American anime invasion. Your opinions?
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06-08-12, 3:05 PM
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Armiga21 said: Kids shows in Japan can have content to make it an adult show if aired uncut in the states. example? ![]() |
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06-08-12, 3:11 PM
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Don't really care, don't even watch TV except to get news |
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06-08-12, 3:44 PM
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Synrite said: example? All the kids anime on Adult Swim for example. Bleach, Inuyasha, Fullmetal Alchemist, etc. Only way those shows will ever air on US TV uncut is to label them adult shows when they're like Saturday morning cartoons in Japan. |
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06-08-12, 3:51 PM
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I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? |
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06-08-12, 3:57 PM
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yokaii said: I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? I wonder what you think about the Bleach one they're making. JeddyVII said: Space Brothers - The best anime of 2012 & possibly the best slice-of-life anime I've seen.It may have some flaws (which doesn't affect my opinion),but I have yet to see anyone hate this series. |
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06-08-12, 4:06 PM
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Armiga21 said: Synrite said: example? All the kids anime on Adult Swim for example. Bleach, Inuyasha, Fullmetal Alchemist, etc. Only way those shows will ever air on US TV uncut is to label them adult shows when they're like Saturday morning cartoons in Japan. Saturday morning cartoons? Sorry but that is bullshit. I don't know what you are going with this. Are you frustrated that America edits anime that they believe are aimed towards children to be more childish, or that you believe japanese kids and parents are less sensitive towards violence in cartoon shows? ![]() |
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06-08-12, 4:07 PM
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Jeddy017 said: yokaii said: I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? I wonder what you think about the Bleach one they're making. Death note? Bleach? didn't the american movie industry learn from dragon ball? Heck we even butchered our own cartoon through avatar. ![]() |
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06-08-12, 4:25 PM
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Without "bad American editing" I wouldn't have had the joy of watching dragonball as a kid, one piece as a teen, tenchi muyo, gundam wing, pokemon, digimon... the list goes on. My childhood was a bunch better thanks to this invasion. |
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06-08-12, 4:32 PM
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Synrite said: Jeddy017 said: yokaii said: I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? I wonder what you think about the Bleach one they're making. Death note? Bleach? didn't the american movie industry learn from dragon ball? Heck we even butchered our own cartoon through avatar. I think they learned to get people who know about the thing they're adapting involved.That way some of the fans can say it was decent. And how did we ruin Avatar?Yes,it's not as good,but still. JeddyVII said: Space Brothers - The best anime of 2012 & possibly the best slice-of-life anime I've seen.It may have some flaws (which doesn't affect my opinion),but I have yet to see anyone hate this series. |
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06-08-12, 4:53 PM
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Synrite said: Saturday morning cartoons? Sorry but that is bullshit. I don't know what you are going with this. Are you frustrated that America edits anime that they believe are aimed towards children to be more childish, or that you believe japanese kids and parents are less sensitive towards violence in cartoon shows? Both, I suppose? They're kids shows in Japan, whether you want to accept it or not. Naruto airs right before Pokemon does. One Piece airs Sunday Mornings, etc. |
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06-08-12, 4:53 PM
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Jeddy017 said: Synrite said: Jeddy017 said: yokaii said: I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? I wonder what you think about the Bleach one they're making. Death note? Bleach? didn't the american movie industry learn from dragon ball? Heck we even butchered our own cartoon through avatar. I think they learned to get people who know about the thing they're adapting involved.That way some of the fans can say it was decent. And how did we ruin Avatar?Yes,it's not as good,but still. It.....It was terrible.....by every meaning of the word. The only reason you can say it was decent is if you didn't watch the series at all. 1. Names were incorrect(how the hell do you do that) 2. The different races....er...benders Asian(earth benders) Indians (Fire bender/bad guys) Caucasians (Water benders/good guys) Mixed races(Air Benders/hippies?) 3. Elemental use The Asians...er...earth benders had to do a black fraternity step-a-thon just to mave a couple rocks. Fire benders needed fire to bend. There are many other things i can point out, but these were key. The only thing done right in that movie was the character that played aang, he was perfect. ![]() |
