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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
470 89.02%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
34 6.44%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
13 2.46%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
2 0.38%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
9 1.70%
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06-09-12, 8:23 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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HOLY SHIT at the following,

This is truly the best shit ever to happen for me! Berserker's TRUE FORM FINALLY! I can only say I am still shaken at its presentation, Berserker's emotional output there and most of all Saber's reactions to it. WOW! That's the best and shortest to describe it now due to total OVER 9000 satisfaction and excitement!

Indeed as the time passes midnight. Today the 10th is indeed Alexander's death and I have to say Archer was plain LAME AND CHEAP! That sword is like cheesy magical wand to swing around and poof! All of Alexander's army is gone! Just like that! SOOOOOOOO CHEEEEEESYYYYYY! Did not like it at all.

To further argue this I would have to say the Alexander's powers comes much more Noble in gathering his army VS Archer's powers come from stolen treasures that have Nobility for they were never really fashioned by Gilgamesh. Rather stolen and no stealing in true sense is anything Noble even in taking it from defeated enemies. Alexander in fact had some Noble ways of paying respect to his men that have died upon their burial. Gilgamesh would merely spit and insult his defeated opponents. Well IMO that is. Hence a small upstanding I have against Gilgamesh. Moreover I am very CON for Gilgamesh and in fact wished Alexander won over him.

About Berserker's true form, still fresh and excited over it. There is much to compliment the setup and going about of how gloriously it was handled. First of all one does not need to go further than the spoiler
to see how nicely it was set-out. Saber’s past in ROUND TABLE! That was so gloriously well done despite being short and the angles might have been better. It truly showed of Lancelot’s emotional state during that time. Sad, angry and desperate in the current situation he is in. Berserker’s face was done very well there and the atmosphere with the BGM marvelously intermingled together. Moreover Berserker’s appearances in the spoiler
truly showed his hideous infernal RAGE! Such rage! Truly a most exciting part as much as Alexander was in his fighting with Archer.

About Kariya’s illusions, I find them rather creepy in the spoiler
I wonder how insane it was for him? It looked rather horrifying of his suffering more than before due to the atmosphere. Most likely those filthy worms. I pretty much understand now of Zouten's saying “First Worm to have taken Sakura’s innocence” meaning exactly. It’s really disgusting to think of it plain and simple. However IT is most likely responsible for his illusions there. Being the most powerful of worms within him. Less I am wrong on this cause. That being said, Kariya’s suffering was shown most well and it still rings creepy within me with perhaps some deep pity for him since last time with the Aoi incident.

About the death of Alexander, a true pity in the spoiler
such death to fallen upon OUR DEAR RIDER! Such a shame that he did not splice open Gilgamesh in the following,

DAMN IT! TT_TT You got my TEARS Rider! I respected you! TBH I always liked Alexander for his ways and conquering. Perhaps it was brutal and truly ruthless but deep down Alexander was not that bad. It was misconception or exaggeration to made him out to be like that. Mainly due to most testimonies being vexed upon his fights and conquests only. Very little was made out of his private life and I mentioned that in episodes before. However once you get to know Alexander and join his cause he is cool. Go against him and his ambitions and he is mean to you. His mentality was always you are with him/his ideals or you are against him. Giving him bad impression was always the worst.

After having a talk with my father, I got reminded and refreshed of the "True Accomplishments" of Alexander the Great! I will point them out:

-Made a multicultural Empire and instaured multiculturalism across the Globe. (You can see that in his army.)

-Was promoted to Pharaoh by Egyptians despite them not being obliged to do so. A great Honour this was indeed for him.

-With Alexander YOU ARE ALL EQUAL! So the saying goes.

-Alexander never assigned anyone to succeed him but instead built Alexandria that was for trade originally only to become the world's greatest library.

-GREAT NEWS! Alexander's Tomb is found to be rumoured in Egypt and so is Cleopatra one. Point being it's very close to find out of his Tomb in Egypt. Searches are being done, however the confirmation of his last remaining place is found it.

-Alexander started having bad luck when his beloved Horse died. Hence why they made the chariot die instead. If they Horse died, Alexander would not even want to fight IMO.

