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May 25, 2012 6:49 PM
#61
BXRBudda said: Let's be patient people. The E7 anime didn't really hit its stride until about 15 episodes in so let's not judge this one too harshly. We as the audience can only hope and pray that the story does improve. I agree, so many people are jumping the gun on this series. Yeah, maybe I don't particularly like AO right now, but just in the way it is set up anyone that is capable of thought could guess that there is still some unknown card yet to be played. Maybe I'll end up disappointed, but it's better than being the moron that drops it without being reasonable enough to give it a chance. |
May 25, 2012 7:23 PM
#62
There's a lot of negativity here, however we should be patient. At least there are dots being connected here, that should be taken into account. BXRBudda said: Btw I bet that Truth guy is either a human secret or Ao from the future. Budda, I'm willing to bet that Truth is a humanoid Secret more than the second option. lol But why would you think that? |
May 25, 2012 7:34 PM
#63
This series lacks a lot of things and I'm not just saying that because I enjoyed the first season. It's becoming a growing trend, like Wakka pointed out, to make shows all actions with no substance. This show is a clear example of that. The story is lacking in a major way. E7 at least had a direction from the get go...this...not so much. I couldn't care less what happens to Naru or AO or anyone for that matter and that's a bad thing. There's no character attachment or development AT ALL right now and with a short series like this I can already tell it's gonna fall short because of it. E7's slow ass pace was packed with vital character development which made the ending that much more sweeter because we felt like we knew the characters. |
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May 25, 2012 7:54 PM
#64
Wow, crazy shit just went down and it got more confusing than it was before. |
May 25, 2012 8:27 PM
#65
I liked this episode, especially the dream sequences. They reminded me of UN-GO's two-parter episode with the jail/dead director. Both UN-GO and E7 AO are written by Shou Aikawa, who I think is a much much better writer than Dai Sato: mainly because the political commentary is very spot-on. 'm guessing what happened w/ Truth, Naru and AO was a dream but I'm curious as to what role Naru will really serve in the coming episodes. Some guesses: --Return of theEND? Getting rid of 'that' could mean theEND or Nirvash, especially since we saw a fuzzy pic of type-0 before the ED. --Truth must be a humanized coralian or a humanized secret or even a hybrid of the two. I'm leaning towards Coralian as he knows about Eureka. --I'm starting to believe there's more than one Eureka, and the whole "sequel vs. alternate story" debate has some merits. TL;DR: Sho Aikawa > Dai Sato |
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May 25, 2012 9:07 PM
#66
webkid94 said: TL;DR: Sho Aikawa > Dai Sato I agree with you. I feel like I'm one of the few who is enjoying this a lot more than the original E7. I think a lot of fans are mad that it's different from the original, but that's exactly what I wanted. E7 had a good story despite being a clone of Evangelion, but it did not need to be 50 episodes. A much better story could have been told in half the time. The writing for Un-Go was spectacular as well. The mysteries could have been more fleshed out, but the social commentary was great. |
May 25, 2012 9:24 PM
#67
I'm just curious as to how this world seems to have decades of history, while it's been assumed that 15-20 years have passed because of Ao's age and Eureka's appearance. I also want to know when/if Renton will ever be brought into the story because it seems to be all about him finding his mother... Is he not curious about his dad? |
May 25, 2012 9:47 PM
#68
I agree with most that this episode does feel a little bit abrupt, however I finally feel as if we are getting somewhere and/or being told the actually plot of the show. I did comment on the last episode thread that I am in full support of Truth being a humanoid Secret, and will continue to stick by this notion until told outright otherwise. The dreamscaping thing became tricksy and it was tedious to follow. This is probably one of the more difficult episodes, but the music was beautiful and it was still gorgeous. I also think a lot of people are taking the connection to the original ES a little too seriously and it is sort of irritating me. As a HUGE fan of the original series, which I deem to be flawless and number one of my list, I think people