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Feb 20, 2010 7:49 AM

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Can't quite understand the love of this movie here. It was too one dimensional (the other characters/arcs made the TV more interesting to watch), the emotion shown by the characters is no where near as strong as the TV series, it felt a bit too rushed at times, and the animation was quite inconsistent. If you are doing an adaptation of the VN, then not following what it was showing as a theme (the summer arc, although not greatly executed in the TV series, was of huge importance to the story, as was Sora) is only going to downgrade the quality of it.
Feb 23, 2010 9:59 AM

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Meh, it was okay.
This adaption was crap compared to KyoAni's TV-anime. It was rushed and all the romance just felt unnecessary. Not nearly as emotional as the TV-anime either. Some of the soundtrack felt out of place at a few scenes and I hate Toei's character designs and art - they just spam as much lightning in there as possible.

If I hadn't watched the TV-anime, I would probably have felt very lost during the movie. The parts with Kanna and Ryuuya were not developed at all. And the ending is a lot more powerful in the series.

Oh well, I wasn't expecting much since, imo, Toei completely fucked up Clannad as well.
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I surprisingly enjoyed this movie. I liked that the character designs didn't look totally retarded and how they didn't focus too much on the moe bullshit.

And by the way, how is it even possable to screw up Clannad? Did they actually make it good or something?
May 17, 2010 12:19 PM

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Well.. I honestly liked the movie more. I like how there was more romance and interaction between characters that fit...

There were moments in the TV series where I was like, "That Character wouldnt say that/do that"...etc

BUT the series has better animation IMO and Yukito turning into Sora (although in the movie it is VERY subtle in implying it... so it's there) was done in the series, I liked that.

Overall, due to it's strengths and weaknesses, I'll give this movie an 8/10, same I did for both Air and Air in Summer. Glad to have stumbled upon this series.
Jun 30, 2010 9:37 AM

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we are all forgetting a very important thing guys. THEY ACTUALLY KISS! Personally, I love Kyoani's animation of it but I love how the movie focuses on Yukito and Misuzu, her advances on Yukito were so cute. And also a Ryuuya and Kanna KISS! The only bit I don't like about the series is the sad ending and the lack of powerful kissing scenes. The movie satisfied the latter but unfortunately, the ending cant be changed.

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Jul 6, 2010 11:51 AM

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i liked more the movie than the serie ><
and felt more sad to me
Jul 29, 2010 9:54 AM
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I preferred this to the TV series, it cut out all the unnecessary, confusing crap and you were able to focus on the main story more. 8/10 I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Sep 5, 2010 7:36 AM

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I loved this.. T.T
Nov 20, 2010 11:48 AM
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Ending always gets to me :/

Great movie.
Nov 21, 2010 10:58 AM

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i liked the movie than the anime
mainly because there wasnt romance in the anime.
and i dont really like SHY GIRLS
here in the movie Misuzu looked so sluty and btchy lol
i like that =D
Mar 1, 2011 3:06 PM

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Unlike so many others...

This didn't work for me.

a. Art & Animation

Okay, the style is a matter of taste in the first place. I wasn't too fond of the series' style either, but it was working way better for me than this.
But the most annoying thing was the animation. It simply was sloppy in so many scenes that it made me cringe. It's a movie, goddamnit, why not handle it with due diligence?!

b. Characters

First of all, the TV show made me feel for Misuzu, even though I was not particularly fond of her, but that just shows that it got the job done, and even quite well at that.
But this...
It's been some time since I watched the TV show, so I wasn't too tempted to compare the two, but still, it became obvious that things were left out and that some things were touched upon - but only briefly.

Why put in Sora? He was superfluous in this movie!

The conflict with Misuzu's father at the end. It didn't have any real consequences and felt rushed.

Haruko. I liked her best in the show, but she was just...shallow here, there was no real depth to her. Why cut out the conflict that was so important in characterizing her relationship with Misuzu?
In the movie, she was shown to be caring at the start, and then, in another scene, she only returns home in the evening although Misuzu is sick and is depicted as careless, and the very next scene presents her in yet another light.

All of the characters were acting so inconsistently, but not in a "I've changed!"-way but rather in a "Oh, there was this in the VN, we might touch upon it briefly"-way which didn't make sense in many scenes.
Yukito's sudden changes of mind regarding Misuzu were barely comprehensible.
I just didn't get to care about the characters very much.
Take Kanna and Ryuuya, fore exmaple. Their story was so cheesy and underdeveloped at the same time that I didn't really want to get any more on them than what was already shown; it was too over the top for me.

It felt like they wanted to tell a different story but then threw in bits and pieces of the show which then didn't fit in with the new stuff.
All in all, I somehow also felt like I was watching the show backwards. I don't know.

Just...no.
SaorinMar 1, 2011 3:16 PM


Apr 11, 2011 12:38 AM

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Just wanted to say that I pretty much agree with everything you stated in your post, Saorin.

