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05-28-12, 3:21 AM

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fuck everything zessica is still alive!! thank god but how freaking lame was that reunion between her and amata. ive got to say amata has no idea what he is missing out on. mikono is the worst character in this entire anime. once again in this episode she is completely useless and keeps me in disbelief that amata would actually choose her over zessica (who previously you know....just died for him) fuck that shit
 
05-28-12, 3:25 AM

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drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.


I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.


It's not about him loving her. No one was expecting him to suddenly be obsessed and in love with Zessica. It's a matter of the fact that he should have at least had some human decency. Zessica is supposed to be his friend/ teammate, but did he even show one ounce of concern or sadness for her?

Big, huge ass no.

I understand he has a lot going on his plate, you know with Mikono and Kagura, same old, same old- but could he have at least showed a bit of guilt over Zessica who ended up saving him twice and literally sacrificed herself to save him?

Ugh...
 
05-28-12, 3:32 AM

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these pairings are all terrible. Jun and Yunoha were the only one decent. I hope everyone goes gay/lesbian at the end.period.
Amata should have raged for Zessica and give us some angst, but he is too obsessed for Mikono. (did I mention Mikono got one of the first places in a recent poll in Japan about the "most annoying characters in anime"?)


Kagura is still hot though, its not his fault that he is so sexy. Perhaps he and Amata will join again, this time in marriage as husband and husband. Marrying yourself is always the best option.


Kagura: " We can kill each other all night long, Sylvie!"
EPIC quote.
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05-28-12, 3:43 AM

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It's time for Mikono to use her power. Not only could she connect the Amata's two halves but maybe also earth and Altair to solve the conflicts.
 
05-28-12, 4:02 AM

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good episode but damn Zessica deserves Amata but Amata is worthless too just like Mikono is
 
05-28-12, 4:22 AM

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Mikono please gtfo, you are the most annoying character in creation. I'm really glad Zessica is fine, looking forward to what will happen in Altair now. Hope Shrade makes it out alive.


 
05-28-12, 4:30 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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In the end, it aired over 1 hours (1 hour 30 mins.) late because of the soccer game, which Japan lost to Egypt.

Battle continues, with Shrade being so excited and other two are feeling that.

Kagura = Amata, and he said no wonder he didn't smell him at all. Kagura was the one who chased mother, them meeting Mikage and stole his memory. Kagura vs Amata made Aquarion awaken. Mikono showed up with Aquarion beside. Mikono's brother also saw the vision that she's with Kagura and behind it's Aquarion. Then Aquarion appeared. Kagura is excited. Eyepatch guy returned when Kagura vs. Amata for Mikono. Amata is struggling.

Green hair girl waking up with Mikage disguising as Amata. She heard the conversation about why Amata wants Mikono (Kagura wanting Mikono for destiny). He overcame his weight power and flew and got Mikono. Though Kagura caught up later, kicked Amata, and caught Mikono, then to Aquarion.

Shrade got exchanged with shy girl. There's some kind of feeling between that little girl and Shrade. Shrade is like a servant to her when she picked him up. Shrade is sacrificing his life to work for her. Amata, green hair girl, and Shrade united and vs. Aquarion. Seal to Aquarion broke and the balance of world broken? Seems like there were some use to Mikage using green hair girl and might be revealed next ep.?

The truth be told next ep. when Mikono's brother team (with shy girl and fujoshi) is back.


LOL a friendly game? How come I didn't notice it?

Ah damn, looks like the truth is being revealed one by another. Can't wait for next ep.
 
05-28-12, 4:52 AM

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drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.


I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.


Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.
 
05-28-12, 5:28 AM

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drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.

I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.
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It's not about him loving her. No one was expecting him to suddenly be obsessed and in love with Zessica. It's a matter of the fact that he should have at least had some human decency. Zessica is supposed to be his friend/ teammate, but did he even show one ounce of concern or sadness for her?

Big, huge ass no.

I understand he has a lot going on his plate, you know with Mikono and Kagura, same old, same old- but could he have at least showed a bit of guilt over Zessica who ended up saving him twice and literally sacrificed herself to save him?

Ugh...
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Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.