are getting a little turned around. It was the build up and the learning curve applied to ES that made it so beautiful. It had up moments and down moments and I would expect nothing less from something the same title is applied to. However, despite the whole 'sequel' thing I feel that Astral Ocean is much more of a spin-off than anything else. It is its own story and I look forward to running with it. That being said, I wonder if we are being too critical of AO so early on. It's only episode 7 after all... at least we're going to get a decent show! Unlike all those unfinished stupid 13 episode shorts thatve been popping up everywhere because they're too lazy to dedicate a real show to anything. (There are good 13 episode animes, like Baccano, that were MADE for that length, but lately I've been seeing a lot of bullshit anime made for the sake of pure fanservice that are nothing but crap tbh.) If Naru's illness is from the scub coral, why is she okay around them but not anywhere else? And did she betray Ao, or does she simply not think Truth is the bad guy? Is he? What is the point of Mirror? I hope they let us know soon~ |
May 25, 2012 10:18 PM
#70
I just wanna say: I actually enjoyed this episode. For once this episode made me feel like there might just be a plot worth watching. Who cares if for now the dreams were disjointed, sure they were obviously misplaced, but you have to accept it for now as there's a good chance it will be explained later. My only complaints are with Truth. My first thought was why is there a bell around his neck? So, I'm going to wait on him as well as almost the rest of the characters for decent character development. Another thought, why does it matter if it doesn't feel like the original series. Even if it's a sequel or spin-off there is no requirement for similarity except in universe. For those who say they're dropping this show, I think you should wait. Heck, as others have already pointed out, we're only seven episodes in. fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? This made me go back and double check the episode. Maybe it's a foreshadow of a future modification of the current Nirvash. |
May 25, 2012 10:21 PM
#71
Macklovin said: BXRBudda said: Let's be patient people. The E7 anime didn't really hit its stride until about 15 episodes in so let's not judge this one too harshly. We as the audience can only hope and pray that the story does improve. I agree, so many people are jumping the gun on this series. Yeah, maybe I don't particularly like AO right now, but just in the way it is set up anyone that is capable of thought could guess that there is still some unknown card yet to be played. Maybe I'll end up disappointed, but it's better than being the moron that drops it without being reasonable enough to give it a chance. Yeah I mean I think lots of the questions we have will be answered as we continue watching. I was a bit confused, yes, with the dream sequence, but I'm sure they'll explain why these things are happening. I'm def not going to drop it because: 1. I'm a big EUREKA SEVEN fan 2. It seems like a good anime 3. There are too many questions I want answered, and I'm gonna watch to know. |
May 25, 2012 10:31 PM
#72
fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? Wow... that is strange. However, look at any other scene in the dream sequence with Ao piloting; it reverts back to the normal cockpit. I'm wondering if it was an animation slip-up, or if there's really something going on here with this. I'm probably gonna go with the former, as it was extremely abrupt, and never showed itself again. Actually, I'm wondering if BONES unintentionally spoiled us with this - perhaps the Nirvash gets an "upgrade" later on, and one of the animators accidentally used a cockpit design that wasn't meant to be seen till later. Very interesting, and good catch. |
May 25, 2012 10:48 PM
#73
Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? Wow... that is strange. However, look at any other scene in the dream sequence with Ao piloting; it reverts back to the normal cockpit. I'm wondering if it was an animation slip-up, or if there's really something going on here with this. I'm probably gonna go with the former, as it was extremely abrupt, and never showed itself again. Actually, I'm wondering if BONES unintentionally spoiled us with this - perhaps the Nirvash gets an "upgrade" later on, and one of the animators accidentally used a cockpit design that wasn't meant to be seen till later. Very interesting, and good catch. About 5-10 seconds later: I don't know, it all just seems too deliberate to me to be an animation error/slip-up. |
