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Just a simple thread to state how you feel about these to things.You can state where they shine & where they stink (to you,of course).You can also state where they can improve.
I'm sure a good amount of users here read American comics & watch(ed) American animated shows.Do any of you consider yourself fans of these or do you stick with anime & manga?Are you an anime & manga fan who are interested in becoming fan of these?
P.S:This ISN'T a full on versus thread.You can do a little bit of comparison here & there.But if you want to fight it out,then take your fight & start killing each other somewhere else.
P.Sx2.:If there is already a thread like this,then I'm sorry.I'm not searching through 10 pages of forums just to find & revive a dead thread from 1984. (oh,this is soo gonna be locked)

I used to read comic books as a teenager but I don't really keep up with them anymore. The major universes like Marvel and DC have been through so many different continuities, reboots and different writers that they seem almost impenetrable to get back into and it feels like a low reward option to figure it all out because if the writer changes or something happens then the whole story can be flipped upside down. I know there are a lot of other options out there but when I was a kid I read Marvel and DC, and now I just don't find the other options appealing enough to really get into. The last western comic that I read and really liked was The Walking Dead.

Now if your talking about older comics then I am a pretty big fan of Allen Moore. Watchmen was his masterpiece but he has a ton of other titles to his credit that I really adore. Constantine, V for Vendetta and Batman: The Killing Joke. He's done runs on a lot of other DC comics but it's his original work that I find to be the most entertaining. Although the Killing Joke is just a chilling read. It's a great look at the dark and twisted mind of the Joker.

When it comes to anime comedies there are some that I enjoy quite a bit and of course I adore Gintama but Japanese humor is very Japanese. So when I want more western oriented humor I always turn to Archer, The Venture Brothers and Metalocalypse.

The humor in these shows is a lot less foreign to me and Archer in particular has great writing. Archer is a sharp and witty satire that isn't afraid to twist and bend it's concept with hilarious results. Venture Brothers is great for all the 70s and 80s nerd references. And Metalocalypse is just fun for some mindless violence and it's mostly clueless characters.

Gintama is almost criminal in the way it can make me break a rib laughing but it's the only anime comedy that can make me laugh as consistently as Archer. Show like Nichijou and Daily Lives of High School Boys can make me smile and giggle a little bit but they rarely get the full on laughter that some of the western cartoons I listed can get out of me. It's just different styles of humor for different cultures and for me Gintama is the only one that really transcends that boundary.

Lack of Oignal creator its what kills continuity thats why manga will always have better story than US Coimc Books Cause there always in control of the Creator

Personally I love American comic books, what I like about comic books is they have this level of maturity(most of the time anyways) that all but a very few manga lack. I'm not talking about them being darker, or realistic or what ever. It's just they don't assume their reader ship is stupid (most of the time) characters are usually more sensible, and subtle.

alot of things Manga likes to do even when it's aimed at "mature readers" is do these just juvenile things. For example whenever some one has perform CPR it always turns into a kissing fantasy or like in romance manga the ridiculous miss understandings.

I guess because it's due to the fact that the Majority of people who buy and read manga are younger teenagers where as the target readership for Comic books is almost exclusively men between the age of 18 and 30.



I disagree entirely, Anime and Manga are not immune to different people coming along and messing with Continuity. Look at Gundam, or Dragon Ball, or Lupin the Third. All the big franchises have multiple creative inputs.

Having a new creator is not always a bad thing, fresh blood can often be a huge boon to a stagnate IP. Heck I think Batman comics are hell of alot better now then when Bob Kane was writing them.

I dunno how many times I've seen anime manga with great concepts be the writer is a hack and he can't think of ways to keep his Manga fresh or interesting after so long. Just look at Naruto or Bleach, their like poster boys of manga that should probably get another writer.

Actually,the constant reboots of comic book series only happens (from my knowledge) with the series of Marvel & DC.I'm sure there are plenty of other comics books series that begins & ends with one author.
But there are many comic books that adds to the universe of a pre-existing franchise such as Star Wars.This is one thing I wish happens with certain anime & manga,the only one I can think of this option fitting with is One Piece.

I forgot to ask this question:How many readers & watchers of comic books & animated TV shows wish there was a site like MAL for these?This would be helpful for those who read Marvel or DC comics.

I like cartoons quite a bit. They're pretty easy to keep up with, notable cartoons really don't come out in a great frequency. Comic books are cool too, but I'm not into them as much. Mostly read non-cape comics.