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06-08-12, 5:01 PM
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Synrite said: Jeddy017 said: Synrite said: Jeddy017 said: yokaii said: I'm not really bothered by this, since I don't really watch these shows, and the dubbing seems perfectly fine for most 'adult' shows. What I do mind is that they're making a U.S. live action of Death Note. Just .. why? I wonder what you think about the Bleach one they're making. Death note? Bleach? didn't the american movie industry learn from dragon ball? Heck we even butchered our own cartoon through avatar. I think they learned to get people who know about the thing they're adapting involved.That way some of the fans can say it was decent. And how did we ruin Avatar?Yes,it's not as good,but still. It.....It was terrible.....by every meaning of the word. The only reason you can say it was decent is if you didn't watch the series at all. 1. Names were incorrect(how the hell do you do that) 2. The different races....er...benders Asian(earth benders) Indians (Fire bender/bad guys) Caucasians (Water benders/good guys) Mixed races(Air Benders/hippies?) 3. Elemental use The Asians...er...earth benders had to do a black fraternity step-a-thon just to mave a couple rocks. Fire benders needed fire to bend. There are many other things i can point out, but these were key. The only thing done right in that movie was the character that played aang, he was perfect. OH,I see.The live action movie.Never seen it. JeddyVII said: Space Brothers - The best anime of 2012 & possibly the best slice-of-life anime I've seen.It may have some flaws (which doesn't affect my opinion),but I have yet to see anyone hate this series. |
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06-08-12, 5:06 PM
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Armiga21 said: Synrite said: Saturday morning cartoons? Sorry but that is bullshit. I don't know what you are going with this. Are you frustrated that America edits anime that they believe are aimed towards children to be more childish, or that you believe japanese kids and parents are less sensitive towards violence in cartoon shows? Both, I suppose? They're kids shows in Japan, whether you want to accept it or not. Naruto airs right before Pokemon does. One Piece airs Sunday Mornings, etc. And they are kid shows here, just a little more kiddie. As i said earlier america is taking anime shows meant for 11 and 12 year olds, and making them more suitable for 9 to 10 year olds. I Believe this is a smart move. Editing an anime so it appeals to the younger targeted demographic cause the older targeted demographic is more willing to play Cod and Gears of War. I don't know exactly where you are going with this. But most anime is not as mature as you try to make it out to be. In most romance animes the plot is about the main male or female lead trying to say "I love you" to their crush or try to attempt the seemingly life completing mission of going for a kiss. There may not be as many mature american cartoons, but have you read some comics, graphic novels, or novels? I'm assuming you haven't cause if you did i don't think you would be making such bullshit allegations. I doubt you have actually tried to look for mature american cartoons other then what you have seen on tv. Try looking up the spawn the animated series, or some of batman animated films. ![]() |
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06-08-12, 5:16 PM
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I'm not sure about the word invasion. If you're in the US and your source of anime is just your local TV/cable channel, sure. But hey, there's this thing called the internet. With even Hulu Plus offering original Japanese versions with sub, I think the choice will still be there. There's always fansub anyway. As for live action stuff, that's simply the producers/directors being ignorant. They have screwed many things outside anime, including video games adaptations. Heck, we can also blame the Japanese license holders, for allowing it to happen in the first place. In the end it's all about money. They see a franchise, and try to see how they can make money off it, without actually paying attention to the franchise itself. Chinese/HK adaptations sometimes are bad too. My favorite is the King of Fighters live action movie, where they picked Sean Farris to be Kyo Kusanagi. :rolleyes: I mean come on, really? Was there no Asian actors at all? :D |
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06-08-12, 6:10 PM