May 25, 2012 11:01 PM
#74
fdsfgs said: Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? Wow... that is strange. However, look at any other scene in the dream sequence with Ao piloting; it reverts back to the normal cockpit. I'm wondering if it was an animation slip-up, or if there's really something going on here with this. I'm probably gonna go with the former, as it was extremely abrupt, and never showed itself again. Actually, I'm wondering if BONES unintentionally spoiled us with this - perhaps the Nirvash gets an "upgrade" later on, and one of the animators accidentally used a cockpit design that wasn't meant to be seen till later. Very interesting, and good catch. About 5-10 seconds later: I don't know, it all just seems too deliberate to me to be an animation error/slip-up. Currently in another discussion, regarding the same topic - I agree, it seems too deliberate. Both the flight-form and humanoid form differ greatly in design from the Type I Ao is currently piloting. Gif: |
DangerrMay 25, 2012 11:08 PM
May 25, 2012 11:15 PM
#75
Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? Wow... that is strange. However, look at any other scene in the dream sequence with Ao piloting; it reverts back to the normal cockpit. I'm wondering if it was an animation slip-up, or if there's really something going on here with this. I'm probably gonna go with the former, as it was extremely abrupt, and never showed itself again. Actually, I'm wondering if BONES unintentionally spoiled us with this - perhaps the Nirvash gets an "upgrade" later on, and one of the animators accidentally used a cockpit design that wasn't meant to be seen till later. Very interesting, and good catch. About 5-10 seconds later: I don't know, it all just seems too deliberate to me to be an animation error/slip-up. Currently in another discussion, regarding the same topic - I agree, it seems too deliberate. Both the flight-form and humanoid form differ greatly in design from the Type I Ao is currently piloting. Gif: Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Dangerr said: fdsfgs said: Anyone else notice this? Wow... that is strange. However, look at any other scene in the dream sequence with Ao piloting; it reverts back to the normal cockpit. I'm wondering if it was an animation slip-up, or if there's really something going on here with this. I'm probably gonna go with the former, as it was extremely abrupt, and never showed itself again. Actually, I'm wondering if BONES unintentionally spoiled us with this - perhaps the Nirvash gets an "upgrade" later on, and one of the animators accidentally used a cockpit design that wasn't meant to be seen till later. Very interesting, and good catch. About 5-10 seconds later: I don't know, it all just seems too deliberate to me to be an animation error/slip-up. Currently in another discussion, regarding the same topic - I agree, it seems too deliberate. Both the flight-form and humanoid form differ greatly in design from the Type I Ao is currently piloting. Gif: I see you're in that thread as well. Not only that, but after Nirvash transforms it's pretty different from the normal Mark I as well - with said differences being consistent in pretty much every shot. Edit: Nevermind the design is in a state of flux throughout the episode. It still seems deliberate to be QUALITY/animation mishaps, though. |
fdsfgsMay 25, 2012 11:19 PM
May 26, 2012 12:24 AM
#76
Naru just became ..... gah im not even going to bother saying it -_____________- |
May 26, 2012 12:36 AM
#77
EternalStarlight said: Naru just became ..... gah im not even going to bother saying it -_____________- Given that it all happened in a dream I'd say that it's likely she didn't. That portion of the dream was projecting Ao's insecurities and the fact that he's feeling pretty dominated by Truth. Still Naru is with Truth now. We won't know if it was willingly or if he kidnapped her until we get more episodes. |
fdsfgsMay 26, 2012 12:42 AM
May 26, 2012 1:20 AM
#78
I honestly don't know why so many people are whinging about E7:AO. I honestly rate AO higher than the original E7 at the minute IMO. A few answers. Mirror wasn't killed by Truth, because he did not need to. You misunderstand Truth. Truth, much like his name suggests, appears to be working on a completely different plane to all the other characters; what appears good and evil to the Gen Blue people, probably aren't even a factor to Truth. Truth is merely looking desperately for answers. What answers? We will find out, but it will no doubt be related to why he exists like he does now. The fact that people are saying that this story is bad because of plot holes is (1) wrong, and (2) hypocritical. People must have short memory, because even E7 had its share of plot holes + filler episodes. Plus I wouldn't really call certain parts plot holes. Just because an episode doesn't answer every question/problem it raises, does not mean it fails. Funnily enough, its actually a thing called suspense, anticipation and revelation. Those who drop it early, I honestly don't know why. The plot feels tight and sharp, yet pretty pacey. Plus I like the fact that AO feels darker - it reminds me so much of Xam'd - which is easily my fave series. |
