Just a little question i was asking myself (spoiler inside)
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06-14-12, 9:11 AM
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xizor said: ssjokg said: I dont understand what you are saying about Suzuha.Why would she disappear from 28/7(Kurisu's "death" day )instead of some days later(i dont know if she disappeared in 21/8 but definitely she doesnt have to disappear in 28/7 since there is no way for Nakabachi to leave Japan with Russia's help in the same day). I am saying that, if she "dissapeared" because of the world line change, she should have dissapeared completely from past and future. And That's Exactly what Happend. There is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate World Line in the past and in the Future. Well, no Suzuha with Time Machine. All past-changing manipulations left in Beta. Disappearance is a rough term, she didn't disappered, she just not appeared in Steins;Gate, she... kind of dissolved during Time Travel to Future, left in Beta, that's why there is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate. And Okabe was just returned by universe to where he should be, to steins;gate... Yeah, it's sounds a bit scrappy. I mean, Okabe traveled with Suzuha to the future till the moment of Nakabachi's papers burning, and then Suzuha left in Beta and Okabe was thrown to Steins;Gate. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey space magic. Modified by Finjas, 06-14-12, 9:19 AM 世界を救うのはヒーローじゃない。オタクだ！ Science Adventure Geek. |
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06-14-12, 9:18 AM
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Finjas said: xizor said: ssjokg said: I dont understand what you are saying about Suzuha.Why would she disappear from 28/7(Kurisu's "death" day )instead of some days later(i dont know if she disappeared in 21/8 but definitely she doesnt have to disappear in 28/7 since there is no way for Nakabachi to leave Japan with Russia's help in the same day). I am saying that, if she "dissapeared" because of the world line change, she should have dissapeared completely from past and future. And That's Exactly what Happend. There is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate World Line in the past and in the Future. Well, no Suzuha with Time Machine. All past-changing manipulations left in Beta. Disappearance is a rough term, she didn't disappered, she just not appeared in Steins;Gate, she... kind of dissolved during Time Travel to Future, left in Beta, that's why there is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate. And Okabe was just returned by universe to where he should be, to steins;gate... Yeah, it's sounds a bit scrappy. I mean, Okabe treveled with Suzuha to the future till the moment of Nakabachi's papers burning, and the Suzuha left in Beta and Okabe was thrown to Steins;Gate. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey space magic. Then what happened on 28/7 in the Steins Gate world line? And IIRC time machine dissapeared after they arrived to 21/8 not during the time travel. |
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06-14-12, 9:27 AM
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xizor said: Finjas said: xizor said: ssjokg said: I dont understand what you are saying about Suzuha.Why would she disappear from 28/7(Kurisu's "death" day )instead of some days later(i dont know if she disappeared in 21/8 but definitely she doesnt have to disappear in 28/7 since there is no way for Nakabachi to leave Japan with Russia's help in the same day). I am saying that, if she "dissapeared" because of the world line change, she should have dissapeared completely from past and future. And That's Exactly what Happend. There is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate World Line in the past and in the Future. Well, no Suzuha with Time Machine. All past-changing manipulations left in Beta. Disappearance is a rough term, she didn't disappered, she just not appeared in Steins;Gate, she... kind of dissolved during Time Travel to Future, left in Beta, that's why there is no Suzuha in Steins;Gate. And Okabe was just returned by universe to where he should be, to steins;gate... Yeah, it's sounds a bit scrappy. I mean, Okabe treveled with Suzuha to the future till the moment of Nakabachi's papers burning, and the Suzuha left in Beta and Okabe was thrown to Steins;Gate. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey space magic. Then what happened on 28/7 in the Steins Gate world line? We don't know, there wasn't any information about this, as I told before. We also don't know what exactly in details happened after Moeka received her D-Mail. All we know, that she stole IBN from the Shrine, but we don't know how, and that' actually not a trifle, if you remember that 2 persons was barely enough to bring it to the lab. Why didn't Ruka with her father noticed a group of suspicious people near the shrine? And when Okabe changes world line he don't know what happend after his past self received D-Mail. We could assume, that Okabe's injury was in that world line from different cause. If there are such predetermined events like deaths, why injury couldn't be one of these predetermined events? 世界を救うのはヒーローじゃない。オタクだ！ Science Adventure Geek. |
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06-14-12, 9:39 AM
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Finjas said: We don't know, there wasn't any information about this, as I told before. We also don't know what exactly in details happened after Moeka received her D-Mail. All we know, that she stole IBN from the Shrine, but we don't know how, and that' actually not a trifle, if you remember that 2 persons was barely enough to bring it to the lab. Why didn't Ruka with her father noticed a group of suspicious people near the shrine? And when Okabe changes world line he don't know what happend after his past self received D-Mail. We could assume, that Okabe's injury was in that world line from different cause. If there are such predetermined events like deaths, why injury couldn't be one of these predetermined events? We know what Kurisu said when Okabe met her later. I don't think the Rounders would have much problem with stealing IBM5100 unnoticed. But you're right, this is a possible explanation (wound being fated result). The world converged so that Okabe of the Steins Gate world line saved Kurisu on 28/7 and got wounded. This would actually explain many things. |