While I preferred the art and animation from KyoAni in the TV series, most of it here in the movie was fine. The only thing I didn't care too much for were the manga-like still scenes. Perhaps there were just too many of those, and "less is more" might apply here.

As far as characters/relationships go, the (initially) more distant relationship between Misuzu and Haruko and how that relationship evolves in the TV series evoked more emotion (at least for me) than their relationship in the movie. The romantic relationships between Misuzu and Yukito (as well as Ryuuya and Kanna) also didn't work as well for me compared to the respective, less romantic relationships in the series.



Even with all of the above said, I still enjoyed this movie as an alternate telling of Air. I appreciated some of the little added background scenes, such as seeing Misuzu asking for and receiving her picture book assignment for the summer, or seeing where Misuzu went to school earlier, etc... All I can say is the series evoked deeper emotional connections with the characters for me.

Still, 8/10 for the movie for me.
Dec 10, 2011 12:56 PM

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different from series...
and too painful for me, here is more love but is ending awful, the girl is dead, I liked Misuzu, but...I'm very sad
of course for those who don't understand the series the movie is better

8/10
Jun 10, 2012 1:31 PM

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Pretty good movie, liked it way more than the series.
Jun 27, 2012 10:57 AM
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The movie felt bit rushed at some parts and there wasn't much characterization. It was decent, but I prefer how it was portrayed in the anime series better.
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Jul 28, 2012 7:04 AM

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This movie was excellent some changes from the TV series but IMO much better than the series that they managed to put the same things in 1:30 hours!

A fantastic movie of this Anime! 9/10
Aug 26, 2012 1:02 AM
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It was ok. I liked the series better, since it was longer, so it was more detailed about everything. Did like the movie though.
Nov 7, 2012 9:27 PM

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Well, this is rather less confusing than in the TV series but I still like them both.


Dec 29, 2012 5:20 AM
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Series was a lot better but movie was okay. Again everyone seems to think this movie was trash, like the Clannad movie. In pales in comparison to the anime, definetely, but it had some good moments, a couple even better than the series. However the ending in this was downright disappointing. It all went far too quickly and it missed the point of the anime. So, not bad but it could have been better. I kind of like the Clannad movie a bit better because it had a better cast and had more entertaining moments.
Dec 31, 2012 3:55 AM

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oh so sad man just like anime :'(
Apr 20, 2013 10:59 AM
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Got these feelings when movie is really better than serial, the last 5 minutes were so dramatical like as in Clannad: AS, so that's making that title just an easy win.
Oct 2, 2013 9:05 PM

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I'm not sure why I preferred this over the TV series years ago. This has actually made me appreciate the series much more. I liked how they focused on Misuzu and avoided unnecessary harem side stories, but I felt so many scenes were executed much better in the TV series, especially the resolution with the father. I also felt Kanna and Ryuuya's story was a bit bland and lacking.

I realize they aired around the same time so naturally they would be different interpretations, but I prefer KyoAni's version after all. Originally had this scored at a 9, but reducing it to a 7/10. This has actually made me change my score to Air TV as well, moving that from a 7 to an 8/10.
Dec 17, 2013 5:32 PM
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I'm not sure why I preferred this over the TV series years ago. This has actually made me appreciate the series much more. I liked how they focused on Misuzu and avoided unnecessary harem side stories...


I too prefer the TV series years ago but after rewatching it again but this time with the movie first then TV, I personally think the movie has done a great job in most parts than tv series. I think this is just a case of what you have seen first, giving it a preference to what you have seen great specifically that last episode of Air. This consequently for one to lose interest with the movie since you know how the story will end and not give it a whole different perspective of what its done great compared to the other. Watching it multiple times and giving it a time gap in between will made you realize that one medium (which is in this case the movie) is not bad after all and can be considered a much superior to the tv series.

People who have high expectation with this series tend to say at the end that it disappoints and somehow confused which to me is understandable given that KyoAni failed at this adaptation. How I just wish Air to have a remake and have much longer episodes if they are going to cover side characters rather than fit it in a 13 episode. There is that mysterious element present in this anime compared to Kanon2006 and Clannad which made its story a bit more enticing than the latter anime. But sadly, this doesn't fully convey to every person who watch this series.

To anyone who will watch this series, please watch the movie instead rather than the tv series. And please don't compare Air tv series to Kanon2006 and Clannad, it's an injustice to the series and I will say it again if you don't understand the story, blame KyoAni. That's how they fail at their first Key series.
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Mar 27, 2014 8:30 PM

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I really can't tell which one I liked more, this or the TV series. Regardless, does anyone know if this is what the "true" route is in the Air VN? I haven't played it so.
May 20, 2014 8:40 AM

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For me, movie is better than TV version (except the animation, which is actually horrible).
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Jun 9, 2014 7:41 AM

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I haven't seen the series and I liked this enough to watch the series.