May 26, 2012 4:00 AM
#79
Now after seeing all that different Nirvash forms my mind is full of fuck. |
May 26, 2012 4:17 AM
#80
Don't worry Ao, even if Naru doesn't come back, you still have Fleur. :P |
MagitoMay 26, 2012 4:21 AM
May 26, 2012 4:42 AM
#81
May 26, 2012 5:12 AM
#82
jakeisquite said: A sequel is not just limited to a continuation of a show. You can't argue with that, regardless of what you think a sequel is, this is a sequel having direct relation to the past series (with nirvash, scub corals, and eureka). Plus the show has more than half the way to go, don't get your panties in a bunch because there's nothing super solid that links it to the past series yet. Oh, and anyone who really expected this to be exactly like the first E7 is a complete idiot. Different cast, in the distant future (at least a 15 year skip or however old AO is) so this obviously WASN'T going to be E7. Idiots need to realize that a sequel of this nature will more than likely have a different feel than previous series. The main problem with this anime is not that it's completely different from prequel, but that it's totally fucked up, too much nonsense. Plus characters are absolutely uninteresting. Main cast especially. I don't know about others but as for me I didn't expect it to be same as original series, but to be as good as prequel was. E7 caught my interest from the beginning, while I watch E7 AO only because I hope that it will get better :< |
May 26, 2012 5:33 AM
#83
Lolitha said: The main problem with this anime is not that it's completely different from prequel, but that it's totally fucked up, too much nonsense. Plus characters are absolutely uninteresting. Main cast especially. I don't know about others but as for me I didn't expect it to be same as original series, but to be as good as prequel was. E7 caught my interest from the beginning, while I watch E7 AO only because I hope that it will get better :< I'm of the opinion that you can't do crap with 24 eps, sadly. By the end of this sequel we will prolly get answers and explanations to many question from both E7 and AO but I doubt we'll be seeing any big character development :(. E7 did have a rather slow pace and some even say that the story could've been told in half the eps and be just as good if not better, but if it was that like that we would've missed out all the character development, which in the end is the essence of that show. But there is still 17 eps left and time will tell. I watch AO cuz it's fun but the character development is killing me :| I liked Ivica and Gazel from the beggining but there is no god damn development. We know jack shit about them :\ Ah I know ! WTB SOCCER EPS FOR AO !!!!!!!!!11 |
May 26, 2012 5:39 AM
#84
Mattafix (from yesterday I think) I completely agree with you and am glad there are people that see it this way! ^^ --- Also, wow that cockpit catch was a NICE one! Now I'm all excited to see the people who are supposed to be sitting in those dream seats~ |
May 26, 2012 5:56 AM
#85
triforcebih said: Lolitha said: The main problem with this anime is not that it's completely different from prequel, but that it's totally fucked up, too much nonsense. Plus characters are absolutely uninteresting. Main cast especially. I don't know about others but as for me I didn't expect it to be same as original series, but to be as good as prequel was. E7 caught my interest from the beginning, while I watch E7 AO only because I hope that it will get better :< I'm of the opinion that you can't do crap with 24 eps, sadly. By the end of this sequel we will prolly get answers and explanations to many question from both E7 and AO but I doubt we'll be seeing any big character development :(. E7 did have a rather slow pace and some even say that the story could've been told in half the eps and be just as good if not better, but if it was that like that we would've missed out all the character development, which in the end is the essence of that show. But there is still 17 eps left and time will tell. I watch AO cuz it's fun but the character development is killing me :| I liked Ivica and Gazel from the beggining but there is no god damn development. We know jack shit about them : Ah I know ! WTB SOCCER EPS FOR AO !!!!!!!!!11 Agree completely, there are fine examples how story can't be told in few eps. There is nothing worse than rushed story >:( those people are wrong. E7 had really interesting characters and development made them even better. E7 AO is not character wise and development would be the only cute to that but as you said if there will not be any.... that would be disappointment. Yay for soccer ep, it was great. |
