker but I hate the little shits.


I didn't explain myself well, I was talking about criminalizing the viewers, sites would still get busted as in this case there's no way sentient consent was given to those pics.

That's because it usually derails into a lolicon = pedophile discussion.

I have nothing to say actually on subject. People were caught doing something illegal. Gotta be more careful next time.

My issue is the definition of child pornography. Nowadays, you can draw stick figures, and describe them as naked children, and that's considered child porn. :rolleyes: Heck, we have kids being arrested and convicted as sex offenders because they take naked pictures of themselves, thus they are guilty of possession of child porn. Really? Stick figures != child porn. Nudity != child porn. These pursue of re-shaping the actual definition of porn is dangerous, and distract everybody from the real pedophiles hiding in high places.

If those people arrested are real pedophiles, then good. But we have to be careful, as to not cloud our judgement and let the real pedophiles running free.

I know people don't tread carefully on this topic (myself included), but you should still choose a word other than pedophile to refer to criminals. Pedophile means you are sexually attracted to children (something that you're arguably born with), it does not mean you possess child porn or intend to molest a child, or anything else. "Pedophiles running free" is like saying "gay people running free" or "straight people running free", it's just a sexual preference.

I agree with your notion, but in most countries, possessing whatever they defined as child "porn" will garner you that label, and fact is it's considered illegal (criminalized), thus my assumption is towards the criminal act itself, not the preference.

I don't know how to feel about pedophiles. I want to be compassionate, because no one is perfect and it's a sexual deviation that needs to be treated. But at the same time, it's disgusting to think about what some people do. It's one thing to think about it, but to go out and actually do it is a whole other thing.

I think it just depends on the situation.

I think pedophiles are sick to be honest :/
So to be honest i'm glad they got this guy.
but in a way it's the way there born so i don't know how to exactly feel.

This operation uncovered a dangerous and depraved group of criminals who were devoted to trading sexually explicit images of children under the age of five.

Seriously? That's far worse than I expected. Thank god they were caught and hopefully those children can recover over time.

I'd rather have pedophiles fappin to pictures than doing the actual deed.

Pedophiles may or may not act on their sexual urges. In fact, if a pedophile remains a virgin and a good person all of his life, then there is really no difference between him and your average Joe. Child pornography, on the other hand, is exploiting the innocence of children for sexual and monetary purposes. There is no excuse for the latter.

What if the pedophile isn't a virgin?




I'm indifferent about pedophiles until they start molesting children.

That isn't really a fair thing to say. It's sort of like saying "I'm indifferent about homosexuals until they start molesting men/women/children/me." It's stating the obvious. I'm indifferent to [x group] until they start [committing y deplorable act].

Criminalizing people for simply downloading images of what they're attracted to is beyond retarded. Yes, child pornography is disgusting and should be against the law no matter in what form, but these people should be taken in for psychiatric treatment instead of having their life irreversibly ruined over something that they can't help and likely never intended any harm to others with. The government has this stupid and ignorant belief that all pedophiles are likely to molest real children when that's been shown in countless studies to only be a very, very minor percentage. And especially when stuff like 2D lolicon, goddamn drawings, is enough to land you in jail, it makes you wonder just what the fuck is going on with our society.

If you hate on somebody for simply being a pedophile then you need to reevaluate and educate yourself. Child molesters are the problem, not pedophiles. People don't choose what they are attracted to.

Unfortunately, being "taken in for psychiatric treatment" would pretty much ruin their lives in much the same way. Even if they were "cured," -- which, judging by the success rate of people who seek a "cure" for their homosexuality, seems extremely unlikely -- no one would ever hire them for a job. The majority of people, if they found out that someone had been institutionalized to be "cured" of his or her pedophilia, would would treat that person as the most absolute of pariahs, even if the treatment was successful.

Yeah, that's also a valid point so it makes deciding what would be best a lot more difficult. But even if they're unable to find a job due to their mental treatment, it's much better to be living a normal but poor lifestyle than to be imprisoned for god knows how many years and then have your life screwed for after release as well. It's unfair because these people aren't criminals and most likely would never do anything to harm another person, so seeing how people make blanket statements for all pedophiles and treat each one as the devil is a bit sickening.

^ This

What's even more fucked up is that the age of consent is 16 or lower in some countries, but the same countries define people under the age of 18 as "children". Therefore one can be labeled as a pedophile if they have pictures or film of someone they're allowed to have intercourse with.

Close, but not quite.

A homosexual can get consent, a pedophile cannot.

I don't know. Pedophiles can't help it. Neither homosexuals.

But is it normal? Imagine if all of us were homosexual... How could we reproduce? I mean we would hate ourselves for doing such an act if we'd force ourselves on it. Children cannot reproduce either.

In my opinion this is the reason why there is discrimination versus anything that isn't straight/certain age/living/same species/etc. It's just NOT normal if we're made this way. It's psychological, it's instinct, after all we're mammals and let's say we're animals too.

I can't explain this properly, I don't mind homosexuals neither pedophiles. But don't ever try to tell me it's normal... It's obvious it's not. But as long as they don't harm other people OR push ideas onto people it's okay.