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I cried along with Kiritsugu. Poor guy keeps loosing everyone dear to him. ;_; And to know that this will never change is far too heartbreaking. T_T

Kiritsugu has turned his mind into steel.
My full blog post for the episode is here http://goani.me/fate-zero-episode-19/

Kiritsugu. Now I know why you are an emotionless bastard! =/

The conversation with Natalia before shooting down the plane was really bittersweet. It felt like Natalia expected the plane to crash or something. But man, I never thought that Kiritsugu would be the one to bring it down. Damn!

Props for Kerry's seiyuu for that "breaking down" scene. Brought me goosebumps. :)

I expected it from a mile away, but still...its still sad to watch him kill his "parent" figure for the second time.

4/5

I think this flashback arc was the low point for this half so far, but it was a necessary addition :D

So, it looks like the past arc is over.

Now back to action!

Another great look into Kiri's backstory I think. Those ghouls are nasty.

So defensive already?

While I thought it was done well, I didn't like this flashback. Yes, Kiritsugu is the main character, but he hasn't played a prominent enough role (over any of the other characters) in the war yet for me to care for a flashback. His personality was well-established without the use of his past, and I wasn't interested in seeing how it was developed. Of course, this is my opinion, and was already recognized as inferior before its existence. I expect lots of angry responses on why I must change it.

Lets see if my response is like that then.
The point is that from here on it's all about Kirei and Kiritsugu.Kariya and Waver will be the same as before in screentime.And you need those eps for the last ep(probably the last 2 eps)as things change dramatically around him(and inside).Without those flashbacks we would be like Kirei wondering "Why oes this man fight","Why do these women protect him","" .

You can also see it this way:If it wasnt for these 2 eps FZ would be23 episodes long.

Quick though: was Kiritsugu's mentality after the shit that happened from last episode and the info of this episode like so….”Fuck everything as long as I can put to rest what started my Hell and rest….” could it be he lives only to stop all this for his FIRST LOVE! That would be Shirley as he blushed at that part in the last episode?

Can it be though of like that of his mental change?

Well, noticed I said "yet". The problem I have with these responses is that you must bring in future events. While I don't read spoilers, your first few sentences are enough for me to speculate what will happen. While I don't care too much, it has no place in a discussion of this episode and before. Just like how this episode had no impact on me within the context of what has occurred thus far. Whether or not it becomes necessary in the future is irrelevant as of now. With this flashback, disregarding what may or may not happen in the future, you are still left to wonder "why this man fight," and "why do these women protect him."

No I dont think so.He literally breaks down after Natalia's death unlike what happened with Shirley.When he left the island he just seemed cold for a kid that was playing around before all hell broke loose.And in 1st season he asks Iri if he should grab her and Ilya and run away from all that so I doubt that Shirley is what keeps him going.

I should have mentioned it then could it be his mentality change after Natalia's death. Clearly a lot of shit that is happening is partially due to the competition of this whole ROOT and Holy Grail relics. So he would naturally to avenge both deaths of Justice itself to stop this whole thing altogether. NO MATTER WHAT. That is obvious from his aggressive stance on it.

NEED GERMAN HELP! For the spoilerit's in German. I think element is fire. Rest I don't know. Bonus Brownie points with Milk for anyone that can feed what is written there.

But how can you say that it is irrelevant?That's what i dont get.And if you still wondering why he fights and why Iri and Maiya support him then you missed the point of those 2 eps plus some dialogues between him and Iri.

Because you're tying in something that has not happened yet. Whether or not it will be relevant or not will depend on what happens. As of this episode, its only purpose was to flesh out the reason behind Kiritsugu's personality, a purpose which I stated I don't care for as a personal opinion.

So you mean all those that wonder "why is he such an asshole"since ep16 didnt find any purpose to this ep ?or how the info kirei had about him connect to those eps?

You'd have to ask the people that wondered that then. I didn't, and I don't see how other people's opinion has an effect on mine. The type of person he is was previously established. Whether or not you care about the reason behind it partly depends on how much you care for Kiritsugu as a character. I didn't, to that extent. Full circle.

just perfect. kitsurugu killed a important person to him to save other peoples. that's determination
5/5

Some people just didn't care about that character. Thus, it's a boring episode to watch for them. People have to understand that if someone don't care about a character, an episode featuring uniquely that character would be extremely boring. That's essentially how I felt about the entire season of Madoka.

Last thing we want to see here is a fan vs. hater argumentation between those who like and dislike Kiritsugu.

Now, this episode was a bit slower in pace but had a very touching build-up. It didn't really bring anything new to Kiritsugu's character but it's a nice break from the usual pacing. Good episode. Need to bump the scoring at this speed.

tbh the problem is that they stretched half a chapters worth of material into an episode which seemed almost filler like
perhaps if they merged it with a bit of heart of freaks then i would find it acceptable

heres my interpretation:

natalia's death is quite similar to HF

natalia was killed by his own hands so of course it was going to have more of an impact on him

I've enjoyed this episode, all in all, very, very good execution. In that last moment, Natalia made a little smile...
btw, great music during initial airplane scenes, great CGI for water & rocket hitting the plane.