I sometimes read them at lunch time at school library

I mainly watch live action television and film - not much animation aside from some anime and Futurama and Robot Chicken, since most other cartoons are targeted at children. I do really like the animated features Marvel and DC put out, though, like Planet Hulk, Batman: Year One, Ultimate Avengers 1/2, etc, but there's only a few of those that come out each year.

You know, now that I'm reading this thread, I realize I don't really read comic books aside from the occasional graphic novel, but now I'm thinking I should probably go subscribe to Marvel's website and start reading a ton of Captain America comics.

Don't feel alone.I can the # of comic books I've actually read in my whole with my fingers & still have 5 fingers up.I'm also interested in subscribing to Marvel's website,even though it's $60 a year :).There's no place to illegally read comic books for free (unlike the VAST number of manga sites),so I plan to suck it up & pay.

I used to read a lot of Batman comics but then I discovered Neil Gaiman's 'The Sandman', which has to be the best comic series in existence. After reading The Sandman my attention shifted towards comics like Sweet Tooth, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and Y: The Last Man and there were a lot of comics that I intended to read, but my interest slowly waned because of school and whatnot . But yeah, comics are great. I'll probably pick up where I left off after my exams are over.

Yeah, I think you can view them on your Kindle in color, which is nicer than reading scans, but I've never gone through with it because $60 can buy a lot of games on Steam.

I once used to read Ultimate Spider Man, but nothing else

I never thought of comics very highly. I was bored with the Usian superhero drek, and the only comics I sort of liked were actually Italian. But I never actively sought them out, and the first instance of being enamored with a comic was Metabarons. Since then I've been in love with the Jodoverse [google Alejandro Jodorowsky]. By chance, the comic I got with Metabarons was another slice of greatness - Enki Bilal's The Nikopol Trilogy.

Next up there was Sandman. I was a little suspicious [DC], but the unanimous choir of praise compelled me to finally read it, and lo, I saw that it was good. I was so starved for more, in fact, that I read the entire [actually longer] Lucifer spin-off, though it wasn't nearly as good.

After "discovering" manga, I had an urge to see what I have missed out on, and one name particularly stood out. Again. I say again because I've known of Alan Moore and his works for a very long time, but never felt they were interesting enough to explore. Anyway, I decided to give Watchmen a try. I stopped half-way, decidedly unimpressed. I'll probably finish it one day, but I'd take a new chapter of any of the manga series currently on my Reading list over it any day of the week. I'm sure there's other stuff to try out (Maus is one example, some other Vertigo stuff is another starting point), but for now, my curiosity is sated and my manga to read list isn't getting any shorter.

As for shows, I'm in the same boat as the second poster - I prefer non-Japanese humor. Well, a different part of the boat, since I don't find Gintama funny. Funniest moments in anime were in shows that weren't (primarily) comedy.

Edit:
Oh yeah, since "American" is in the title of the topic, I'd thought I'd point out the fact that none of the mentioned comics / authors is Usian, while all the comedy shows are Usian.

I tried reading the first Teen Titans and couldn't get into it's style. I quit after ~15 issues. Maybe I'll try something newer one day.

im talink about the manga its seif not the anime aptaions its not a diffrent Writer came in the Middle Of Ashita no Joe's Print run or ever farer is to compere the manga Kochi Kame to Say X men baoth strated around the same time But Kochi kame has been under the Pen of the the same person who Created the manga since the start [ and how may isuues of X men as Stan lee done [ id say less than 1400]

Uuuhhhh,the amount of bad grammar & bad spelling makes this very confusing to read

I used to be really into the Top Cow universe, and I adore The Sandman series. I'd say I'd be more into comics if they were cheaper, it really is a money issue for me, not a lack of interest. Personally I do prefer manga though, I just think that there's more variety, something to suit every taste and mood.

its my piece on
creators should have full control on there work

I used to read mostly Marvel Comics and occasionally some DC and Image comics a long time ago.I don't anymore.I haven't read an American comic book in almost 14-15 years. I still enjoy the cartoons based on comics. I regularly watch Green Lantern Animated, Young Justice, Transformers Prime, Ultimate Spider man, and the occasional DC and Marvel animate movies.

I never read comics probably because i never liked superheroes. I'll watch some cartoons if i want a quick laugh but it isn't really that satisfying.