Moonlit and fantasticmrfox have said it. Amata just don't give a shit about Zessica's well-being. He just went straight at his love rival, while there lying a girl who got crushed by collapsed structures. That just lacks humanity. So there he goes, FALCON KICK!!
 
05-28-12, 5:51 AM

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The only thing I'm exciting is that fucking blonde haired glasses is gonna die(I hope this time his gone for good) and Kagura saying the most awesome thing in the world "We can kill each other all night long Sylvie"
 
05-28-12, 6:03 AM

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Just saw a more recent sub. He did say "Zessica, thank you" when they combined
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05-28-12, 6:12 AM

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Kagura: " We can kill each other all night long, Sylvie!"
EPIC quote.

Best quote so far XD

And when he kicked Amata off the roof, I can somehow imagine him shouting "DYNAMIC ENTRY!!!1!!11!"
 
05-28-12, 7:24 AM

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Mykage do something for me and kill Mikono.
 
05-28-12, 8:28 AM

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That was cool to use a music from the first Aquarion anime.
 
05-28-12, 10:22 AM

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KaitoDash said:
drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.

I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.
MoonlitKaitou said:
It's not about him loving her. No one was expecting him to suddenly be obsessed and in love with Zessica. It's a matter of the fact that he should have at least had some human decency. Zessica is supposed to be his friend/ teammate, but did he even show one ounce of concern or sadness for her?

Big, huge ass no.

I understand he has a lot going on his plate, you know with Mikono and Kagura, same old, same old- but could he have at least showed a bit of guilt over Zessica who ended up saving him twice and literally sacrificed herself to save him?

Ugh...
_fantasticmrfox said:
Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.

Moonlit and fantasticmrfox have said it. Amata just don't give a shit about Zessica's well-being. He just went straight at his love rival, while there lying a girl who got crushed by collapsed structures. That just lacks humanity. So there he goes, FALCON KICK!!


Personally I don't think he lacks humanity, he sounded glad when he realized that Zessica was alive. And also none of the other characters in the anime noticed that Zessica was gone, they totally forgot about her. Why should Amata care for her when no one else even notice the fact that she wasn't with Amata.

The fact that everyone here rage about Amata not caring enough about Zessica is because everyone is displeased because the girl with the biggest boobs and hint of tsundre personality didn't get the main guy. But that fact ended up to be the only interesting point with this anime in my opinion. The original had originality, Evol is just every stereotype which sells put together into an anime, its like the creators decided to watch every anime on the current top list and decided to take every popular element they could find and make money out of it. They decided to garbage originality.

But in the end it is just a matter of opinions, I often find myself disliking the stuff that mainstream people love, like tsundre girls with big boobs.


 
05-28-12, 10:31 AM

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_fantasticmrfox said:
drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.


I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.


Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.

A more proper and direct translation of what Amata said was: Zessica, you're alright!? With that in mind, it was pretty clear from last episode that he does show some gratitude for a "friend/comrade" when he tried to rescue her, I dunno why this is such a big issue but its very clear that he does show gratitude for her.
 
05-28-12, 10:45 AM

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okay leaving all the romance to the side for a moment.....

WHATS IN AQUARION NOW?? I mean 12,000 years is a long time could their bodies still even exist?? or did they like merge with aquarion?

and I still wanna know what this big promise is about .......=_=


 
05-28-12, 11:32 AM

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ARRRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!WHY IS KAGURA AND ZESSICA STILL ALIVE????????


Btw, I have funny feeling that Zessica is Mikage's tool to acquire the Aqarion.
 
05-28-12, 12:29 PM

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Hmmm.... Kagura can be hard to understand at times since he speaks backwards.

That aside the shows kind of going down the pipe shoot in regards to betraying any character here that I actually care about.
 
05-28-12, 12:57 PM

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drusila said:
KaitoDash said:
drusila said:
bastek66 said:

Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.

I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.
MoonlitKaitou said:
It's not about him loving her. No one was expecting him to suddenly be obsessed and in love with Zessica. It's a matter of the fact that he should have at least had some human decency. Zessica is supposed to be his friend/ teammate, but did he even show one ounce of concern or sadness for her?

Big, huge ass no.

I understand he has a lot going on his plate, you know with Mikono and Kagura, same old, same old- but could he have at least showed a bit of guilt over Zessica who ended up saving him twice and literally sacrificed herself to save him?

