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May 15, 2012 6:43 AM

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great for Mouretsu Pirates....
 
May 15, 2012 7:09 AM

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Is Moretsu sci fi and mecha? Cuz I can never get into those two genres no matter how good the anime is.

Weren't you despairing back when Mouretsu Volume 1 had power sales that shows like it didn't sell? I assumed that meant you were actually watching it, or had some reason to want it to succeed at any rate. Watch it!

It's a sci-fi setting definitely. Mecha, no. There are spaceships of course (they're space pirates after all), but that's it.

Looking forward to Volume 1 also maybe ranking again in the full list at the end of this week (it was right behind Volume 2 in the Thursday daily rankings) which would fill in 4 weeks worth of data, from wk7 to wk10.


That was before I watched it as well. I tend to route for almost all series even if I don't watch them. True, I don't like sci fi, but for the people who do like it, good sales are good right? Plus, I heard many reviews that that it was good.
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May 15, 2012 7:13 AM

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Is Horizon that good to get 20k sales? o_O


Well I haven't seen it but the MC girl has humongous boobs.


Its confusing as hell, but it has very nice art though. The reason it sold so much is because of the loyal fanbase from the novels are following it. They even commented that they were surprised at MAL's low scores on one of the Japanese boards (it was at 6.??/10 at the time).
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May 15, 2012 7:47 AM

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Moretsu Pirates was pretty meh the first 13 episdoes or so. Once it actually started to live up to its American name, "Bodacious Space Pirates", it got better. I went into it looking for a pirate crew of cute girls.

 
May 15, 2012 7:57 AM

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Why is Mouretsu Pirates kicking so much ass? is it that good?


its dialogue heavy from the reviews and comments i read, it has less action too and no ecchi so must be a new formula for it to get so much sales, im curious too but still i wont watch it


It's what people describe as a "space opera" essentially the fun sci-adventure with a focus on a detailed, realistic universe. Much of the appeal comes from how detailed and technical the show is about space-travel while still managing to appeal to a wide/not-scientifically-literate audience. Secondly, the show prioritizes setting, characters, and plot (in that order, I think) over constant action/lasers/explosions and the like. Essentially I would go as far as to say it's one of the more intelligent shows currently airing. It's hard to call any show that mentions "Lagrange Points" in the correct context as unintelligent. Of course, such technical background is not needed to understand and enjoy the show; it's just that these little details can really please the viewer that catches on to them.


oh ok well i might as well watch it then i love sci-fi and very much like to know about outer space science in a anime way

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i read your point but i think ill go with Exkalamity's explanation since we all know how most japanese love them science and technology and mixing it on a anime in a realistic manner tends to attract them i guess XD
 
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I want to slap all 6000 people who bought Mouretsu Pirates because that show is sickeningly bad. Especially since it has immoral lesbians in it now.

They're not pirates, they're not bodacious, and they're only in space occasionally. False advertisement at its finest.
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May 15, 2012 8:37 AM

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Moralfag detected. Kill him with fire >:-)
 
May 15, 2012 8:39 AM

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they're not bodacious


You do realise only the English name has bodacious in it, right?
 
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You do realise only the English name has bodacious in it, right?

Yes, the English title that's in both the Japanese TV broadcast and in the Crunchyroll nonsense that we get in the western world. That obviously doesn't mean anything since it definitely isn't plastered across everything in both English and Japanese or anything.
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Moralfag detected. Kill him with fire >:-)


Actually McRib is just trolling, I remember him doing this at the end of Yosuga no Sora, his trolling calmed my rage over the series.


 
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Hoppy said:
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Moralfag detected. Kill him with fire >:-)


Actually McRib is just trolling, I remember him doing this at the end of Yosuga no Sora, his trolling calmed my rage over the series.


Yeah, I remember this too. He watched mainly ecchi and fanservice stuff, yet always appears in topics bashing their morality. Theres only one word I can think of for that behavior.

 
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I want to slap all 6000 people who bought Mouretsu Pirates because that show is sickeningly bad. Especially since it has immoral lesbians in it now.

They're not pirates, they're not bodacious, and they're only in space occasionally. False advertisement at its finest.


I was annoyed too that pirating basically means to service customers in this series.

You don't have to go into the series for the sci-fi or the pirating, you have to watch it for the slice-of-life show it is - which happens to have a space-ish setting. I managed to get some enjoyment out of it because it really has a good focus on details and subplots even though it's basically a fanservice show (Nobody would care for it it it wasn't all teenage girls on the cast, nobody except me :P). It's definitely not a bad show, but it's not my favorite kind of anime genre-wise and that wasn't entirely obvious before it aired.

