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Is Clannad overrated as a show entirely just because of its ending?
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View Poll Results: Is Clannad overrated as a show entirely just because of its ending?
Yes
 
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No
 
60 73.17%
Doesn't matter the ending is what MAKES the show
 
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06-19-12, 10:54 PM

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under rated, over rated, who gives a fuck, judge the show off of what you see it as not off of how other see it


and no its not over rated just cause the ending, its simply not for everyone as any show with a good score is
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It's normal to have one and it's nice to be proud of it. But for the love of god, don't pull it out in public and don't wave it in other's faces."

 
06-20-12, 8:33 PM

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I don't favor the ending , it would be better without that last episode . But no matter what, its the only anime that make me cried manly tears, thus it deserves a spot in my favorites

It's just a shame that everyone seems to think you need a happy ending in order to make a story great.
 
06-20-12, 8:36 PM

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I don't favor the ending , it would be better without that last episode . But no matter what, its the only anime that make me cried manly tears, thus it deserves a spot in my favorites

It's just a shame that everyone seems to think you need a happy ending in order to make a story great.


Even then. Not even killing Ushio and leaving off with the great development of leading up to Tomoya deciding to become a good father for her would have made a good ending and a happy ending. That being said it would also make most of the other arcs pointless and essentially padding to the story. Not sure which i would prefer without seeing it the other way first.

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06-21-12, 4:43 PM

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I would vote for "No, it's not overrated but deserves to be praised as it is/gets" if there'd be an option like this.
I for myself love it throughout S1&2 including the ending (still not showing healthy Nagisa anymore with her family was stupid at the closing) and rated it with 10 cause I really think it's a masterpiece. Probably because I have an affinity for slice of life/romance. But despite that Clannad had some really funny scenes as well as really sad scenes that nearly killed me as a man but at the same time I enjoyed it a great deal for all that. Even now there are still scenes that I can't get out of my head even though I watched it some time ago. That are reasons to rate it rather higher than lower, I think. A bad/good ending doesn't make the whole anime bad/good either.

But at the same time I don't think everyone else has to think the same about it as I do. If people don't like it they're allowed to disagree with me and rate it much lower. To be honest who cares anyway?
Ratings may be an indicator for something but are never an absolute state.
Therefore a discussion about "is XY underrated/overrated" is on of the most subjective things you can discuss as no opinion is superior to another.
 
06-22-12, 9:46 AM

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To be honest, I think the ending is the downfall of the series. I love this series, but most people say this show is worse because of the random ending. Personally, I don't mind this sort of sudden happiness as an ending to such a sad season, but many people don't and the sudden happy ending pushes them away.

Whether it ended happily or sadly, I know this anime messed with my emotions unlike any other anime and that itself makes it deserve a 10/10 for me.
 
06-22-12, 10:36 AM

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To be honest, I think the ending is the downfall of the series. I love this series, but most people say this show is worse because of the random ending. Personally, I don't mind this sort of sudden happiness as an ending to such a sad season, but many people don't and the sudden happy ending pushes them away.

Whether it ended happily or sadly, I know this anime messed with my emotions unlike any other anime and that itself makes it deserve a 10/10 for me.
The issue they have with the ending is that it destroys the character development. Why grow attached to Ushio and have her little story of them getting along like father and daughter when you'll kill her and have a full reboot on her life. Just keep Ushio alive and teach that you have to live with some tragedy. Killing Ushio only to revive both mom and daughter and erase all the character development is what people rage at even more than the fact it was random in te anime (it wasn't random in the VN and I still found it a little annoying).

 
06-22-12, 10:44 AM

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slicer45 said:
To be honest, I think the ending is the downfall of the series. I love this series, but most people say this show is worse because of the random ending. Personally, I don't mind this sort of sudden happiness as an ending to such a sad season, but many people don't and the sudden happy ending pushes them away.

Whether it ended happily or sadly, I know this anime messed with my emotions unlike any other anime and that itself makes it deserve a 10/10 for me.
The issue they have with the ending is that it destroys the character development. Why grow attached to Ushio and have her little story of them getting along like father and daughter when you'll kill her and have a full reboot on her life. Just keep Ushio alive and teach that you have to live with some tragedy. Killing Ushio only to revive both mom and daughter and erase all the character development is what people rage at even more than the fact it was random in te anime (it wasn't random in the VN and I still found it a little annoying).


Lol wat, nonrandom in VN, so how do you expect the anime to follow the VN then? AFAIK the anime follows true end with the light orbs collection 'in one route.'

Reading these kind of posts has only led me to the conclusion people should slaughter the 'holy cow' that is character development. I don't even know how do people even define it anymore, and with the way you define it it is more of character attachment rather than change over time.

The fact of the matter lies with that whether it happened or not is irrelevant: it happened if it did, and didn't happened if it didn't. That's the only answer I can give to that question. As far as I know this goes back to philosophical viewpoints on time progression, probably a whole other topic like realism and what not.