May 26, 2012 6:12 AM
#86
I'm not getting anything at all. |
Apologies, I just can't avoid to rant. |
May 26, 2012 7:40 AM
#87
May 26, 2012 8:37 AM
#88
Show is becoming trash and the score going down everyday or so is the result. The first episode was amazing but after that it went hill into a gutter. I can probably forgive many of the plot holes for this show, IF AND ONLY IF the characters were interesting. I seen a lot of anime but I never seen a cast of boring and unimagined characters in recent memory. Too many characters with not enough development just splashed on to the show. Just compare Gekko State to Generation Bleu that's it. So many interesting characters that are relatble and you have emotion for. I actually hated Dominic and Ammenoia early on but grew to love them as time went by. I don't feel anything for the characters in E7 Ao at all. Hell when Truth blew up all those soldiers, I could care less. Lastly the leads of the show. I think Ao is a great main character because he contrasts his father so well. But Naru is a generic damsel in distress, nice girl.....yawn. Eureka was so much more interesting as a character and her development as a character. The Generation Bleu pilots in this show are so generic and bland that my early morning toast has more flavour. Also Gekko State was beloved by the fans for its freedom and its rogue crew members. But Generation Bleu is some powerful company that have all these resources and levels of management that it feels way to military. Wish we had Gekko State back because I really enjoyed there missions. So far this show is 6/10 as of right now but it can recover to maybe a 7/10 if they make some changes. |
GovMay 26, 2012 8:40 AM
May 26, 2012 9:04 AM
#89
Seems like the majority of the Eureka 7 fanbase is retarded |
May 26, 2012 10:21 AM
#90
triforcebih said: Seems like the majority of the Eureka 7 fanbase is retarded Oh well, nostalgia can do strange things some times. |
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May 26, 2012 11:02 AM
#91
Raigerzero said: My biggest problem with this anime as of yet is that we understand nothing, and that lack of understand is thrown in our faces over and over again. In the beginning of the original Eureka Seven, Renton has a "childish" dream of joining Gekkostate since they are cool, rebel-type refboarders. Succeeds. Then it becomes a "Renton in the Gekko" type arc where he develops along with the other characters. At this point, the only mysteries are about his father and sister, Eureka's past, and the Nirvash- not too important to the plot as of the moment. Nice pace. Complicates later on, but as we all know, the story was very well done. In the beginning of AO: where is Eureka and Renton? How did Naru get sick? Why is the Nirvash completely mechanical now? Why is the Scub Coral so different in both its defenses, apperance, and behavior? How does trapar work in this world? We know nothing about anyone. Why does everyone want the Nirvash and those green cubes from the scub coral? What exactly does Ao hope to accomplish in Generation Bleu? Only find his mother? What is Truth's deal and SOOOOOO overpowered? BIGGY: Why does Naru completely flip around here? "Oh.....I'm Wendy and Peter Pan is here to get me. He's my romantic sea giant. Better ignore my 14-years-in-the-making friendship/possible-love-interest with my best friend." HUGE: How did Noah outrun his pursuers? Exactly way to many questions unanswered and I bet as we move forward more questions will be raised. Sloppy writing and bad execution. |
May 26, 2012 11:29 AM
#92
There's nothing wrong with having plenty of unanswered questions when the series isn't even halfway over yet. It's not sloppy writing as long as they're all eventually answered by the end, and in the meantime it helps fuel speculation and discussion, which imo is always a good thing. I personally prefer this as opposed to being spoonfed everything. |
May 26, 2012 11:30 AM
#93
