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May 9, 2012 6:53 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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That form is truly creepy
 
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May 9, 2012 6:55 AM

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just.. wow.. o.O
 
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May 9, 2012 7:01 AM

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Nice to see that the angel-theme with quincies is continued and Allon, considering he was strong enough for yama to step in is quite frankly thing I hoped to see again.

So I guess the forms those "quincies" use are closer to the Magic Hunters of the old.

now I would not be surprised if Royal Realm is indeed a jail. If "quincies"/Magic Hunters ruled SS before shinigami and shinigami overtook them, somehow sealing in the "Soul King" and keeping him sealed through some means(feeding the lock shinigami?) it would certainly explain it all. It would also explain the angel-like appearance of quincies, including the idea of them using archery(the thing associated with angels) as well as why shinigami are thematically "demonic" in contrast to "angelic" quincies.

So I guess the "magic hunters" are the original Archangels and quincies are in sense, their servants, humans given angelic power, just like in the actual hebrew lore.

Which makes his eyes fit too, since anyone who looks upon archangel would either go insane or get his eyes burned out by the horrifying presence in the mythos.

Also gotta love smart and stable Ichigo. He is not even going bankai yet and the whole thing did not even seem to injure him and he is trying to find out stuff about whose quincies, etc. so he does not have to make the first move, nor rush blindly.
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May 9, 2012 7:14 AM

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May 9, 2012 7:27 AM

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Hmm. It was good and entertaining.
I liked how Opie commented that executioners should look horrifying.
“See the good in that which is evil, and the evil in that which is good.
Pledge yourself to neither side, but vow instead to preserve the balance that exists between the two.”
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May 9, 2012 7:38 AM

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That Quincy bankai isn't eerie at all, it makes him look more like a campy villain with those wings and shoes. His eyes are really creepy, on the other hand.
 
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May 9, 2012 7:58 AM

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I got a "Tower of God" feeling from this chapter,
pretty good. Best of the big three this week, weird.

 
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May 9, 2012 8:05 AM

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Now... I wonder what kind of power up will Ichigo get >_>
 
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May 9, 2012 8:08 AM

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Now... I wonder what kind of power up will Ichigo get >_>


"mugetsu" that is not achieved by FGT, as parallel to Ishida getting his own unlimited final form.


I am still convinced that Ichigo's strongest form will be used to break into the royal dimension to fight the king as the very end of the arc(as Ichigo's powers have been shown to be very effective in cutting through various dimensional barriers)
 
May 9, 2012 8:09 AM

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Liked this chapter.Shinigamies,Angels,Demons now turn to come for Jesus :D :D
 
May 9, 2012 8:29 AM

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Jesus as a Bleach character...makes sense since he gets revived for no reason and gets power-ups all the time.

 
May 9, 2012 8:48 AM

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Ichigo said it, it looks disgusting and nice joke about killing Ishida if he transformed into that haha

Here I thought why they didn't use Ayon, that thing was so creepy back then and it still is, it looks different, too.

I wonder why the Quincy said treacherous.
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May 9, 2012 9:22 AM

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Aww shittt
 
May 9, 2012 9:40 AM

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Damn it. I was expecting Ichigo's hollowfication.
Not that monster. Seriously.

If there is no Grimmjow, then show Ichigo's hollowfication instead!
 
May 9, 2012 10:07 AM

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I thought it was Grimmjow who finally showed up but it turns out to be just Ayon and the three girls are still not down lol
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May 9, 2012 10:19 AM

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Is this just going to be the norm for this arc? Some new attack gets built up to be powerful and than does nothing? Because it's getting annoying and this is only the second time it's happened. Than again, it was annoying the first time it happened too.
 
May 9, 2012 10:56 AM

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Oh man, what a lame ending...
 
May 9, 2012 11:06 AM

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Did Ichigo try to cut his head and he said "you should aim before slashing"? Wow. making him so strong and then bringing back three stooges. what kubo is thinking? That was almost time for grimmjow.
 
May 9, 2012 11:17 AM

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Fai said:
"mugetsu" that is not achieved by FGT, as parallel to Ishida getting his own unlimited final form.


You mean he could use Mugestu without FGT? So then what was unique about the FGT?
 