What's real, however, was that the watcher watched 40+ episodes of CLANNAD. You probably could skip it, then the ending really didn't matter. And honestly it wasn't supposed to, if you skipped everything. That's what's an ending is for.

I'm also very frustrated with these kinds of posts because Little Busters is coming out soon. Assuming JC Staff doesn't cook up an entirely new and worse(well, probably won't be better) story, then ReFrain will happen. And when Refrain happens there's probably going to be similar things. This is because this isn't like Tsukihime, where the VN deals with philosophical thought so much better than the anime, and then ended with a 'final epilogue' which has nearly no repercussions for any heroine route, but more of an ending for the prologue it started with. BUT Clannad's ending expands its heroine ending.

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06-23-12, 3:19 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
slicer45 said:
To be honest, I think the ending is the downfall of the series. I love this series, but most people say this show is worse because of the random ending. Personally, I don't mind this sort of sudden happiness as an ending to such a sad season, but many people don't and the sudden happy ending pushes them away.

Whether it ended happily or sadly, I know this anime messed with my emotions unlike any other anime and that itself makes it deserve a 10/10 for me.
The issue they have with the ending is that it destroys the character development. Why grow attached to Ushio and have her little story of them getting along like father and daughter when you'll kill her and have a full reboot on her life. Just keep Ushio alive and teach that you have to live with some tragedy. Killing Ushio only to revive both mom and daughter and erase all the character development is what people rage at even more than the fact it was random in te anime (it wasn't random in the VN and I still found it a little annoying).


i think the development between Tomoya and Ushio was to see if Tomoya could still become a good father with nagisa gone. I think all those sad moments served a purpose to see if Tomoya could bear through all the sadness and see Nagisa's soul in Ushio and pull forward without ever regretting to have meet nagisa in the first place.
 
06-26-12, 9:14 AM

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But no matter what, its the only anime that make me cried manly tears, thus it deserves a spot in my favorites


Manly tears, nice. True that.

 
06-26-12, 9:27 AM

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No....the whole fucking thing was beautiful (especially the AS season).
 
06-26-12, 2:29 PM

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Verdale said:
Spacebar said:
But no matter what, its the only anime that make me cried manly tears, thus it deserves a spot in my favorites


Manly tears, nice. True that.


Edefrem said:
No....the whole fucking thing was beautiful (especially the AS season).


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the only form of any anime manga VN anything at all to make me cry giant manly tears this isnt over hyped at all and deserves everything its getting /thread
 
06-26-12, 4:54 PM

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Just watched it myself last week and I enjoyed all of it. The ending just rounds it up to one of the best anime. But like I said, there aren't many anime where I get this feeling "Just one more episode", Clannad was one of these few.
 
06-27-12, 2:32 PM

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I loved the show and i liked the ending as well, it didn't make me depressed for days and tbh i feel it was a good ending that fit the anime since there were alot of other super natural things that happend in the show overall. In the games there is actually some back story to how the ending happend.
 
06-27-12, 3:23 PM

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Zmffkskem said:

I'm also very frustrated with these kinds of posts because Little Busters is coming out soon. Assuming JC Staff doesn't cook up an entirely new and worse(well, probably won't be better) story, then ReFrain will happen. And when Refrain happens there's probably going to be similar things. This is because this isn't like Tsukihime, where the VN deals with philosophical thought so much better than the anime, and then ended with a 'final epilogue' which has nearly no repercussions for any heroine route, but more of an ending for the prologue it started with. BUT Clannad's ending expands its heroine ending.
Do note I was mostly collecting the overall posts I've seen in discussions into one, they aren't "completely" my feelings. Also, Refrain uses a completely different setting and the True end is not even a miracle in it's "oh, suddenly all is well and good" kind of way.

 
07-03-12, 9:37 AM

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This series is very overrated, it was alright but not worth the hype


You didn't even watch half of After Story and didn't even watch any other Key animes. So how exactly can you judge it being the typical thing that Key sells?? Your opinion is invalid.
 
07-03-12, 9:40 AM

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I have three possible endings that would have been better for Clannad.

Either:

1. They could have used the Clannad Movie's ending (Tomoya and Ushio meet for the first time)
2. Ended it at episode 19

or

3. SPOILER After Ushio dies and the Dream World ends and there's no happy ending at all.

I don't know what anyone else thinks but not all animes have to have a happy ending. If it was turning out to be sad, it probably should have ended that way. I vote number 3 of my options, even though it would have been cruel. They managed to make a sad ending with Air, they could do it with Clannad.
 
07-03-12, 9:43 AM

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Anything 'popular' is overrated.

For me, I thought the ending was great. Whether it's overrated or not is up to you.

As for everyone's comments on the ending:

Remember this is a KEY work that's similar to Air and Kanon. A supernatural ending is to be expected considering the build up with the orbs, the legend of the town, and the illusionary world.
 
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