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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 232 | 76.82% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 54 | 17.88% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 10 | 3.31% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 3 | 0.99% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 3 | 0.99% |
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05-26-12, 11:26 AM
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itsvero said: HA. I told you it wasn't Rider who kidnapped Irisviel! Well, just... Kariya. I don't have much to say, but he flippin' snapped there! And honestly I feel so terrible for what he's gone through. It'd be hard retaining your mental state with all that crap that he had to deal with. And making Aoi come, that's just pure evil. What Kirei was saying about the wine, he's saying about doing evil - he's liking it. Ugh. Hate that guy with every fiber of my being. And Zouken, well, fuck him! Kirei and him should just go elope or something, on the grounds of their evilness. Oh, also agree that I do NOT want to see Rider and Waver go... I just can't imagine them dying. My heart would break. Yeah I hate Kirei too but I love the part in FSN where he Modified by ssjokg, 05-26-12, 11:33 AM  |
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05-26-12, 11:38 AM
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ssjokg said: So much win! WOW! Amazing speech.Yumekichi11 said: belatkuro said: I assume it will be MORE GLORIOUS in the BDs. Movement and SFX wise at least.That chase. Compressed a lot of pages of Gen describing the V-Max and all its movements. That said, I wished the chase was a bit longer. Saber finding a boulder ramp all of a sudden seems...sudden. It was thrilling nonetheless. And lots of eyecandy too. belatkuro said: Obviously BDs will put more of that, right?Oh Kirei. You and your trolling. The comments were all saying, "Rejoice Kariya!" The conversation with Zouken was missing something belatkuro said: Can someone PLEASE PUT THAT FROM THE LN! Thank you! I always read all your spoiler stuff in terms of that.but eh, complaining will get me nowhere, though it will make the next episodes seems out of place if you haven't read the FSN VN. it was missing a lot.Actually they cut the most important thing.Probably this will be like the 11 ep of the first season. belatkuro said: So I see now. That makes more sense. I am wondering if that is only known to Zouken or other ones are aware of this. Clearly it's worrisome.@Yumekichi |
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05-26-12, 11:54 AM
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Another great episode. The chariot was toasted. Excalibur is amazing! But I am glad that team Rider lives on to see another week. My favourite team by a long shot! Saber riding her super awesome invisible air modified bike was totally made of win. But I didn't recall the guy being tortured by Kiritsugu, did they show him some time during the first half of the series? Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. I knew all along that Aoi would die, because I already knew in FSN that both of Rin's parents had passed away by the time Rin became one of the most amazing tsundere ever, but to know she died at the hand of Kariya, I was left saddened to the point I wished I didn't see this episode. 4 more episodes to go and I see Shirou has been listed in the series cast list. I can now safely think the anime will end where FSN kick's off.  |
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05-26-12, 11:55 AM
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Yumekichi11 said: ]So I see now. That makes more sense. I am wondering if that is only known to Zouken or other ones are aware of this. Clearly it's worrisome. Looking at the actions of all the other Masters(expect for Caster's of course) they clearly dont. |
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05-26-12, 12:05 PM
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Actually I believe there won't be any epic fights next episode. I might be wrong, but there simply won't be enough room for that. They will most probably just animate the whole of Act 15. I was confused myself about it, because of Archer's line in preview about "not holding back", but then I remembered |
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05-26-12, 12:06 PM
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shanimebib said: Another great episode. The chariot was toasted. Excalibur is amazing! But I am glad that team Rider lives on to see another week. My favourite team by a long shot! Saber riding her super awesome invisible air modified bike was totally made of win. But I didn't recall the guy being tortured by Kiritsugu, did they show him some time during the first half of the series? Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. I knew all along that Aoi would die, because I already knew in FSN that both of Rin's parents had passed away by the time Rin became one of the most amazing tsundere ever, but to know she died at the hand of Kariya, I was left saddened to the point I wished I didn't see this episode. 4 more episodes to go and I see Shirou has been listed in the series cast list. I can now safely think the anime will end where FSN kick's off. And that's why we say that FSN doesnt spoil FZ to the point you wont enjoy it. And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for That guy is Byakuya,Kariya's brother and Shinji's father. |
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05-26-12, 12:08 PM
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LostHanyou said: I never read the LN, but Kariya's one-sided crush on Aoi and other things you mentioned were quite clear to me at least. Didn't feel like I missed out anything.The scene with Kariya-Aoi was my favorite part in the LN. I didn't like it so much here, though. First of all, a lot of the background info is ignored (Aoi and Kariya's relationship most importantly). Also, in the LN, Kariya chokes Aoi in a fit of madness, NOT INTENTIONALLY!! Once he realizes what he's doing he flips out and stops. I have no idea why the hell they made it seem like he was doing it intentionally here. It's also more obvious that Aoi is alive in the LN... Jeez, these guys at Ufotable must really hate Kariya. But yeah, the chase was cool and all, but Kariya's scene was definitely the best part. You can really see the similarity between the master and the servant there. |
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05-26-12, 12:32 PM
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Saber's motorcycle scene was epic; but dang Kariya is freaken broken now; the only "good" in all of this is that it seems that Kiritsugu figured it out, or at least the majority of it, a Kiritsugu vs Kirei fight is inevitable; but a Archer vs Rider fight would be awesome first.  |
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05-26-12, 12:46 PM
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shanimebib said: Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. He Won't Die In This Series. As You Can See That He Easily Escaped From Kirei's Attack. Besides, ssjokg said: And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for It Seems Unlikely. Modified by Tennouji_, 05-26-12, 12:49 PM  I know I'm popular but why did you do this to me Photobucket? (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻ |
