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the mian isuues i have are not the edits but time stuff has to be shown to be Shown unedited its on at Otaku o Clock hours when most of them show would have been prime time shows here and you wonder why animeis Niche in the US[ before you say its no its niche i would not call a 200 billion yen a bisuness niche]

its the fault of the liencors that anime is niche

I have no problem with it. Do you know why I have no problem with it?Its because everyone of these kids who watch Pokemon, Dragonball, Yugioh, and other anime shows edited for American children will become teenagers and adults who may potentially become avid anime watchers. This means more demand for anime in America. More demand for anime in America means more licensed anime.More licensed anime means more dubs for sale in America and more anime on American TV.I bet if you ask a majority of anime fans in their late teens and twenties what was their first anime it will be one of these censored shows they watched as kids. It is due to their love of these shows why they became avid anime watchers.


If you have the fact that these anime shows are censored then start petitions and beg and plead with the licensing companies to release uncensored versions or just watch the subbed version.

Although I agree that it's obnoxious that we ruin so many good anime, I also think that it's completely necesarry. Think about it, how did you start watching anime?

Almost all of us started off of either Pokemon in the mornings, Toonami in the evenings, or just straight-up Adult Swim at nights, with the crappy version of all of these good anime, or the crappy version of crappy anime! Either way, that's how we discovered it!

For someone who's not invested in anime, it's really difficult to get into if you're dealing with subs and a bunch of things you don't understand (for instance, with Pokemon in the original series them eating Onigiri and calling it a "jelly donut". Clearly it wasn't a donut, but we wouldn't know what an Onigiri was and god knows as a child I would be like HOW IS RICE WITH SEAWEED A GOOD SNACK!??), so they localize it for us. It sucks when we get hooked and find out it was all a sham, but it's needed to get us into it.

If we didn't have the crappy versions of these shows on our cable TV, we'd have little to no anime fans in the US.

Yep.. basically the same thing here. Also, back when I did watch DBZ on Toonami, I wasn't aware of what the original Japanese voices sounded like, so it would've never occurred to me to be bothered in the first place.

Oh, for gods sake. That's been going on from the get-go. They neutered Uchuu Senkan Yamato and called it StarBlazers. They vivisected Macross and called it Robotech. I'm pretty sure they screwed Astroboy and Mach GoGoGo (Speed Racer) too but I can't say because I didn't watch them. There was a period in the very late '90's thru the mid 2000's when some translations and dubs were pretty good but money got tight and everything went to hell again.

yea if it wasn't for adult swim I would never have started watching anime, but definately online subs are better than dubs with nearly every series.

4Kids Yu-Gi-Oh. Seriously, they changed anything related to "death" into "sent to the shadow realm".

I started watching anime through Naruto.

HAHAHA. That's hilarious. I'm so glad I never watched the dubbed version of Death Note. I would have been thinking of it as a comedy the entire time.

well if there's a rant i can make about american anime invasion its voice acting.

i dont like the sense of other nationalities trying the fck hard of their way to dubbed characters out of their reach. they just technically killed the drama or the scenes and making everything a joke.

japanese anime characters should talk as japanese and not english thus keeping the story natural, original and realistic... honestly, subtitles are way better. preserve the originality and not destroying it. japanese folks knows whats best for their great products.

well just my opinion for this topic...

(anyway, as a hard coded otaku, the word cartoons is for american animation only, and anime is exclusively for japanese animation use only)

Now while I 100% agree with you that Japanese characters speaking Japanese is the only way to go....not all anime is set in Japan, so in some cases the English dub is far more "realistic" even if it isn't of high quality.

xD Suuure.

For the monies.

Upon futher research Mach GoGoGo dub was perfect word for word [mnius the op and name chnages ] but all the script was the same down to the word does it not strike oyu that that far back had more accutre dubbing than today for TV anime

As far as dubbing the shows.....I don't have a problem with it since i watch both dubs and subs anyway with no problems. So it doesn't bother me much. As an anime fan it makes me smile to see the industry strive in such a foreign continent. It makes me feel like the world has opened it's eyes to how much entertainment the anime universe can provide. Much better than Hollywood Blockbusters.....Don't get me wrong......I love watching movies, however compared to the storytelling and visuals that anime can provide then movies are really shadowed by anime's potential.

To the point however, i do agree with you on that when someone like 4kids (the only licensor i know of), does the dubbing of a show and over-editing then yes it just makes it bad. Avatar the Last Airbender would have been good if it had not been for all of the workarounds needed because of the age group the show was targeted at. It's story wasn't bad, and the character development was nicely done i think. If it had a bit more mature elements then it would've been golden.

Dragonball series....This is the big one....and Pokemon....Those are the major examples on why stuff like that shouldn't be allowed for American broadcast. If licensors are so afraid of it let FUNimation take the job....Sure they have censored SOME stuff....But the majority of their content comes out pretty raw and untouched aside from English translation. (aside from Nudity).

All in all, i don't think bringing anime to America is a bad thing....But don't ruin it with overly-censoring needless things, and if you're going to do that then just don't touch the series...Let someone who has the balls to distribute it if you can't handle it. That's the way i see it.

I could go into such detail as to how arrogant this comment is.....But i'd rather not waste my time.

I just feel bad for those here in America that couldn't see DBZ and GT uncut with jap ost.

Well, honestly now i wouldn't even watch Dragonball Z if it was aired uncut.....I loved it as a kid....But there are many more animes that i enjoy watching a lot more than i iever did Dragonball Z. Still though, i let my nephews watch anime on my Netflix all the time.

My twelve year old Nephew loves Highschool of the Dead, and my other two Nephews....think one is nine and the other is seven, they like Elfen Lied and Inuyasha. Letting them watch shows like those have never had any adverse effects on them. Ofcourse they go outside and act like their favorite characters but is there really anything wrong with that? I just think that the United States censors things needlessly.

I agree with you 100%. We're so sensitive about things like violence these days, but I grew up watching slasher flicks when I was only 5. I'm not stupid enough to actually -do- it, so why do you have to censor me from it? Japan has the right idea - kids can handle a little bit of violence. It's really not that big of a deal.

It's because no one can do anything without some sort of logical meaning to it. It's them trying to put logic behind why something happened, and in many cases it comes to blaming any entertainment medium the person convicted used. It's a rough estimate. Reminds me when someone tried to get the Burnout series banned in the states because "It taught people how to crash cars".

If you're seriously this worried about people learning to crash cars from a video game then i'm afraid to tell you but you've got bigger issues to deal with my friend.