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Jeddy017 said: 1. Names were incorrect(how the hell do you do that) Actually the names in the movie are how you correctly pronounce those names. The show got it wrong and pronounced them like a bad anime dubbing company would. Fire benders needed fire to bend. That just puts them on the same page as everyone else in the show. It was always a plothole/asspull how they could make their own element. |
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06-09-12, 1:38 AM
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InsaneMooseCat said: Hey! I'm just getting into the MAL forums, and I just want to hear your opinions on something that really annoys me. Its when americans come along and turn good anime bad. For example, Dragonball. Dragonball used to be good, but then they came along, censored it all and used it for children. They basically, took it, took a massive crap on it and then put it on children's channels. Also, with the over-enthusiastic child friendly voices on Pokemon and Sonic's voice in the animated sonic the hedgehog really annoys me. I'd love to hear your opinions, if you love it or hate it. This is all merely my opinion. :D u are just a butthurt person,some animes are better in dub,like baccano,cowboy bebop,etc ![]() |
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06-09-12, 1:50 AM
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Synrite said: Armiga21 said: Synrite said: Saturday morning cartoons? Sorry but that is bullshit. I don't know what you are going with this. Are you frustrated that America edits anime that they believe are aimed towards children to be more childish, or that you believe japanese kids and parents are less sensitive towards violence in cartoon shows? Both, I suppose? They're kids shows in Japan, whether you want to accept it or not. Naruto airs right before Pokemon does. One Piece airs Sunday Mornings, etc. And they are kid shows here, just a little more kiddie. As i said earlier america is taking anime shows meant for 11 and 12 year olds, and making them more suitable for 9 to 10 year olds. I Believe this is a smart move. Editing an anime so it appeals to the younger targeted demographic cause the older targeted demographic is more willing to play Cod and Gears of War. I don't know exactly where you are going with this. But most anime is not as mature as you try to make it out to be. In most romance animes the plot is about the main male or female lead trying to say "I love you" to their crush or try to attempt the seemingly life completing mission of going for a kiss. I completely disagree with your first point about making anime suitable for 9 to 10 year olds. My prime example of which you seem to be forgetting, is Dragonball. The americans took dragonball, went insane and killed it. They actually killed the brilliant anime it was. It gets hardly any credit for being the anime that was about death and etc that it used to be. The Americans has killed this great anime. I don't understand your point when talking about the romance anime. They hardly (if at all) show any. And I'd disagree about romance anime having the goal of going for a kiss anyway. They're not specifically aiming for a kiss, they're aiming for mutual affection. (Sorry but I had to pick up on this because I really just disagreed). I'll agree with you on the fact that most of them aren't really mature, but as I said, they hardly (if at all) show any. And I'll agree confessions are a big aim in romances though. ![]() |
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06-09-12, 1:55 AM
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renders said: InsaneMooseCat said: Hey! I'm just getting into the MAL forums, and I just want to hear your opinions on something that really annoys me. Its when americans come along and turn good anime bad. For example, Dragonball. Dragonball used to be good, but then they came along, censored it all and used it for children. They basically, took it, took a massive crap on it and then put it on children's channels. Also, with the over-enthusiastic child friendly voices on Pokemon and Sonic's voice in the animated sonic the hedgehog really annoys me. I'd love to hear your opinions, if you love it or hate it. This is all merely my opinion. :D u are just a butthurt person,some animes are better in dub,like baccano,cowboy bebop,etc Firstly, you put spaces in between your commas. Secondly, I'm not "butthurt", I have my own opinions on this and I was just interested to see the community's opinions. ![]() |
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06-09-12, 2:19 AM
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Eh, I don't really mind. If I wanted to watch Dragonball in English unedited, then I'd just buy the DVDs. Those are unedited from what I heard. I like the American edited version of pokemon myself. Good memories. |
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06-09-12, 2:55 AM
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The Dragonball dub on the DVDs isn't unedited either. They still censor out stuff because it was dubbed for TV rather than being dubbed and then edited for TV later. They remove a lot of the sexual dialog between Bulma and Goku, like talking about her breasts or his dick and other stuff. The only way to watch Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z uncut is through the sub |



