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May 19, 2012 6:01 AM

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Seiji fuels some character development in Kaoru and Sentarou. It's nice to see those other sides of them. I guess it adds more realism to the show. And the more realistic it is, the more others can relate, right? Yeap, good stuff there.

But I don't like him. Just seeing him, ugh.

And I'm guessing the guy at the end is Jun? ;_;
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May 19, 2012 6:47 AM
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Hexagon love relationship...
its getting more complex but I will stick to Bon X Sentarou till the end.
May 19, 2012 7:49 AM

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Totentanz said:
This episode once again showed how refined every character is.
Seiji seems to be a quite flamboyant and manipulative guy, yet I think he's honest in regard to his family situation and his dream of becoming famous is most likely fueled by the wish to escape his narrow environment which is why he displays such an exuberant attitude.

It's a good thing that he brought out a different side from both Kaoru and Sentarou.
We see a softer side from Sentarou as he seems to feel compassion for Seiji as he can easily relate to the situation the slim boy mentioned

Despite being aware of his own irrational feelings Kaoru can't help but feel betrayed by Sentarou and sees Seiji as a threat to their friendship, having experienced how easily friendships can cease to exist. It shows how Kaoru still has a long way to go concerning social skills and that one has to be able to adapt to changes in one's life. Expecting him to have changed completely after making friends with Ritsuko and Sentarou would have been unrealistic.

While many seem to regard the new character as an unpleasant addition to this series, it's still a neccessary development to make Kaoru realize that one can't claim a monopoly for someone's friendship. Without doubt he will grow to a more mature person after this conflict.


That's more or less how I feel. I don't understand why people are whining over this guy. He just helps see that Kaoru is still the lonely kid from his childhood, and Sentaro is more or less the only person he ever had such a close bond to. It's understandable that he'd feel so threatened.

I can believe that Seiji comes from a poor family; when you live in poverty, it can really change you as a person.

The only annoying thing about him is that he treats music as a potential cash cow, instead of actually liking and appreciating music. Sentaro was a real musician and a real admirer of the arts. Seiji is just using it, as he is with everyone else.

It brings a new edge to the show. And while it's sad to say that it just doesn't quite as amazing as it did at first. I think it's instead turning itself more into a refined character drama, I can get behind this.


May 19, 2012 8:46 AM

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This gay boy is so annoying and colorful, just don't fit with the rest of the characters of this series, a really fail in my opinion.
May 19, 2012 8:48 AM

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wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

May 19, 2012 10:41 AM

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sbyrstall said:
wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.

I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.
May 19, 2012 11:06 AM

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danilo07 said:
I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.


But this episode was melodramatic to begin with.

No matter how you look at it, this problem is symptomatic of Sakamichi no Apollon being wrongfully compressed into one cour.
May 19, 2012 11:55 AM

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I felt like the scene before the opening, with the wind breezing past Ritsuko's skirt was hinting at her feelings for Kaoru swaying.


For what it's worth, I definitely think so too.
May 19, 2012 11:58 AM

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Hakuromatsu said:
No matter how you look at it, this problem is symptomatic of Sakamichi no Apollon being wrongfully compressed into one cour.


I really hope that the next episode won't be compressed at all.

Its my favorite moment in the manga.

danilo07 said:
sbyrstall said:
wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.

I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.


No, that scene is actually very necessary. In the manga, Kaoru's mom is portrayed as a strong-hearted woman who struggles against all odds in her life. She swore not to cry in front of Kaoru, despite all of her sadness and despair.


In the anime she's just a typical irresponsible, weak mother who doesn't even try to hold her tears in front of her son, even if she know that by doing so would probably make her son sad and puzzled.
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May 19, 2012 12:27 PM

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Well, from my point of view, one of Seiji's creation purposes is for him to be 'the receiver of all fangirls hate and rage' within Sen x Bon shippers' community, so that both Yurika and Ritsuko may be spared from all the hate. :p
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May 19, 2012 12:34 PM

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wishbook said:
Hakuromatsu said:
No matter how you look at it, this problem is symptomatic of Sakamichi no Apollon being wrongfully compressed into one cour.