Ugh...
_fantasticmrfox said:
Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.

Moonlit and fantasticmrfox have said it. Amata just don't give a shit about Zessica's well-being. He just went straight at his love rival, while there lying a girl who got crushed by collapsed structures. That just lacks humanity. So there he goes, FALCON KICK!!


Personally I don't think he lacks humanity, he sounded glad when he realized that Zessica was alive. And also none of the other characters in the anime noticed that Zessica was gone, they totally forgot about her. Why should Amata care for her when no one else even notice the fact that she wasn't with Amata.

The fact that everyone here rage about Amata not caring enough about Zessica is because everyone is displeased because the girl with the biggest boobs and hint of tsundre personality didn't get the main guy. But that fact ended up to be the only interesting point with this anime in my opinion. The original had originality, Evol is just every stereotype which sells put together into an anime, its like the creators decided to watch every anime on the current top list and decided to take every popular element they could find and make money out of it. They decided to garbage originality.

But in the end it is just a matter of opinions, I often find myself disliking the stuff that mainstream people love, like tsundre girls with big boobs.


No offense, but Zessica isn't a tsundere character- that would be MIX(Y)
Here's a definition- Tsundere is a Japanese character development process that describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time.

If you were to be hating a tsundere character with big boobs (Or ... once with big boobs) than that would be MIX(Y).

Of course people didn't notice Zessica was missing- you think they're going to keep tabs on her every minute? More important issues popped up involving the legendary aquarion, Shrade, etc... They probably thought she was fine- no one knew what happened to her except for Amata, so yeah- I was kind of expecting Amata to have a bit more concern over his friend.

It sounded a bit that Amata had some gratitude, but I believe that was poor writing on the board team of this show. As I have stated, people from all over are raging about this- even people from Japanese and Chinese boards.

And that's very stereotypical behavior of you stating that just because Zessica fans are mad at this scene because she's not getting the main guy is not exactly true. I do like Amata/Zessica and maybe some people are mad about that, but I'm not going to cry if Amata and her don't end up getting together- I never expected them too for a long time now. I'm just displeased because the writers of this show seem to love making Zessica miserable in any way they possibly can. Shipping doesn't always have to be involved.

Though I will agree with you, Sousei no Aquarion was way better than... this >>
 
05-28-12, 3:51 PM

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I don't think the writers changed Zessica over the episodes... she would have this fate since the beginning of the anime, before people decide on which character they liked more, was very clear that Mikono, Kagura and Amata would be the love triangle... early in the anime everyone already suspected that Mikono might be Sylvia, and Kagura and Amata have something to do... if anyone here say that were all surprised by Amata and Kagura be the same person I give a sweet gift. This was already a possible theory for a long time.


I think Kawamori and Co. didn't know Zessica would become so popular. but she is still not the favorite of the public. Yunoha and MIX are the favorites, Yunoha on behalf of Jin and all that "romance" between them and MIX because of fanservice. In Japan most of the audience for this anime are men, not women.


The fact is, Kawamori has not changed anything he wanted to do, even if a character is popular or not ... he killed Jin (the most popular male character), and probably Kagura (also very popular in Japan) will not have a good ending... (which makes me sad, because he's my favorite character and I really want to be wrong). If he decided there in the beginning that he would kill Mikono, he will do. So no use getting angry with the writers, everything was "predestined"... if they did a good job or not is another story.


About Shared, I don't know why everyone is surprised, and revolted, since the beginning everyone knew he was going to die, we just didn't know when and how this will happen.

The latest episodes are ready for sure. Now we just need to wait.

and... EVOL was never intended to be an anime of great repercussion ... Guilty Crown had. Saying that EVOL is the Guilty Crown 2012 is nonsense.
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05-28-12, 4:23 PM

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yaHzee said:
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drusila said:
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Amata says "Oh, you're alive Zessica" - this is biggest factor of storm.


I have to say, that reaction from Amata made my day. Probably many will hating me for writing it but I don't see why Amata HAVE to love Zessica just because she is the popular big boobed lady with green hair.


Not saying he has to love her because she saved him, but at least show some genuine relief or gratitude that a friend/comrade is alright after she put her life on the line to save him.

