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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 9 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
186 75.92%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
39 15.92%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
15 6.12%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
2 0.82%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
3 1.22%
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06-02-12, 8:27 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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My hands are totally shaking at what the end presented itself in depiction of the treatment of homunculus.

About thee end of the episode, I cannot say I liked seeing the whole sequence of Kirei faces in the spoiler
Along with the fact Gilgamesh was there, however the denouement was interesting to see as it lead to a rather twisted sick reality of perhaps close to cloning and abusing life itself. I was like literally projected back to EVA and the whole Rei Ayanami situation to say the least. I was totally dead stricken of the whole spoiler (NSFW) all these naked Irisviel clones were horrific to see. It was totally gruesome abuse of life and essentially cloning. As such came
a very shocking face of Irisviel. However it followed with a nice moment in the following,

I TT_TT hard man! Along with the spoiler
OMG! The whole decay depiction in the spoiler (NSFW)
and assuming highly all these clones disappearing into nothingness like they were thrash being burned. Along with those small hands abusing Irisviel's beautiful face! Oh! THE RAGE! RAGE! I say! That leaves a rather magnificent depiction of Irisviel in the spoiler
whom I liked the way it was shown. Suffice to say it was very sick!

To say the least SICK! Life treated like garbage!

Other than that still shook up of Kirei strangling Irisviel. Now he is on my HIT LIST!

About the ordeal of heart aching, there is nothing like the following,

That can depict TT_TT and rage as much as this. It was like “KIREIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!” And on. Words cannot describe the intense RAGE felt and very feeling as I write this. At first Irisviel had a nice defiant face here, however it turned sour when I see Kirei here. I know SHIT IS GOING TO HIT FANS! I knew it. I was never ready for what followed in the spoiler
Kirei choking Irisviel. THAT BASTARD! BASTARD! Unbelievable! I could never have seen this coming. Add to that those poor suffering faces of Irisviel in the spoiler
and the pain is so much greater.
Yet I am still surprised they managed to fill in some relief facials in the spoiler
of Irisviel herself. In thee end it’s cut short by Waver’s part.

I finish this with respect to Irisviel and my love for her character like so. Waver and Rider were nice comedic reliefs to say the least with nice drama at the end. I think this was the most TT_TT episode and I have a feeling it will get worst later with her the point I might need some beer to calm down. This was HARDCORE and I though Caster was the worst, I cannot express this episode how much more deeper and harder it hit to see Irisviel being abused by Kirei and her past.
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06-02-12, 8:43 AM

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What Kirei did to Irisviel was cruel, just to get rid of and crumble his enemy, Kiritsugu,'s dream.

Weaver kind of got scared? but determined/aware of the final battle, so he "gave up" being the master to Rider. (That instant was ... how to say... cool?)
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06-02-12, 8:59 AM

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I want to kill Kirei myself now.
 
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06-02-12, 9:02 AM

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Typo in the episode? That sign said 21..

Anyway all my tears, the episode had the best interaction of the anime thus far, Waver's scene with the grandfather and then the friendship scene with Rider, and how I thought he was actually going to send Rider on alone and we'd see no more Waver got me emotional. And then when he picked him up and put him on the hours and Waver was all agitated and conflicted with emotions of happiness, was so lovely. True friends.

Waver has consistently been my favorite.
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06-02-12, 9:05 AM

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Kirei fuuuuuuuuuuuk. I have to go to the chapel to kill him.
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06-02-12, 9:09 AM

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Stark700 said:
I want to kill Kirei myself now.
LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TT

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06-02-12, 9:16 AM

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This episode was quite emotional. Iri's death and transformation into the Holy Grail, Waver and Rider...

Man, I really want Rider to win this Holy Grail War.
 
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06-02-12, 9:17 AM

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I want to kill Kirei to. Cause Iri was my favorite here (
 
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06-02-12, 9:34 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Stark700 said:
I want to kill Kirei myself now.
LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TT

But but Kirei is the best character!!! next to Rider
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06-02-12, 9:37 AM

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Welp...being the grail means she has to be sacrificed.

Mo homunculi, mo problems.
 
06-02-12, 9:38 AM

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dankickyou said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Stark700 said:
I want to kill Kirei myself now.
LET ME JOIN! I could get some army against him. DAMN IT! I know it's all fiction but the the dagger in the heart does not stop from digging in it all the time. Does anyone feel the same? So painful and it so lingers in the mind. Especially if you love Irisviel as a character. TT_TT

But but Kirei is the best character!!! next to Rider


so is Kyubey in you-know-what, but I still want to kill him.
 
06-02-12, 9:44 AM

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Grandpa confirmed for bro.

Kirei, finding a reason to fight now. Damn, I cringed at the snapping part.

Waver is so moe. Oh man, those dialogues after Rider placed him on the horse are just begging for doujins.

And there it is, my black mud. Those homunculus bodies...
Poor Iri. Poor Ilya

Rider vs. Archer next time.
Things will get so real next time.
 
06-02-12, 9:59 AM

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Holy crap UFO! They cut too much psychological activities in Kiritsugu&Saber scene...

PS:Has anyone noticed the meaning of those flares? In tarot, 4 stands for Emperor, while 7 stands for Chariot. Exactly Gil & Alex.
 
06-02-12, 10:00 AM

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That rider scene on the horse was just adorable. I love Rider so much. >.<
 
06-02-12, 10:00 AM
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Dayum it went from 29 hours left to only 4 hours in one episode.

I think this is the best episode since before the flashbacks. So many feelings~~ I can't believe that old man, figuring out Waver isn't his grandson. The moment between them was really sweet. And then the moment with Rider too. And poor Iri :< Now I really can't wait for the next ep. They better do a good job!!
 
06-02-12, 10:15 AM

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Kirei is totally disappointed in Kiritsugu. Oh well~

Rider >< I'll miss you bro. Gilgamesh is not playing this time.
 
06-02-12, 10:16 AM

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oh man, that preview is brutal....
 
06-02-12, 10:28 AM

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Damn big F*** you to Kirei, poor Iri seeing those bodies made me tear up a bit.
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06-02-12, 10:29 AM

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waver moe. good ep. kirei i dont like in this series. was more bamf in the visual novel to me. some fucking epic action needs to fucking happen already.
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06-02-12, 10:29 AM

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Nice move there, Kirei, putting up Berserker against Saber so that he can deal with Rider without them interfering.

It's quite interesting in how many cases characters are motivated by the wish to wipe out the from their point of view illusionary and pathetic ideals of certain people and to prove them wrong. The first one was Waver who opposed to Kayneth's belief in the dominance of bloodlines but until now Saber has been the biggest target of this kind of endeavour by Rider and Kiritsugu. Ironically, the wish to destroy the latter one's ideals becomes Kirei's final motivation in this war and judging from what has happened until now it is safe to assume that Kiritsugu's ideals will not fare better than those of any of the other participants. Kirei is the exception here as he neither possesses any ideals like Saber and her master nor does he follow a certain moral code like Kaneth and Tokiomi and he certainly seems to be favoured by the writer as he is the most successful in the game.
 
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