I really hope that the next episode won't be compressed at all.

Its my favorite moment in the manga.

danilo07 said:
sbyrstall said:
wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.

I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.


No, that scene is actually very necessary. In the manga, Kaoru's mom is portrayed as a strong-hearted woman who struggles against all odds in her life. She swore not to cry in front of Kaoru, despite all of her sadness and despair.


In the anime she's just a typical irresponsible, weak mother who doesn't even try to hold her tears in front of her son, even if she know that by doing so would probably make her son sad and puzzled.

Well having a loving, good,strong mother who wants to protect child but she can not cause society rejects her is cliche in melodrama genre.Being irresponsible and crying in front of you son is more realistic.
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danilo07 said:
wishbook said:
Hakuromatsu said:
No matter how you look at it, this problem is symptomatic of Sakamichi no Apollon being wrongfully compressed into one cour.


I really hope that the next episode won't be compressed at all.

Its my favorite moment in the manga.

danilo07 said:
sbyrstall said:
wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.

I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.


No, that scene is actually very necessary. In the manga, Kaoru's mom is portrayed as a strong-hearted woman who struggles against all odds in her life. She swore not to cry in front of Kaoru, despite all of her sadness and despair.


In the anime she's just a typical irresponsible, weak mother who doesn't even try to hold her tears in front of her son, even if she know that by doing so would probably make her son sad and puzzled.

Well having a loving, good,strong mother who wants to protect child but she can not cause society rejects her is cliche in melodrama genre.Being irresponsible and crying in front of you son is more realistic.


Actually it would be better if she did intend to cry all out in front of Kaoru from the start, which makes her the 'irresponsible type' as you said. But what happened in the anime is, she cried in front of Kaoru unintentionally, which means that:

1. She failed in holding back her tears. That proves her to be weaker than her manga counterpart. In the anime it looks like she doesn't make any effort in holding back her tears at all. But in the manga it is clear that she is struggling inside.
2. The anime decided to show her shedding tears without any backing story to that. That's a plot hole, something that make us questions "Why?" but will never be answered. I prefer the story to be cliched but explained well, rather than it trying to be uniquely mysterious but leaving a plothole behind.

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May 19, 2012 1:12 PM

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wishbook said:
danilo07 said:
wishbook said:
Hakuromatsu said:
No matter how you look at it, this problem is symptomatic of Sakamichi no Apollon being wrongfully compressed into one cour.


I really hope that the next episode won't be compressed at all.

Its my favorite moment in the manga.

danilo07 said:
sbyrstall said:
wishbook said:
Dammit......................The scenes that I anticipated aren't included at all.


They chopped off SO many scenes in this episode, a total of what could be 5 minutes of additional scenes. It annoyed the hell outta me, hence this episode is the worst episode so far, with too many omitted scenes and downgrade animation in terms of drawing detail, plus the melodrama between Kaoru and Sen. There are also weird transitions between scenes, such as when Kaoru throw away his clams. Suddenly in less than a second he is walking away from Sen. It's like watching a video in a 4x fast forward mode.

Overall this episode sucks.

2/5

weeknd said:
there was a couple parts skipped that were in the manga but that's normal nowkdls; xnx it was pretty good though o:

and i also thought that nobuhiko's hair was blonde xD


Yeah me too. Because Sentarou's hair is colored gray in the manga, I thought Seiji's white hair would be blonde-colored in the anime. But maybe its not too realistic for a Japanese to have blonde hair in 60's.

You got it right in the first sentence. The series is now so chopped up the scenes no longer makes sense anymore because the best parts, the discussions, the background information is being left out. Example, there was a whole scene about my Kauro's mom left him. It wasn't even touched upon in the anime. I'm about to take the rating down to an 7 or 8 because of this hack job.

I like that they cut that scene cause I found it to be very very stupid and overly melodramatic I am watching anime not telenovela.