A more proper and direct translation of what Amata said was: Zessica, you're alright!? With that in mind, it was pretty clear from last episode that he does show some gratitude for a "friend/comrade" when he tried to rescue her, I dunno why this is such a big issue but its very clear that he does show gratitude for her.


I was a little quick to jump the gun. It was much clearer with the subs and he did thank her.
 
05-28-12, 8:36 PM

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So much stuff happening in one episode. Can't wait for the next one haha.
 
05-28-12, 9:56 PM

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AGGHHHH ONLY 4 EPS LEFT!!!!!! oh god no. the origional "gennis of Aquarion" series was a very precious anime to me,but evol OMG this is like 1 million times beter!
i dont want it to end
 
05-28-12, 10:07 PM

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Well, given all the things that were just being thrown at the characters I guess I can see why Amata reacted normal to Zessica being alive. Hopefully, Mikono starts making her own decisions instead of just letting either Amata or Kagura sweep her up while she cries.
 
05-29-12, 1:17 AM

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Personally I don't think he lacks humanity, he sounded glad when he realized that Zessica was alive. And also none of the other characters in the anime noticed that Zessica was gone, they totally forgot about her. Why should Amata care for her when no one else even notice the fact that she wasn't with Amata.

The fact that everyone here rage about Amata not caring enough about Zessica is because everyone is displeased because the girl with the biggest boobs and hint of tsundre personality didn't get the main guy. But that fact ended up to be the only interesting point with this anime in my opinion. The original had originality, Evol is just every stereotype which sells put together into an anime, its like the creators decided to watch every anime on the current top list and decided to take every popular element they could find and make money out of it. They decided to garbage originality.

But in the end it is just a matter of opinions, I often find myself disliking the stuff that mainstream people love, like tsundre girls with big boobs.
I won't try to persuade you about how lame Amata was anymore. But your statements about Zessica raised objections.

First, if I like boobs and tsundere, I would have prefer MIX over Zessica, but that is not the case. I like MIX x Andy pair, because I like Andy's character and think he deserves what he deserves. But MIX alone? Not really like her, she's a whiner with big boobs. TBH, I'd actually prefer pettanko over boobs.

Second, I can't see Zessica as a tsundere. "Tsundere" is more or less the antonym of "Honest". And Zessica is honest no matter which angle you're looking from. I even find Mikono more of a tsundere who can't simply admit her feelings, not to mention she's still hesitating between Kagura and Amata. That irritates me.

Third, I'm not mad that Zessica won't get Amata, because I kinda know all along that it will not happen. I'm perfectly find with any kind of ending except gay thing.
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05-29-12, 5:15 AM

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wonder if Kagura and Amata will become one in the ending lol can't wait for the next episodes looks good i doubt we will get a Zessica and Amata ending!
 
05-29-12, 10:25 AM

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I'm sorry but even if Amata did say thanks, his voice sounded a bit dry, like the tone still felt like "Oh you're alive kay thanks." However, that maybe just me.

I was shipping AmataxZessica for the sake of Zessica, but honestly? She can do a hell of a lot better than him. His character lacks in some traits. I could say that's because it's just half of him due to Kagura.. but even Kagura is a cooler character in every way.


I'm sure the two will probably have to merge, but I hope not as Kagura's character design might get the minority of the new being, which would suck.

I just hope that Mikono does something with her power, and soon, I honestly can't bring myself to like her.

..And they better not be there for too long. I'll really be annoyed if Zessica ends up changing to a dude. -_-
 
05-30-12, 1:48 AM

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Last week:
Amata: Zessica NOOOOOOOO im so upset you died.

One week later:

Amata: DAMN u Kagura im going to show u how awesome i am by flying and saving mikoto only to be kicked once by u and have you fly off.

Zessica: Im back guys!

Amata: Oh...thats cool, thanks for helping i guess.


Seriously this show completely lost all personality once it started getting to the end. No more students no one else exist in this anime god please make it stop.
 
05-30-12, 8:47 PM

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Zessica will heading to the dark side!! God damn it Mykage! I should've known that it was you all along!

Can Amata saves Mikono in time before Kagura kills her?! who knows what will happen next!
 