Anyway, neither hate nor overly praise are called for regarding this show in my opinion.
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May 15, 2012 10:20 AM

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May 15, 2012 10:49 AM

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I don't get why people hate Mouretsu Pirates, but I'm glad it's up high in the rankings, maybe chance for a 2nd season.
 
May 15, 2012 11:24 AM

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(Nobody would care for it it it wasn't all teenage girls on the cast, nobody except me :P)

Huh? I prefer the actual crew of the Bentenmaru over the yacht club (except for Jenny, but she's the only standout). It's wrong to say that it's an all teenage girl cast when Marika is the only crewmember of the Bentenmaru who is a teenage girl, though Chiaki and the two princesses have tagged along.
 
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I don't get why people hate Mouretsu Pirates, but I'm glad it's up high in the rankings, maybe chance for a 2nd season.

It all depends.
 
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(Nobody would care for it it it wasn't all teenage girls on the cast, nobody except me :P)

Huh? I prefer the actual crew of the Bentenmaru over the yacht club (except for Jenny, but she's the only standout). It's wrong to say that it's an all teenage girl cast when Marika is the only crewmember of the Bentenmaru who is a teenage girl, though Chiaki and the two princesses have tagged along.


You're right, but for some time now we haven't seen much of the real crew at all and the name of the show suggests the school girl crew is at least of equal importance.
Not that I particularly dislike them, but it's just too typical to not call it fanservice. And I wish the real crew members would get some focus, but so far we only got backstories for some of the various girls. Again, not that they were bad, but I think it supports my point that the main selling point of this show (Especially in terms of sales) are cute teenage (or even younger) girls only and all the males are secondary characters at best.
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(Nobody would care for it it it wasn't all teenage girls on the cast, nobody except me :P)

Huh? I prefer the actual crew of the Bentenmaru over the yacht club (except for Jenny, but she's the only standout). It's wrong to say that it's an all teenage girl cast when Marika is the only crewmember of the Bentenmaru who is a teenage girl, though Chiaki and the two princesses have tagged along.


I prefer Ai and Jenny, Ai is a cute, talented loli with serious amounts of take home cuteness, I will be enjoying her skills with the skiff next episode, Jenny is quite the lady, helps with the yuri too.


 
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Glad Mouretsu Pirates' sales are decent. I wouldn't mind a second season, but I'd rather not have anime original material (that is, if the first season has caught up with the novel.)
 
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I guess that means no second season for Papa no Iukoto :( I can always hope I guess.
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May 15, 2012 3:08 PM

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jmal said:
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Glad Mouretsu Pirates' sales are decent. I wouldn't mind a second season, but I'd rather not have anime original material (that is, if the first season has caught up with the novel.)

There are 8 novels, the anime is only covering about half of that, so they could do another two-cour sequel immediately.


I hope for a break in between. If they decide to do a second season.
It's an okay show but too much would be too much.

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May 15, 2012 4:14 PM

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Is this line on the DVD sales a misprint?

15, *,265 *,***,265 Mouretsu Pirates vol.5

Seems odd when only vol3 of the BluRay is out
 
May 15, 2012 5:04 PM

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No, it's not. There are 7 BD ~3 eps each and 13 DVD's 2 eps each
 
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*1, 6,352 *6,352 Mouretsu Pirates vol.3 Limited Edition
*8, *,296 *7,206 Mouretsu Pirates vol.2 Limited Edition
15, *,265 *,***,265 Mouretsu Pirates vol.5
50, *1,201 *65,051 Mouretsu Pirates "Mugen no Ai"
*8, *6,472 Mouretsu Pirates
YES! Deserves good sales. Though I'm surprised there are people buying it, even though there's no ecchi or anything. o_o Whatever. I support because it's one of the series that I thought "this is probably ecchi and crap". Now on 19/26 and loving it. The title is misleading~

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Mouretsu probably appeals to an older, tech-guy sort of audience. Im far from that demographic, so i found it incredibly dull.
 
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No, it's not. There are 7 BD ~3 eps each and 13 DVD's 2 eps each


Thanks for the info. Is this difference between the DVD and BD episode count common? If so it makes the comparisons that combine the BD and DVD sales a little tricky
 
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Thanks for the info. Is this difference between the DVD and BD episode count common? If so it makes the comparisons that combine the BD and DVD sales a little tricky

It's quite rare, but King Records (Mouretsu distributors) are doing something similar for PapaKiki (slightly different episode distribution and different release dates).

