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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
409 88.34%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
31 6.70%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
13 2.81%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
2 0.43%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
8 1.73%
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06-09-12, 6:21 PM

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Veldril said:
Not in VN, and anime kinda screw up that up. Gil doesn't need Endiku to defeat Lancer.


Lancer lasted 12 hours fighting Gilgamesh. Read character material III. His battle continuation gave him the edge. I wouldn't be surprised if Gil had to Enkidu'ed him so he finally remained in one place once he took the battle seriously. Lancer's the fastest Servant in FSN, he also has skills such as defense against arrows and his disengage ones would make his gate of babylon mostly useless.

On the other hand, he was weighted down by two command spells placed by Kotomine so he wouldn't be serious in battles.

Cuchulainn isn't just any spirit. He's the most famous Irish hero and a demigod himself. He's pretty ideal Servant for most cases (temper wise too: friendly, honorable but not chivalrously stupid, etc) if wasn't for his luck. Good almost cost-free Noble Phantasm, a pack of tricks that allow him to survive (also magic), good stats (aside of luck), etc.

TheRealBoyd said:
While F/SN DOES have the Rin thing so I can't say anything about that, Saber only married Gwen to keep up the facade of being a man. Gwen being unhappy with that led to...well, you know.


I know, but it still doesn't take away that Saber is bisexual. She would have fallen for Shirou even if he was a girl. Gender had nothing to do with their relationship. Specially, if we take into light Gen's and Nasu's claims of her being a genderqueer. Takeuchi seems the only one adamant about 'moe girl' Saber.

Linkark07 said:
I thought Sakura was Shirousexual.


Sakura has some moments with Rin as Dark Sakura. She only loves Shirou romantically, but it doesn't mean she doesn't find some women hot.
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06-09-12, 6:33 PM

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RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(
 
06-09-12, 6:35 PM

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katsu044 said:
RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
 
06-09-12, 6:54 PM

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Thess said:
katsu044 said:
RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
True, Team Rider had a happy end overall.

BTW, since you were discussing Cuchulainn earlier, I can't help but think Kirei has something against Servants not named Gilgamesh. xD Every spirit he commanded was brutally used as a pawn (be it thrown as expendable pawns or forced to not give it their all when fighting). I think Nasu has gone on record saying Lancer would have been unstoppable if the Holy Grail Wars were in Europe, especially in Ireland. Then again, He's the song of a god, so that's to be expected.
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06-09-12, 6:57 PM

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Last two episodes are gonna be epic!! Can't wait, I started to tear up when Rider was running at Gil like a boss.
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06-09-12, 6:59 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
Thess said:
katsu044 said:
RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
True, Team Rider had a happy end overall.

BTW, since you were discussing Cuchulainn earlier, I can't help but think Kirei has something against Servants not named Gilgamesh. xD Every spirit he commanded was brutally used as a pawn (be it thrown as expendable pawns or forced to not give it their all when fighting). I think Nasu has gone on record saying Lancer would have been unstoppable if the Holy Grail Wars were in Europe, especially in Ireland. Then again, He's the song of a god, so that's to be expected.


dont forget Bazett as his Master
 
06-09-12, 7:12 PM

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I think it's just that CuChuliann would be stronger in Ireland and possibly get a chariot and castle and such (Hercules was the one Nasu said would be better in all of Europe), not unstoppable. Though given who he is, close enough for most foes.

CuChuliann/Bazett would basically steamroll F/SN, yeah.

And to be fair to Kirei, he didn't give a shit about the war while he still had Assassin, and he already had Gilgamesh when he got Lancer.
 
06-09-12, 7:21 PM

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Can't... express... myself... Nerdgasm...

MOTHER!#$ING GILGAMESH, MY MAN! I'm going to miss Rider though! He was such a great character together with Waver; and Waver with his great character development.

...AND THE ANIMATION! WOW!
 
06-09-12, 7:57 PM

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Pretty stupid how Overpowered Archer seems.
There was no fight at all against Rider and Archer.
Nothing really happened between Saber and Lancelot.
It was all talk and barely any action.
1/5
 
06-09-12, 8:06 PM

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that summoning of Ea was aweeeeesome :D

Enuma Elish planet destroyer X_X

rip rider D:

op archer class is op x_x

5/5
 
06-09-12, 8:58 PM

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holy shit, this was fantastic
this episode was so epic, and for far the best episode of this anime
now remains only 2 episodes.
 
06-09-12, 9:01 PM

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ssjokg said:
Leon-Gun said:
Thess said:
katsu044 said:
RIP rider you died like a real king! i truly thought for a moment he would stand a chance and at least land a hit on him though :(


He was going to kill him if he struck. Gil had to stop him. Either way, he got his real wish. His Oceanus, so he didn't need to win the Grail.
True, Team Rider had a happy end overall.

BTW, since you were discussing Cuchulainn earlier, I can't help but think Kirei has something against Servants not named Gilgamesh. xD Every spirit he commanded was brutally used as a pawn (be it thrown as expendable pawns or forced to not give it their all when fighting). I think Nasu has gone on record saying Lancer would have been unstoppable if the Holy Grail Wars were in Europe, especially in Ireland. Then again, He's the song of a god, so that's to be expected.


dont forget Bazett as his Master


Bazett as master would pretty much make almost any servant win.
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06-09-12, 9:21 PM

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WOW.

I never expected Rider's conclusion to be that perfect. His sprint across the bridge, towards the horizon of victory, will stick with me as one of the most draw dropping scenes in this show.

As a huge Saber fan, Rider you have earned a high spot.

Gilgamesh is still the utopia of bullshit. I don't think the man knows how to fight. Iskander said it perfectly that he pulls one oddity after another.
 
06-09-12, 9:30 PM

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So much butthurt in this thread.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
06-09-12, 10:02 PM

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Alexander the Great - estimated time of death (historical): 10/11 June 323 BC.

FVCK.
 
06-09-12, 10:05 PM

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Definitely my favorite episode so far in the series.

I have a lot of respect for Gil and Rider they are without a doubt my 2 favorites in Fate/Zero. I like how they both had respect for each other. I feel bad for Alexander but sadly his opponent was Gilgamesh. Thankfully Gilgamesh let Waver live.

Enuma ELISH! Was fucking amazing. Thanks UFO for animating it properly.

5/5
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All the evils in the world? Bring at least three times as much if you wish to spoil me! - Gilgamesh

 
06-09-12, 10:30 PM

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Alexander the Great - estimated time of death (historical): 10/11 June 323 BC.

FVCK.


Talk about coincidences....

 
06-09-12, 10:31 PM

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Rider is out and Berserker is Sir Lancelot from the Round Table, didn't see that one coming.
Just 2 episodes left..

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06-09-12, 10:36 PM

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i cried *manly tears* , damn, best episode ever, damn >.<
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06-09-12, 10:43 PM

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Of course it's Lancelot, as so unceremoniously spoiled by the idiots posting in first season threads. But damn, that Ea is so much more fucking badass here.
 
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