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Aug 31, 2014 1:33 AM

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I saw the series awhile back and determined the movie is actually better than the series. The pacing and flow of the series is flawed to the point of being boring at times. Though series was deeper, more complex and I kind of respect it more for what it tried to do, coupled with the fact it has a significantly more tragic ending that made the final few episodes downright harrowing, I think that actually works against the series in some ways. The movie was more simple and perhaps less respectable, but that very simpleness allows one to appreciate it for what it is more than the series.

I think all of the extra stuff the series tried to add but didn't fully explore really weighs it down. The puny 2 episode arcs, for example, may serve to achieve a real "ooohhhhh" moment when you begin connecting things together at the end of the series, but they didn't accomplish much except adding extra, needless fluff at the time of watching them. If they would've been more elaborate they would've helped, but they weren't. By cutting all this fluff out, the movie just ends up being more earnest and, because of that, enjoyable.

Like I said, I really respect the series for what it tried to do, but the execution was really subpar. The movie just has much better execution. I will say, however, that I would not love Yukito and Misuzu nearly as much as I do if it wasn't for the series.



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Mar 20, 2015 10:10 PM
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I liked that Yukito and Misuzu's relationship was more focused in this version, however I just can't get over what they did to Haruko. She was my favorite character from the series and felt she wasn't really done justice in this version. She fakes hating Misuzu, but after that they never show her rekindle her relationship with her.
Feb 22, 2016 4:35 PM

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Toei can't animate, that's all. The TV version is so much better, in every aspect.
(I've just re-watched both "skipping")
Feb 26, 2016 8:10 PM
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I actually like the movie much better than the series. The series was got kind of muddy towards the end.
If you have the choice of watching the series or the movie I would rather watch the movie again.
Jan 24, 2017 11:01 PM
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Toei can't animate, that's all. The TV version is so much better, in every aspect.


Those sakura petals on Kanna x thatguy ( I can't remember the guy's name because literally everything on this movie is forgettable, lol ) and those leaves when the main guy goes to a train in the last moments were irritating as fuck. The repetition on their moves were terribly done. Everything is too bright. Everything sucks here. I even fall asleep on some parts =="

1/10. I don't know will the series end up the same way, because I haven't watch the series. I probably would.
May 9, 2017 8:08 PM
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This was so much better than the show. They focused on Yukito and Misuzu's relationship and built onto it. The romance felt genuine. Yukito, too, was much more likable; he was far more determined to help Misuzu, and loved her, even after letting her go, he rushes back to save her; that part when he punched her dad in the stomach was such a "HELL YEAH!" moment.
The way they spliced the backstory throughout the film in between Yukito and Misuzu's story was a brilliant way to do it; this way, it feels even more connected to their story. In the TV series, it just felt tacked onto the end, and I hated it; I wanted to see more Yukito and Misuzu, and this film did just that. Getting rid of the other girls was also a good choice so that the emphasis on Misuzu's narrative was stronger.
Not to mention, Yukito doesn't turn into the bird, but the bird was a separate character; I like that. I always hated how Yukito just disappeared in the TV version, but in this film, he, too, together with Haruko, was there to see Misuzu in her final moments.

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I liked that Yukito and Misuzu's relationship was more focused in this version, however I just can't get over what they did to Haruko. She was my favorite character from the series and felt she wasn't really done justice in this version. She fakes hating Misuzu, but after that they never show her rekindle her relationship with her.


Indeed, Haruko's character was the only aspect of this movie that was worse than the TV version. But other than her character, this film excelled in all the places that TV failed at.
Excellent film; a little shoddy with the animation at parts, but the story and character elements were amazing. Also, Misuzu is so much prettier in this film, Toei Animation really fixed her face.
Aug 16, 2018 10:04 AM

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Loved it. It made perfect sense, not like what happened in the series which was really dissapointing because I enjoyed the first half of it a lot. This is everything I wanted the series to be except the art was sub-par. Non the less, very touching.
Aug 30, 2020 9:11 AM
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If i recall, i hated this version of Misuzu because i saw the TV ver. first and was used to the childish, shyish cute side of hers and to begin with it was meant to be an innocent love story but then again you cant compare the two but i am going off of the original source. This version of hers looked older, mature and was aggressive with her advances which is why is despised this alterate version because i preferred the first.
Dec 5, 2020 6:12 PM
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At least yukito didn't die in this version.
Jan 5, 2021 7:38 AM
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It's so bright it's like no game no life but in 2005 lol
Hmm overall pretty good movie but the TV version is sure a better choice, the story felt too rushed, only 1h30 for this kind of story is not much, but well it was still a fine movie
Aug 30, 2021 7:54 AM

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Much better than the TV version. I don't see why so many people shit on this movie.

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