05-31-12, 5:11 PM

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I uneasy about Shrade! I did not want to see him die! I love it too! I was shocked when I discovered that Amata and Kagura are the same person! oO
Even thought it could be twins ... but they were fragmented by Mikage! He really has no limits!
I fear he will take Zessica!
They may want to kill me if they want, but I wanted to fall in love Mikono by Kagura, he can be rude and crude, but it has its moments "cute" when he is with her. uahsuahs
Poor thing, just because it expresses feelings to the contrary. auhsuahsaus
 
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Next ep is called "Song of legend".
I think that Shrade will die next episode but not before achieving his dream and possibly doing a hard blow on the ennemy side.
 
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i tho Zess was dead already... not like i wanted it but just being crushed like that = goner
then that Mykage appears and say= no no u can't die yet >>>not before u fulfill ur promise to me<<<
which means ... what ? her life will end anyway ?? cuz when the work is done the tool will be useless :|

as for Amata and Kagura ... it looks like they will be fused in one way or another

what i was thinking about is... their mother going to awaken and get some role in the final episodes ?
being a memory and a statue closed in some container for the whole series is no fun :D
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nice episode anyway... 3/5, longing for the continuation
 
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i tho Zess was dead already... not like i wanted it but just being crushed like that = goner
then that Mykage appears and say= no no u can't die yet >>>not before u fulfill ur promise to me<<<
which means ... what ? her life will end anyway ?? cuz when the work is done the tool will be useless :|

as for Amata and Kagura ... it looks like they will be fused in one way or another

what i was thinking about is... their mother going to awaken and get some role in the final episodes ?
being a memory and a statue closed in some container for the whole series is no fun :D


Not sure but I'd take a guess that Alicia might play some larger role in the coming episodes. She's a pretty integral character even without saying anything, plus her seiyuu is Tanaka Rie, so there's no reason to waste that LOL.
 
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You know i don't enjoy watching Evol as much as i enjoy watching Sousei no Aquarion. I keep watching it because it is Aquarion. From the first episode i already hate Mikono.

After some time Mikono got her own power and i started to accept her as a character, but this episode lol. WTF Amata got owned by Kagura, and you can only cries, like damsel in distress. Can not even decide who you want to be Amata or Kagura. Bitch! i dislike girl who can not decide. Yet when ever Amata around Zessica she got jealous and such.

I mean it is so painful to watch the characters and everything. The only thing that keep me going is only Aquarion lol. I like to see the gattai and new attack each week. Other than that god... Evol must have a large fan hater based lol espeially Mikono.
 
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Finally Mykage is going to reveal the promise that he's making Zessica fulfill, been waiting to see what this is all about. Hope it doesn't end up doing anything bad for her. Ugh smh at that reaction from Amata when he saw her again... seriously? After all that had happened?

=/ Doesn't look like Shrade is going to get through this alive, its gunna be sad when he completes his song.
 
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I've been stalking this forum and Animesuki for awhile now, but I felt obligated to register to bring up a point:

If Mikono and Amata did not say each other's name repeatedly in typical anime fashion, would you hate them nearly as much as you do right now? After following Bleach and, like everyone else, being driven to insanity by "Kurosaki-kun!" I wonder if the writing/directing choice made Orihime, a passive character a la Miknon, more hated than she deserved. The Mikono hate, given the show's detail of her character type and how that has shifted, is unjustified if we look past "Amata-kun!"

And frankly, I don't get the Zessica love. She chooses the most ridiculous ways to express affection to Amata, who is obviously Mikono-sexual. On that note, why not have a shot with Shrade, Cayene, or even Mallory, all of whom are clearly NOT involved in a 12,000 year old relationship?

As for Amata, we know he's a bit dull now because Kagura has his mojo. Seeing Amata struggle past that should elicit more sympathy, not less.

Looking forward to ep. 23.
 
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Deathtoheaven said:
I've been stalking this forum and Animesuki for awhile now, but I felt obligated to register to bring up a point:

If Mikono and Amata did not say each other's name repeatedly in typical anime fashion, would you hate them nearly as much as you do right now? After following Bleach and, like everyone else, being driven to insanity by "Kurosaki-kun!" I wonder if the writing/directing choice made Orihime, a passive character a la Miknon, more hated than she deserved. The Mikono hate, given the show's detail of her character type and how that has shifted, is unjustified if we look past "Amata-kun!"