As for combining sales, the best way is BD1+DVD1 (similar ep counts) and then BD2+avg(DVD2-3), BD3+avg(DVD4-5) etc until BD7+avg(DVD12-13). That lines up episode counts the best. But in all likelihood, few if any of the remaining DVDs will rank.
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well nise still selling.. good..

 
May 15, 2012 11:57 PM

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One piece !!! always in top 10 as expected !
 
May 16, 2012 7:12 AM

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Why is Mouretsu Pirates kicking so much ass? is it that good?


Actually, it's terrible.

The reason it sells good is because Japan and their bad tastes.


I agree. Even though the show has great technical aspects it is very boring. Too much dialogue, too many ecchi elements, and the action scenes look quite horrid. The CGI used on the ship look last decade to my eyes. The premise imo is quite hypocritical since they are "legal" pirates. It is kinda like a space opera I suppose but it is just too boring.
 
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I want to slap all 6000 people who bought Mouretsu Pirates because that show is sickeningly bad. Especially since it has immoral lesbians in it now.

They're not pirates, they're not bodacious, and they're only in space occasionally. False advertisement at its finest.


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McRib said:
I want to slap all 6000 people who bought Mouretsu Pirates because that show is sickeningly bad. Especially since it has immoral lesbians in it now.

They're not pirates, they're not bodacious, and they're only in space occasionally. False advertisement at its finest.


...not everything in anime has to be moe.
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too many ecchi elements

This is utter nonsense.
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*7, 16,990 *16,990 Accel World "Chase the world"



This makes me happy. :D
 
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jmal said:
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too many ecchi elements

This is utter nonsense.


Yeah, if there is one thing Moretsu Pirates isn't, its ecchi. Its been far more conservative in that regard then I expected, so I dunno what that guy is talking about.

 
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Great to see May'n's newest single topping it off at #7 in the Oricon charts! But at the same time, it's kind of a shock to not see "unfinished" in the charts. Maybe Kotoko's single isn't out yet? In any case, it's nice too see a lot of Anime Theme songs making a presence in the Charts!

And Mouretsu pirates...I'm one of those people struggling to see the greatness in that anime. Granted it doesn't rely on fan-service to keep the plot engaging, but I think the show has a tough time distinguishing itself and can't seem to decide whether it wants to be a full action-anime or just slice-of-life.
And trying to balance between the two genres just makes the progression that much more frustrating.
 
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I guess that means no second season for Papa no Iukoto :( I can always hope I guess.


Goes to show discounted vol 1's of BDs don't equal good sales, even worse news AKB0048 has a discounted vol 1, I believe it's 2100 yen for vol 1.


 
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But at the same time, it's kind of a shock to not see "unfinished" in the charts. Maybe Kotoko's single isn't out yet?

It came out 5/16 JST, so what is currently yesterday in Japan.

The lists in this thread cover May 7 - 13 so you should see it in next Tuesday's thread for May 14 - 20.
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>Goes to show discounted vol 1's of BDs don't equal good sales, even worse news AKB0048 has a discounted vol 1, I believe it's 2100 yen for vol 1.

Don't see the problem there. The thing is how popular show would be, not the diversion of episodes on BDs and their price.

But I wonder why AKB0048 started so late if it would be 13 eps?
 
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But I wonder why AKB0048 started so late if it would be 13 eps?


that's been on my mind too. I don't watch it but I always wondered.
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
>Goes to show discounted vol 1's of BDs don't equal good sales, even worse news AKB0048 has a discounted vol 1, I believe it's 2100 yen for vol 1.

Don't see the problem there. The thing is how popular show would be, not the diversion of episodes on BDs and their price.

But I wonder why AKB0048 started so late if it would be 13 eps?


The problem is that its projected to hit like 8k copies at half price.... and the AKB48 fanbase is hardcore that likely would have paid the normal price, regardless. So they've essentially lost a lot of money by giving it a lower price point.

And AKB0048 being 13 episodes probably just means some show next season will only be like 9 episodes.

 
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Such low sales for this past week.
 
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Is Horizon that good to get 20k sales? o_O


It has good action, complicated plot and setting and awesome characters but a lot of people dropped it because of one of reasons:

1) To complicated seting. Most of people just get WTF effect first couple of episodes and didn't get it
2) A lot of girls with big boobs on the poster. Some people just think that the show is another ecchi harem
Is it not? (Not trolling here. I'm one of those people you mention in 2) and I'm now quite curious as to whether I should try it out.)
 