No, that scene is actually very necessary. In the manga, Kaoru's mom is portrayed as a strong-hearted woman who struggles against all odds in her life. She swore not to cry in front of Kaoru, despite all of her sadness and despair.


In the anime she's just a typical irresponsible, weak mother who doesn't even try to hold her tears in front of her son, even if she know that by doing so would probably make her son sad and puzzled.

Well having a loving, good,strong mother who wants to protect child but she can not cause society rejects her is cliche in melodrama genre.Being irresponsible and crying in front of you son is more realistic.


Actually it would be better if she did intend to cry all out in front of Kaoru from the start, which makes her the 'irresponsible type' as you said. But what happened in the anime is, she cried in front of Kaoru unintentionally, which means that:

1. She failed in holding back her tears. That proves her to be weaker than her manga counterpart. In the anime it looks like she doesn't make any effort in holding back her tears at all. But in the manga it is clear that she is struggling inside.
2. The anime decided to show her shedding tears without any backing story to that. That's a plot hole, something that make us questions "Why?" but will never be answered. I prefer the story to be cliched but explained well, rather than it trying to be uniquely mysterious but leaving a plothole behind.

You have wrong definition of plot hole here is little bit from wikipedia on it "While many stories have unanswered questions, unlikely events or chance occurrences, a plot hole is one that is essential to the story's outcome." Her back story was not needed for that episodes purpose which is Kaoru maturing and like I previously said it was a cliche.
May 19, 2012 2:34 PM

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damn ended so quickly i guess that guy at the end was Jun!


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Seiji fuels some character development in Kaoru and Sentarou. It's nice to see those other sides of them. I guess it adds more realism to the show. And the more realistic it is, the more others can relate, right? Yeap, good stuff there.

But I don't like him. Just seeing him, ugh.

And I'm guessing the guy at the end is Jun? ;_;


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The only thing bad about this episode is Seiji's tooth. I can get over it but I would have liked it if it wasn't that exaggerated.I really like theses characters compared to those of other animes of the same genre.

Also, I wonder what happened to Jun at the end.
May 19, 2012 6:40 PM

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The tooth pissed me off so much.
May 19, 2012 9:00 PM

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That new kid may not be a bad person or anything, but I don't like that he's getting in between Sentarou and Kaoru's friendship.....

Poor Kaoru, I can understand where he's coming from, but leaving Sentarou like that broke my heart : (

I hope they fix things next episode...
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May 20, 2012 1:51 AM

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I dislike the changes that they made this episode, not bad, but too much melodrama (as far as I can recall it wasn't like that in the manga, was resolved way quicker and I prefer it that way)..
well, it was still good, but could have been better
May 20, 2012 2:47 AM

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I like how this anime deals with the characters emotions and development but I wish everyone stopped falling in love :s (I'm a romance anime fan but this is getting a little off) also that new guy...I dislike him already, i don't give a damn if his circumstances are real or a load of crap but I don't like the way he smooth talks his way through things
May 20, 2012 3:42 AM

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Fvcking gay! Is that new character a gay? I don't even know but he's annoying as shit. Damn.
May 20, 2012 4:23 AM

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The episode is pretty well, and well it brought out more from the characters especially Kaoru. I actually thought they were going to try and play a beetles' track, makes me excited to see if Sen would really go and play for the new guy.
May 20, 2012 5:16 AM

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The tooth pissed me off so much.
This is an issue I have with a lot of characters, not just this one. Why do many anime characters have incisors that stick out? They either look like dogs or vampires...and I know SnA doesn't have any vampires in it.
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

May 20, 2012 5:54 AM

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Im impressed on how they cut some manga parts while that the story doesn't get so messed up... but also disappointed because this is an adaptation giving us a complete different scenario and characters personality from manga... the pace now is very fast... and degrading after each episode.. or maybe i just like manga more.
i cant rate this anime anymore... ill leave it to non manga readers.
Still continues to be one of best show this year!
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Where the hell is the jazz? This show is going downhill.
May 20, 2012 2:30 PM

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So that's how emos used to be in the middle of the 20th century.
May 20, 2012 3:00 PM

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One couple... two couple... three couple...
We're halfway through the series and why the only romance that seems to be progressing is bromance?
Yaoi feelings...
May 20, 2012 9:22 PM
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I don't like gay characters appear in anime very much.
it's easy way to keep the story.
May 21, 2012 7:54 AM
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i really wanted to see more in this episode. what is wrong with sentaro? the beatles? come on!