Ah! So many things to say of the real Alexander that were somewhat captured within him in this series. I will leave it at that for some final thoughts of Alexander The Great! HE WAS ADMIRABLE!

About thee end, I am seriously wondering WTF is up with Irisviel and Kiritsugu in the spoiler
it’s rather worrisome and Kiritsugu’s face looks rather very serious to say the least.

Finally 3 Cheers for the Berserker parts! Best stuff of the episode really. Might edit later.

PS: Right now Berserker upgraded this from 9 to officially 10. I was thinking it deserved after this episode and last one it's final 10 earning. Let's hope it keeps it there for me.
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06-09-12, 8:25 AM
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Weaver pair became from funny pair to touching pair all of the sudden! (tears) NO!!! Rider!!

So those two main opponents (Kiritugu and priest guy) are fighting for final battle?
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06-09-12, 8:44 AM

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Let the smackdown begin and this was an incredible episode of non stop action.





Berserker's true form and name:





Simply amazing. This episode is so far my favorite of the part 2 of this season. Got a lot of respect for both Archer and Rider this episode for the show they've put on. Next time, I wonder if Saber will deliver the smackdown against Berserker.
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06-09-12, 8:46 AM

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I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
 
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06-09-12, 8:53 AM

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I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?

I am butthurt that Rider died!!! Even if I knew it was coming. But I'm gonna give this a 5/5. The 1/5 is probably from some Type-moon hater.
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06-09-12, 9:08 AM

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Well we all knew that Rider's gonna end up so, but I expected him at least to make a scratch on that "all mighty" Gilgamesh. Why the hell couldn't he just throw the sword towards that blondie's neck.

The preview is just awesome but I am not sure how they are going to conclude everything in 48 minutes (1 episode with Kiritsugu mindufcking himself as well as Kirei and discussion discussions, Saber vs Lancer&Gil, Ilya, Kiritsugu vs Kirei fight, don't forget about Karyia and then we got the epilogue/conclusion that should be at least 10 minutes - some shit about Saber, some shit about Shirou, some shit about Ilya, some shit about Rin and so on).

Anyway that aside - this episode was of a very high quality, 5/5.
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06-09-12, 9:11 AM

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Epic episode, this is what Fate/Zero should have been all along glorious visuals and stunning essentially non-stop action.

But screw the anime again I found myself
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stAtic91 said:
I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
I don't know about that but I am butthurt that Rider lost indeed. Hence my notation of taking Archer's sword for Magical Girl Wand to magically swung open a Deus Ex machina portal of disruption to win easily.

Ridiculous! Archer is OVER POWERED! Plain and simple.

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06-09-12, 9:14 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
stAtic91 said:
I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
I don't know about that but I am butthurt that Rider lost indeed. Hence my notation of taking Archer's sword for Magical Girl Wand to magically swung open a Deus Ex machina portal of disruption to win easily.

Ridiculous! Archer is OVER POWERED! Plain and simple.


He's always been OP though. Even in F/SN.
 
06-09-12, 9:17 AM

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Epic episode, this is what Fate/Zero should have been all along glorious visuals and stunning essentially non-stop action.


According to your list, one of your favorite animes is Evangelion, otherwise known as the Super Robot anime that isn't focused on the fights. I'm genuinely curious about how that works.
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KyouEri said:
Yumekichi11 said:
stAtic91 said:
I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
I don't know about that but I am butthurt that Rider lost indeed. Hence my notation of taking Archer's sword for Magical Girl Wand to magically swung open a Deus Ex machina portal of disruption to win easily.

Ridiculous! Archer is OVER POWERED! Plain and simple.


He's always been OP though. Even in F/SN.
Well there goes one factor for hating him for me that is. The rest attributes to F/SN and UBW parts and what he did in them.

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06-09-12, 9:18 AM

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Gilgamesh mentioning Enkidu as his only comrade before the fight started. T_T

Wow the whole animation of Ionian Hetairoi falling apart was breathtaking. (Definitely never imagined it like that when I read the novel lol) Iskander's final charge was glorious as well.