Raigerzero said: How did Naru get sick? Scub burst when she was 5. Raigerzero said: How does trapar work in this world? Probably same, but there is less trapars, and places without them. Raigerzero said: BIGGY: Why does Naru completely flip around here? "Oh.....I'm Wendy and Peter Pan is here to get me. He's my romantic sea giant. Better ignore my 14-years-in-the-making friendship/possible-love-interest with my best friend." It was dream, we don't know how he mindfucked her. And they are 12. Raigerzero said: HUGE: How did Noah outrun his pursuers? For teh lulz. |
May 26, 2012 11:40 AM
#94
fdsfgs said: There's nothing wrong with having plenty of unanswered questions when the series isn't even halfway over yet. It's not sloppy writing as long as they're all eventually answered by the end, and in the meantime it helps fuel speculation and discussion, which imo is always a good thing. I personally prefer this as opposed to being spoonfed everything. This show ends in 17 episodes and we barely know anything that is going on. Its going to be a rush to cram in everything that fits into this show. They should have gave us a little back story on certain parts or something. |
May 26, 2012 2:01 PM
#95
Im getting a bit confused by this episode. Let's hope there's some answers soon. Truth is such a boring villain. Yawn. |
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May 26, 2012 3:14 PM
#97
Things don't make much sense now - not that it was making much in early episodes. Is Truth actually that theEND-like IFO? And he's also Naru's IFO? For what I could understand from this episode, seems like it. Weak episode, not dropping though, I'll keep watching for the mechas, but then again, I only passed through the first half of original Eureka SeveN because of the mechas. So, it's too soon to say that's a bad show overral. note: I really liked "Hallelujah" (Fluer's IFO), good thing we going to be able to see him in humanoid form again next episode. |
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May 26, 2012 4:15 PM
#98
Raigerzero said: After typing this, need to say it: Aren't you guys annoyed that Truth's stated motivation is "to find Truth"? Its such a stereotypical thing in animes to say some vague thing like that. "Truth" to him is obviously something substantiated in his mind, while it's meant as intentionally cryptic to us. I've been a pretty big supporter of this show thus far, but I'll agree, if we don't get any good character development next episode, then we'll be too far overdue (fortunately, it seems Fleur and Ao will at least be getting some focus next time around). As for this last episode, I think it really did a good job dropping in the subtleties, though the first half, as I'll reiterate, made for pretty sloppy and mediocre entertainment. |
May 26, 2012 4:57 PM
#99
Fanservice keeps annoying me |
May 26, 2012 5:12 PM
#100
I haven't wrote in ages here but the discussion sparked my interest in one point: To everyone saying that AO feels so vastly different from E7, yes that's very true but I'm surprised nobody thought of a way how this all could be very well done on purpose. Truth repeatedly states that the world here is erroneous and misguided and this makes me think that everything in AO is purposefully different from E7 to make it to us watchers really "all wrong". I don't know how many here have played Kingdom Hearts 2 but for those that did, remember how Twilight Town, the place you spent the beginning of the game at was all just more or less a fabricated world of illusion? Of course my theory is at the moment right pulled out of thin air but seeing the twists we saw in E7 I can see this happening. What if something terrible happened on the original earth and Eureka, being pregnant, just wanted to have a safe place for Ao to grow up at and the Coral placed her into this 2025 world, whatever it might be. (Either a created world. A dreamed world. A alternate dimension etc. only existing for some reason and not because it should actually exist.) She left Ao there to be safe and got either caught by the US or left again. Granted I don't really have anything that supports this theory all too well but it was atleast a idea I wanted to share. The large ref-board secret made me think of that partially. What I could also imagine is that Ao is actually in a dream-like state on the normal and nothing of what we saw so far is completely real. Before we know, Ao and Piped Piper might leave this entire "erroneous world" behind and return to the original earth, if I can see anyone doing such a plot then it's Bones. And as a side-note, it isn't mentioned in the subs I have but did anyone else notice that when the characters refer to the ships like the Triton, they actually seem to say Triton-Go? |