And frankly, I don't get the Zessica love. She chooses the most ridiculous ways to express affection to Amata, who is obviously Mikono-sexual. On that note, why not have a shot with Shrade, Cayene, or even Mallory, all of whom are clearly NOT involved in a 12,000 year old relationship?

As for Amata, we know he's a bit dull now because Kagura has his mojo. Seeing Amata struggle past that should elicit more sympathy, not less.

Looking forward to ep. 23.


I don't know about some people, but I'm not overly fond of Mikono's character because she doesn't really do anything. I don't hate her character at all, but I don't love her either- she has definitely gotten a bit better since episode 1, but after episode 22 her character left a bad taste in my mouth. She went on this journey with Fudo and it seemed like she would finally go do something, but doesn't... instead when Kagura and Amata are fighting all she does is sit on top of the tower like a prize and yell at them... why didn't she try to do something? Then she lets herself get kidnapped by Kagura without even putting up one ounce of a fight... she could have kicked, screamed, something! But no- she just does nothing. I'm hoping that she will do something in these remaining episodes- like I said I don't nearly dislike her as much as I did at the beginning of the series and I'm hoping that something amazing will become of her character.

What did you mean by Zessica love? Do you mean you don't understand why people love Zessica or do you mean you don't understand why Zessica loves Amata?

I personally don't love Zessica's character as much as I did at the beginning, but I still like her character a bit.
I wouldn't say she expresses her love in ridiculous ways- she does it like any normal person would. She confesses, gives him a kiss, tries to start her own 12,000 year legend with Amata... how is any of this ridiculous, I don't understand? Although if I had my way, I would have rather her not have fallen in love with Amata because she becomes so love struck with him that she lost a lot of that Zest that made me like her character so much at the beginning of the series.

Now for Amata... well you're right- he's dull and boring. He's completely Mikono-sexual and it just annoys me to no end. I don't really sympathize with his character because to be honest, I just can't bring myself too.

As for Kagura... I don't hate or dislike his character- he's just there I guess, lol xP

My favorite character is Sazanka- there needs to be more screen time given to this rotten girl :D - I'm slightly looking forward to the next episode, I'm just hoping it will be a lot better then this episode >>
 
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My favorite character is Sazanka- there needs to be more screen time given to this rotten girl :D

High five! :D
 
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Deathtoheaven said:
I've been stalking this forum and Animesuki for awhile now, but I felt obligated to register to bring up a point:

If Mikono and Amata did not say each other's name repeatedly in typical anime fashion, would you hate them nearly as much as you do right now? After following Bleach and, like everyone else, being driven to insanity by "Kurosaki-kun!" I wonder if the writing/directing choice made Orihime, a passive character a la Miknon, more hated than she deserved. The Mikono hate, given the show's detail of her character type and how that has shifted, is unjustified if we look past "Amata-kun!"

And frankly, I don't get the Zessica love. She chooses the most ridiculous ways to express affection to Amata, who is obviously Mikono-sexual. On that note, why not have a shot with Shrade, Cayene, or even Mallory, all of whom are clearly NOT involved in a 12,000 year old relationship?

As for Amata, we know he's a bit dull now because Kagura has his mojo. Seeing Amata struggle past that should elicit more sympathy, not less.

Looking forward to ep. 23.

I don't know about some people, but I'm not overly fond of Mikono's character because she doesn't really do anything. I don't hate her character at all, but I don't love her either- she has definitely gotten a bit better since episode 1, but after episode 22 her character left a bad taste in my mouth. She went on this journey with Fudo and it seemed like she would finally go do something, but doesn't... instead when Kagura and Amata are fighting all she does is sit on top of the tower like a prize and yell at them... why didn't she try to do something? Then she lets herself get kidnapped by Kagura without even putting up one ounce of a fight... she could have kicked, screamed, something! But no- she just does nothing. I'm hoping that she will do something in these remaining episodes- like I said I don't nearly dislike her as much as I did at the beginning of the series and I'm hoping that something amazing will become of her character.

Fair enough, I'm puzzled by the lack of resistance toward Kagura but he may just have too great powers of charm for her to resist for all we know.
What did you mean by Zessica love? Do you mean you don't understand why people love Zessica or do you mean you don't understand why Zessica loves Amata?