Gilgamesh bringing out Ea was freaking amazing as well...

Finally! How I've waited to see delicious Arturia despair over one of her own knights trying to kill her!

Kiritsugu vs Kirei next week at last.

Just damn this episode...
 
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Yumekichi11 said:
stAtic91 said:
I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
I don't know about that but I am butthurt that Rider lost indeed. Hence my notation of taking Archer's sword for Magical Girl Wand to magically swung open a Deus Ex machina portal of disruption to win easily.

Ridiculous! Archer is OVER POWERED! Plain and simple.


You should notice that Archer used EA& chain& Gate of Babylon together to bring Rider down. If one is missing or Rider's chariot is available, no one can tell who is the winner at last.
PS: Seems next ep will show the conversation between Kiritsugu and Avenger? Let's see how the work will be done...
 
06-09-12, 9:24 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
stAtic91 said:
I'm guessing the person who rated this a 1/5 is butthurt that Rider died?
I don't know about that but I am butthurt that Rider lost indeed. Hence my notation of taking Archer's sword for Magical Girl Wand to magically swung open a Deus Ex machina portal of disruption to win easily.

Ridiculous! Archer is OVER POWERED! Plain and simple.

Gil only loses to PIS and CIS..... every single time.
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06-09-12, 9:34 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:

To further argue this I would have to say the Alexander's powers comes much more Noble in gathering his army VS Archer's powers come from stolen treasures that have Nobility for they were never really fashioned by Gilgamesh. Rather stolen and no stealing in true sense is anything Noble even in taking it from defeated enemies. Alexander in fact had some Noble ways of paying respect to his men that have died upon their burial. Gilgamesh would merely spit and insult his defeated opponents. Well IMO that is. Hence a small upstanding I have against Gilgamesh. Moreover I am very CON for Gilgamesh and in fact wished Alexander won over him.


Gil's treasures are his NP that's the whole point.It's his accomplishment as the oldest king(in FSN,FZ that is).And to be more accurate most of the NP we see other Heroic Spirits carry come from Gil's Vault or were made according to the legends of the weapons Gil has( like Excalibur).So it would be more accurate to say that his weapons were stolen not the other way around.Then again only with Enkidu and Ea he still is way more powerful than other servants.GoB is just to show off his power as the King.
 
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First time ever that I saw the key-shaped sword that is GoB. It's been mentioned in the VN stats and in the novel stats about it's true form but I don't think I've ever seen Gil take it out.
The Ea vs IH part was pretty awesome but I kinda expected more chaos when the RM was collapsing.
The death charge was pretty epic though. All the way to Enkidu popping out. Goodbye Rider.
And finally Lancelot is revealed. Saber's face is full of despair but not very despaired that she's suppose to be unable to fight back. Oh well
Amazing ep of F/Z overall.
Next episode should be the thing I've been waiting for. Kirei vs Kiritsugu. Come on we need the Emiya theme in this part.
And it looks like they'll be able to fit it all. Last episode should contain the aftermath of the war plus the epilogue. Should be tight but it will fit, hopefully.
 
06-09-12, 9:56 AM

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Rider never got a chance to play video games with Waver...Isn't is sad?
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Staff list for episodes 24 and 25:
#24 *
Episode Director: Ei Aoki, Kei Tsunematsu
Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Atsushi Ikariya, Tomonori Sudo, Keita Shimizu, Shunya Kikuchi

#25 * Final
Episode Director/Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Tomonori Sudo

4 AD's for Episode 24 = double episode?
 
06-09-12, 10:00 AM

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Zey said:
Staff list for episodes 24 and 25:
#24 *
Episode Director: Ei Aoki, Kei Tsunematsu
Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Atsushi Ikariya, Tomonori Sudo, Keita Shimizu, Shunya Kikuchi

#25 * Final
Episode Director/Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Tomonori Sudo

4 AD's for Episode 24 = double episode?

Maybe, according to the preview, ep 24 will have

If so, there must be at least 48 min, or I'll send UFO a pie stuffed with sh*t.
 
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Goddamn only 2 more episodes :(
 
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