What's wrong with the Beatles? lol
May 22, 2012 3:27 AM

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Man that new guy is kinda @_@. Similar experiences can really ruin your life huh. if Kaoru didnt experience it before perhaps he would believe Sentaro

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I hate this new gay... ekhm, I mean guy. Toady. Hope that he won't have much screen time. And what's wrong with his teeth!? He looks like cat or vampire!

(better looks like vampire cause he sparkles)

lol. Please, no more crap like this in this series. DD:
May 23, 2012 11:47 AM

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That new guy is annoying. That bowl cut, the tooth, voice, flamboyancy. Everything.
May 23, 2012 7:27 PM

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Aw man, things are getting worse for him. The new guyWataru I think is a sweet talker, but no matter what he did he won't be able to hold on Sentarou for long.
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Great episode! Very emotional toward the end.



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May 26, 2012 9:40 PM

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That goddamn tooth. I'm sure the guy would've been half as annoying without it.
May 27, 2012 5:12 AM

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The tooth pissed me off so much.

Couldn't agree more.

Also, full ED out in a few days time. <3
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May 28, 2012 12:25 PM

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I wish Sentarou will just ignore the new kid and come back to Kaoru
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That faggy Beatles fan. Such a sore.
Oh and Kaoru sounded almost yaoi for Sentarou at the end there.
Though that just might be my inability to comprehend friendships. ~(ー_ー~)

And damn, I want a Lolex, too!
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Hi there! I want to ask what does Nishimi means by saying this line:
to the guy with the glasses in the first 3mins of this episode.

I am not sure if I missed an episode about that scene or my memory has just gone so bad. Thanks in advance!
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Kaoru is starting to annoy me.
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I had to laugh out loud when Seiji first appeared. the guys' expressions when they saw him were also priceless XD
though later on he started acting more creepy than funny
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Agree, new kid was pretty annoying.

Good episode nonetheless. xD
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I didn't care so much for this episode. It wasn't bad as such, just the weakest one so far. Despite the addition of a new character it felt like nothing much happened here. And another episode without music as well.
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Man, Kaeru is pretty annoying I have to say. =/. He makes drama out of nothing! I can't say I don't like drama, but I would prefer to have it made in appropriate situations! =P

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gay anime is gay

brb annoying phaggot out of no where
brb MC is an emo bipolar attention whore faggot
Oct 12, 2012 9:29 PM

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Using a Beattles record to pique a Drummer's interest in to rock... Did they forget that the drumming in the Beattle's songs were easy enough that a novice could pick them up in a week? Maybe even less... Don't get me wrong the Beattles were a great band but drumming wasn't really their strong point. Aside from that kind of feel bad for both MC's, Sentarou is going to get blind sided by a girl who has no interest in him and Kaoru is gonna go back to not having any friends.
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That fang.

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Hi there! I want to ask what does Nishimi means by saying this line:
to the guy with the glasses in the first 3mins of this episode.

I am not sure if I missed an episode about that scene or my memory has just gone so bad. Thanks in advance!


That was from the previous episode when Sentarou boarded the train with Kaoru to meet his mother. Maruo gave Sentarou that ticket.
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The new guy annoys me. He acts like a gay as well :/
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Kaeru is such a drama queen, jeez. I missed the JAZZ in this episode.
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whos the faggot

poor kid didnt get any letters :( can see why he'd run away from sen like that

was that jun at the end? 0_0 was gonna take a break but that ending. MUST WATCH MORE
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