The former. Mikono is established as a character with significant room to improve, while Zessica can only go downward and subsequently recover. However, she has only gone downhill, and it's not bad writing in my opinion, it's actually a very realistic decline. I think Zessica is very relateable, but should not be loved.
I personally don't love Zessica's character as much as I did at the beginning, but I still like her character a bit.
I wouldn't say she expresses her love in ridiculous ways- she does it like any normal person would. She confesses, gives him a kiss, tries to start her own 12,000 year legend with Amata... how is any of this ridiculous, I don't understand? Although if I had my way, I would have rather her not have fallen in love with Amata because she becomes so love struck with him that she lost a lot of that Zest that made me like her character so much at the beginning of the series.

Her methods are not as ridiculous as the situations she chooses to initiate them in. You would never guess she was a professional combatant.
Now for Amata... well you're right- he's dull and boring. He's completely Mikono-sexual and it just annoys me to no end. I don't really sympathize with his character because to be honest, I just can't bring myself too.

And I do think that was part of the idea behind Evol's writing. Apollo, being an a-typical well-done take on an anime main hero, set the bar really high and any reincarnation or whatever was automatically going to been completely overshadowed, so the writers took away Amata's charisma and made Kagura to emphasize that shadow and drive the plot.

Amata was deliberately set at a low bar from the beginning, but I have a lot of respect for his "Mikono is sexy because she's Mikono, not because fate says so" speech. He and Cayene are the only characters who actually appreciate her for who she is now. Not even my favorite character, Fudo, does this.

I imagine Mykage wants Zessica to seduce Amata in front of Mikono to push her to Kagura, so Mykage, Kagura, and Mikono can have some perverse gattai meant to convert Altair into New Atlantia or something. My hope is that Amata will deliver a rebuff to Zessica that not only makes Mikono faint from saying "Amata-kun!" for the umpteenth time but snaps Zessica out of her demented outlook.
As for Kagura... I don't hate or dislike his character- he's just there I guess, lol xP

I hope I'm not the only one who finds his hax to be a benefit to the writing. I can't wait to see how that power works against Izumo's.
My favorite character is Sazanka- there needs to be more screen time given to this rotten girl :D - I'm slightly looking forward to the next episode, I'm just hoping it will be a lot better then this episode >>

I hope Sazanka, Cayene, and Yunoha join Spada with their own Gerpald. :)
 
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I'll get rid of him, and then we can kill each other all night long!


Ya, you know what he really means there ;)
 
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Wow Amata you could care even a little that Zessican survived. Why does she even like this douchebag? Oh yeah he's too busy fighting himself (literally) to really care about anything.

I freaking hate Mikage though. Him and his hacks powers.
 
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He didn't mean sex at all!!
Shrade and Loli gal hmmm.. I keep wondering about it

AHAHA interesting finally the secret next ep!!

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Hm. I guess Zessica did survive. LOL how could i possibly forget that she has her powers? I wonder why she hadn't used it before until the recent episodes, because that sure as hell would've helpful when they were fighting the abductors.

If Kagura and Amata are technically the same person, I don't understand why Kagura has more right than Amata to take Mikono. They're both essentially Apollo, so besides the similarity between Kagura and Apollo's personalities, there's not real reason for Kagura to say that Amata and Mikono aren't fated...right? Meh, I haven't watched the prequel so I don't really know anything.
 
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I hate that they make characters so irritating and grotesque like Kagura, since I know that later on you have to swallow the crap that they're actually good in their hearts and some sort of "let's be friends and understand each other crap". At least with Mykage you know he's plain eveil and he will die or at least fail. Yeah, I know Amata is a complete wimp and Mikono is the damsel in distress too so they don't win any points either.

More humour and less drama please. And more Mix and Andy.
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"I'll get rid of him and then we can kill each other all night long." LMAO!!
Kagura speaking in opposites is hilarious!

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Everyone complaining about Kagura but to me Amata is a far worse character. All he does is shout Mikono-san, Mikono-san, Mikono-san, Mikono-san!!!!! Even he's personality is so dam weak. He didn't even answer Zessica's feelings properly, what a ass. Also I feel like they butchered Zessica's character as well, she started out strong and fun now she's just another weak girl..
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