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05-26-12, 12:48 PM
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http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8047824234442107129#allposts ^thoughts and stuff here Random points: -Saber's excaliber power up was rather quick this time. Same pose, animations, but in bullet time :O. -Kariya's strangling Aoi scene was done nicely with the flashes of black and white, but I wish they showed more of their background than just her face smiling. -It's a shame we all know Zouken will not die (he is in F/SN >_>) |
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05-26-12, 12:50 PM
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CharbbyLoves said: shanimebib said: Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. He Won't Die In This Series. As You Can See That He Easily Escaped From Kirei's Attack. ssjokg said: And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for It Seems Unlikely. at least let me dream about it |
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05-26-12, 1:19 PM
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Damn, from the chase at the beginning to Aoi's death by choking and everything in between. Great episode! Nice try Kirei but Zouken won't go down that easily...  |
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05-26-12, 1:25 PM
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ssjokg said: CharbbyLoves said: shanimebib said: Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. He Won't Die In This Series. As You Can See That He Easily Escaped From Kirei's Attack. ssjokg said: And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for It Seems Unlikely. at least let me dream about it As much as having one would make my day since HF is my favorite route, I'd rather not get one if it's another lackluster DEEN anime. Ufotable doing it would be great though, as long as it gets more than just a movie. |
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05-26-12, 1:32 PM
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dio_brando86 said: ssjokg said: CharbbyLoves said: shanimebib said: Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. He Won't Die In This Series. As You Can See That He Easily Escaped From Kirei's Attack. ssjokg said: And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for It Seems Unlikely. at least let me dream about it As much as having one would make my day since HF is my favorite route, I'd rather not get one if it's another lackluster DEEN anime. Ufotable doing it would be great though, as long as it gets more than just a movie. I have no dream for a deen adaption.more like nightmares.And ufotable being a clever studio(unlike Deen) wouldnt make the biggest route a 1-2 hour movie.thats why I said in the end of this anime.Something like showing Modified by ssjokg, 05-26-12, 1:38 PM |
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05-26-12, 1:40 PM
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ssjokg said: ssjokg said: Sakura 9-10 years later and some speech from Zouken to make you wait for HF.That's one big dream huh?dio_brando86 said: ssjokg said: CharbbyLoves said: shanimebib said: Next comes that bastard Zouken. I hope he gets the most pathetic death ever. He is the real scumbag in the anime alongside Caster and Ryuunusuke. He Won't Die In This Series. As You Can See That He Easily Escaped From Kirei's Attack. ssjokg said: And I hope they dont show anything from FSN except for It Seems Unlikely. at least let me dream about it As much as having one would make my day since HF is my favorite route, I'd rather not get one if it's another lackluster DEEN anime. Ufotable doing it would be great though, as long as it gets more than just a movie. I have no dream for a deen adaption.more like nightmares.And ufotable being a clever studio(unlike Deen) wouldnt make the biggest route a 1-2 hour movie.thats why I said in the end of this anime.Something like showing I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Haha. I agree. DEEN almost ruined it, ufotable revived it. Let's hope to see more from ufotable in the coming years. |
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05-26-12, 1:45 PM
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shanimebib said: I never realized that Shinji was Zouken's relative. Now it all makes sense. But I wonder whether he went through the same bug treatment as in the cases of Kariya and Sakura. Nope he was as useless as his father,no reason for training.But he ,as you know , |
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05-26-12, 2:02 PM
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Damn is everyone gonna get killed off now? its been nothing but deaths for 2 straight episodes |
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05-26-12, 2:04 PM
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Well this episode was pretty much a success. The coolest thing I liked was Saber- Rider duel and how Saber was riding dat motorcycle, SUGOI. Next - excalibur in all its power and Rider team living for another week (my favourite team so far). The thing I didn't like was Karyia killing Aoi, but shit happens, poor Rin though. Gotta hate Kirei-Giglamesh and the other bastard - Zouken. Sooooo, we are going to see a splendid episode next time hopefully (Rider- Giglamesh, Rider's Noble Phantasm anyone against Giglamesh anyone?). Sore Wa Himitsu Desu |
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05-26-12, 2:07 PM
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Totentanz said: So, Kirei finds a soulmate in Zouken, though it doesn't appear like he rejoices in this discovery, which is understandable. It seems not even Kirei is a match for a man sadistic enough to take pleasure in his own son's misfortune. Eh, Shirou's Kotomine's 'soulmate'. Both are empty men, if they find happiness in different means. Also Zouken? He's actually nicer than the guy who hired Kiritsugu. Totentanz said: Once again it shows what a despicable being Gilgamesh is, reducing humans to mere tools for his entertainment and dismissing the tragedy unfolding before his very eyes as a poor first attempt of his servant, because that's what Kirei is in the end, just another pawn in the game. Not at all. Gilgamesh is kind and generous with his people. Kotomine happens to qualify (so did Tokiomi, but he wasn't a loved subject). This is important for his happiness, so he's teaching him how to enjoy himself after a life of nothing but endless emptiness and suffering. Kirei is far bigger antagonist than Gilgamesh is in FSN, in the end. Gilgamesh only steps on his game if Kirei dies. He likes the guy and wants to oversee his success. Modified by Thess, 05-26-12, 2:11 PM |
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05-26-12, 2:08 PM
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Hydnlife said: Damn is everyone gonna get killed off now? its been nothing but deaths for 2 straight episodes I didn't read the LN, but judging by Fate Stay Night, I guess: Sore Wa Himitsu Desu |