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
>Goes to show discounted vol 1's of BDs don't equal good sales, even worse news AKB0048 has a discounted vol 1, I believe it's 2100 yen for vol 1.

Don't see the problem there. The thing is how popular show would be, not the diversion of episodes on BDs and their price.

I think what he meant is that if you try to predict sales based on Volume 1, Volume 1 being discounted can throw any predictions off big time. Sometimes Volume 1 can sell double what Volumes 2+ do, if the first volume was discounted. Discounted first volumes do usually sell significantly more, that's entirely accurate.

So the fact that AKB is dropping out of the top 100 already, despite the first volume being insanely cheap, thr whole cour only being 5 discs (yay cheap King Records' pricing), and there being a "buy all 5 to get an event ticket" system, indicates that it has not (yet) drawn in the AKB fanbase to any significant degree. It did peak very high early on, but the drop since has been rapid.

But that doesn't mean it'll sell poorly. There are plenty of episodes left. But if it sells middlingly, that would support what I argued back during the Persona 4 debates: large fanbase does not automatically equal sales, especially not at the level Persona 4's anime got. The fanbase helps, but they have to actually enjoy the show too, or they won't buy it in large numbers. And AKB's fanbase is vastly larger than Persona's.

Edit: To be clear, unless it totally falls apart, AKB should still easily be one of the top 5 sellers of the season. It's just that so far it's not showing any signs of being a 20k+ smash hit.
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Protag has a crush only on main heroine and only one other girl has a crush on him.

And there are some perverted moments such as boobs groping(in clothes) or boobs bouncing but almost no real ecchi.

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Too bad. I actually like this show. At least it's much better than Symphogear. Looks like mix of THe Idolmaster and Macross Frontier which were both quite enjoyable for me
 
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Dusk252 said:
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2) A lot of girls with big boobs on the poster. Some people just think that the show is another ecchi harem
Is it not? (Not trolling here. I'm one of those people you mention in 2) and I'm now quite curious as to whether I should try it out.)

It has ecchi material, no doubt, and there's a bit of a harem tone in how a lot of the girls seem to have feelings for Toori. But, the show is by no means a "harem show", and that's not the focus at all. Besides, Toori is very very clear about who he loves, so there's nary a hint of the usual harem protagonist's romantic fickleness.

If you can get past the introductory episodes (they're... rather dense) it actually turns into a pretty darn fun show, and especially from episode 10 onward I really really liked it. Second season/cour should be pretty great.
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But that's just nitpicking in my opinion. If Ai Yori Aoshi gets called a harem (and Kaoru is absolutely only in love with Aoi, there is no question from the beginning to the end) then Horizon deserves the same. As long as harem just means 'there are a lot of girls surrounding the male protagonist' then that label should stick.
 
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But that's just nitpicking in my opinion. If Ai Yori Aoshi gets called a harem (and Kaoru is absolutely only in love with Aoi, there is no question from the beginning to the end) then Horizon deserves the same. As long as harem just means 'there are a lot of girls surrounding the male protagonist' then that label should stick.


well if that's the case, at least until episode 13 of the 1st season

there was no girl actually chasing toori or showing any affection to him (other than her 'brocon' sister)

and by the end of the first season, he already got a partner

besides some girls around him already had partners as well
 
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> there was no girl actually chasing toori or showing any affection to him (other than her 'brocon' sister)

I don't think his sister has a brother complex. But blind girl has a one-sided crush on him

>besides some girls around him already had partners as well

Yeah. There are even one yuri pair
 
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But that's just nitpicking in my opinion.

When someone says "harem anime", certain expectations come with it. Using "harem" to describe a show with one clear, canonical, immediately established romantic pairing, and in which secondary female characters' feelings are very slight and not focused upon, is to render "harem" less than useful as an indicator of content. There isn't even a serious love triangle in Horizon, let alone the many-sided relationship complexities that define a harem.

As long as harem just means 'there are a lot of girls surrounding the male protagonist' then that label should stick.

This is something necessary to a harem anime, but it only defines the gender make-up of the cast. There has to be a second part to the definition addressing actual story content: a central focus on multiple credible romantic prospects, overt flirting/wooing from multiple potential partners, etc.

"Bishoujo anime" is the term that was often used in the past when someone just wanted to state, in very very broad terms, that a show had a heavy focus on multiple attractive female characters. It described the cast visually, without implying a judgment of the show's story elements or content. I actually wish the word were still in wider use, because it's really the right word to use in situations where people nowadays tend to shoehorn in "harem", "moe", "ecchi", "slice of life", or "fanservice", doing various degrees of semantic disservice to those terms in the process.
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