SkyDXMay 26, 2012 5:23 PM
May 26, 2012 5:33 PM
#101
SkyDX said: I haven't wrote in ages here but the discussion sparked my interest in one point: To everyone saying that AO feels so vastly different from E7, yes that's very true but I'm surprised nobody thought of a way how this all could be very well done on purpose. Truth repeatedly states that the world here is erroneous and misguided and this makes me think that everything in AO is purposefully different from E7 to make it to us watchers really "all wrong". I don't know how many here have played Kingdom Hearts 2 but for those that did, remember how Twilight Town, the place you spent the beginning of the game at was all just more or less a fabricated world of illusion? Of course my theory is at the moment right pulled out of thin air but seeing the twists we saw in E7 I can see this happening. What if something terrible happened on the original earth and Eureka, being pregnant, just wanted to have a safe place for Ao to grow up at and the Coral placed her into this 2025 world, whatever it might be. (Either a created world. A dreamed world. A alternate dimension etc. only existing for some reason and not because it should actually exist.) She left Ao there to be safe and got either caught by the US or left again. Granted I don't really have anything that supports this theory all too well but it was atleast a idea I wanted to share. The large ref-board secret made me think of that partially. What I could also imagine is that Ao is actually in a dream-like state on the normal and nothing of what we saw so far is completely real. Before we know, Ao and Piped Piper might leave this entire "erroneous world" behind and return to the original earth, if I can see anyone doing such a plot then it's Bones. And as a side-note, it isn't mentioned in the subs I have but did anyone else notice that when the characters refer to the ships like the Triton, they actually seem to say Triton-Go? Sorry but you're reaching here and this is far too farfetched. So now we have to assume alternate dimensions to make sense of this? What's next, the moon with the heart is where Gekko State are having their next barbecue? |
May 26, 2012 7:20 PM
#102
Darkdrone said: SkyDX said: I haven't wrote in ages here but the discussion sparked my interest in one point: To everyone saying that AO feels so vastly different from E7, yes that's very true but I'm surprised nobody thought of a way how this all could be very well done on purpose. Truth repeatedly states that the world here is erroneous and misguided and this makes me think that everything in AO is purposefully different from E7 to make it to us watchers really "all wrong". I don't know how many here have played Kingdom Hearts 2 but for those that did, remember how Twilight Town, the place you spent the beginning of the game at was all just more or less a fabricated world of illusion? Of course my theory is at the moment right pulled out of thin air but seeing the twists we saw in E7 I can see this happening. What if something terrible happened on the original earth and Eureka, being pregnant, just wanted to have a safe place for Ao to grow up at and the Coral placed her into this 2025 world, whatever it might be. (Either a created world. A dreamed world. A alternate dimension etc. only existing for some reason and not because it should actually exist.) She left Ao there to be safe and got either caught by the US or left again. Granted I don't really have anything that supports this theory all too well but it was atleast a idea I wanted to share. The large ref-board secret made me think of that partially. What I could also imagine is that Ao is actually in a dream-like state on the normal and nothing of what we saw so far is completely real. Before we know, Ao and Piped Piper might leave this entire "erroneous world" behind and return to the original earth, if I can see anyone doing such a plot then it's Bones. And as a side-note, it isn't mentioned in the subs I have but did anyone else notice that when the characters refer to the ships like the Triton, they actually seem to say Triton-Go? Sorry but you're reaching here and this is far too farfetched. So now we have to assume alternate dimensions to make sense of this? What's next, the moon with the heart is where Gekko State are having their next barbecue? Raigerzero said: SkyDX said: Truth repeatedly states that the world here is erroneous and misguided and this makes me think that everything in AO is purposefully different from E7 to make it to us watchers really "all wrong". I don't know how many here have played Kingdom Hearts 2 but for those that did, remember how Twilight Town, the place you spent the beginning of the game at was all just more or less a fabricated world of illusion? Twilight Town was fun, had interesting (to me at least) characters, and evolved into the main plot quickly. We quickly understand why Roxas is there and learn about him. As of yet, I can't draw good parallels with AO. I actually feel confusion with how it's going. SkyDX said: Of course my theory is at the moment right pulled out of thin air but seeing the twists we saw in E7 I can see this happening. What if something terrible happened on the original earth and Eureka, being pregnant, just wanted to have a safe place for Ao to grow up at and the Coral placed her into this 2025 world, whatever it might be. (Either a created world. A dreamed world. A alternate dimension etc.) She left Ao there to be safe and got either caught by the US or left again. Granted I don't really have anything that supports this theory all too well but it was at least a idea I wanted to share. The large ref-board secret made me think of that partially. This was a convenient thing posted earlier: http://i.imgur.com/T67Fb.jpg Plus, you may remember that Renton's grandpa saw a red and blue pair of twinkling lights in the distance somewhere in the last episode. Unrelated: I would just like to say that I am happy the Nirvash typeTheEND seems to have survived. I can't blame you two, I know my theory is very far-fetched. I for one also am not too happy with the developments of AO but what eventually pulls me through week for week is that I want to see how they connect it and what is behind the whole plot. If they really should mess it up entirely which I doubt I can always rant after the series ended^^ |
May 26, 2012 8:06 PM
#103
Darkdrone said: So now we have to assume alternate dimensions to make sense of this? What's next, the moon with the heart is where Gekko State are having their next barbecue? We're not assuming anything, alternate dimensions have been an established part of Eureka Seven ever since the final episodes of the original series. In fact, they played pretty big parts in the plot of the TV series and movie. |
May 26, 2012 8:19 PM
#104
fdsfgs said: Darkdrone said: So now we have to assume alternate dimensions to make sense of this? What's next, the moon with the heart is where Gekko State are having their next barbecue? We're not assuming anything, alternate dimensions have been an established part of Eureka Seven ever since the final episodes of the original series. In fact, they played pretty big parts in the plot of the TV series and movie. The Great Wall? |
May 26, 2012 8:57 PM
#105
May 27, 2012 6:22 AM
#106
After 7 episodes still 'something' is missing from E7 in AO. |
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May 27, 2012 8:20 AM
#107
I'm close to rating this 6. |
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May 27, 2012 9:17 AM
#108
ernst said: Even though only 7 eps aired?I'm close to rating this 6. |
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May 27, 2012 9:34 AM
#109
The score I think is now either 8.01 or 8.............I wouldn't be surprised if it falls down to a 7.5. The show has been heading down for the last 3 episodes. |
May 27, 2012 11:02 AM
#110
I still find this series to be particularly interesting, especially in the whole betrayal aspect with Naru siding with Truth. This episode may not have depicted it in the most presentable way, but I still believe there will be something great coming out of this. Dangerr said: Another complaint I'm getting tired of seeing is how this series "just doesn't feel the same at all", and I ask: What of it? I personally find it refreshing that it's taking such a different setting and mood in contrast to the original series, and commend the creators for taking a riskier route for such. I'll also concede, however, that this last episode was relatively weak, and probably the worst in the series thus far, but was hardly the train-wreck most are making it out to be. One thing I decided to not do before I started watching this was compare it to the original. It is being produced a great many years later and using an entirely different cast, differences are to be expected. I am disappointed in how badly most of the community is taking to this series, I am more than confident that Bones will make this into something better. I don't feel it's right to be making judgements when we're about one month away from being halfway through the series... |
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