May 9, 2012 11:48 AM

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That Ayon won't do probably nothing...
Still waiting for Grimmjow to appear.
Let's see how this goes.
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May 9, 2012 12:04 PM

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"Treacherous Shinigami" and "Holy Executioners". Vandereichs are so superrace.
Can't get enough of the bad Nazi analogy.
 
May 9, 2012 12:45 PM

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THE MOSNTER HAS REVIVED!!
 
May 9, 2012 12:49 PM

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Those wings... Eternal Sailor Moon, can't think of anything else when I see it :<
AND NOT THAT CREEPY MONSTER AGAIN!
I hate it T_T

Wagamama nano desu, boku wa neko dakara ne~
 
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You mean he could use Mugestu without FGT? So then what was unique about the FGT?

He became getsuga.
 
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InfiniteDestiny said:
Fai said:
"mugetsu" that is not achieved by FGT, as parallel to Ishida getting his own unlimited final form.


You mean he could use Mugestu without FGT? So then what was unique about the FGT?


well what is unique about the final form of Quincies too? so same thing both final getsuga tenshou and that final form of quincies are once in a lifetime activation

so if Fai here is right on the money that Ichigo can evolve the final getusga tenshou to be continuously use like the new quincy form shown here then that will be cool
 
May 9, 2012 3:35 PM

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lmao...not that thing again!

Ayon prob won't do shit and the 3 stooges will become fodder...yet again....those 3 kinda ruined the ending..

And I was sooo hoping it was Grimmjow instead of those 3...now that would of made for a proper chapter ending.
 
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Well Ichigo wasn't struggling...but i just wished he wold have cut that guy up...doesn't look like he'll reveal anything of much mportance....as for that's guys Quincy form...not to my liking in all honesty.

And to what Fai said at him not using Bankai...seriously only just noticed that here rofl...well guess that just shows the difference in power.

So Urahara mentioned all of this about the to Ichi before huh? Well not surprised too much at that.
And what

The return of Ayon as well now huh? Well that I didn't expect...though I still hope Ichigo is the one to finish that Quincy...

Well look forward to the next chapter anyways ;o
 
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THE MOSNTER HAS REVIVED!!

Ahhaha yes! lol why is ichigo not finihing him fast?;)
 
May 9, 2012 4:22 PM

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So I guess the Quincy owning Aion is going to show how powerful that form truly is. I still can't help but think of these latest chapters as bad fanfiction with all of the old characters being brought back but the weird part is Kubo isn't bringing back any of the characters people want to see. As much as I think Grimjow shouldn't really come back because his character arc is over, if you're going to bring someone back make it him instead of these Arancars no one cares about.

Also the Nazi are just too much. It's so stupid and makes the writing of these short chapters look amateurish. Kubo was never a great story teller but he used to be able to design some cool characters but now that skill seem to have been lost because the Quincy final form looks stupid as hell.
 
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mootjee said:
tailsxyakumo said:
THE MOSNTER HAS REVIVED!!

Ahhaha yes! lol why is ichigo not finihing him fast?;)
It's Bleach. Oh, and information gathering. But more obviously, because this is Bleach.

I hope the other Volstandig aren't this fugly. We don't need Charlotte Coolhorn (whatever Barragan's fraccion that fought Yumechika was called) again.
 
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All I can say is... FUCK YEAH!
 
May 9, 2012 6:13 PM

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InfiniteDestiny said:
Fai said:
"mugetsu" that is not achieved by FGT, as parallel to Ishida getting his own unlimited final form.


You mean he could use Mugestu without FGT? So then what was unique about the FGT?

Nothing.

FGT is already said to be a shortcut to the full potential of shinigami sword. Its one time deal where you unlock the best stuff without working for it and then lose it all. Its the shortcut to the "ultimate form of shinigami" ad there are clear paralels to Ishida using his in that both of them seem and look unfinished.

Its something unique to that very bloodline of -getsu sword users...Just like Ishida's final form.

His mugetsu form is also used to parallel angelic quincy forms as being more demonic.

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Damn it. I was expecting Ichigo's hollowfication.
Not that monster. Seriously.

If there is no Grimmjow, then show Ichigo's hollowfication instead!


He does not have it. He unified his powers.
 
May 9, 2012 7:17 PM

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In overall i liked the chapter, but ending sawk'd.
 
May 9, 2012 8:05 PM

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Allon or Ayon here seems like a way to show power lvl of this new Quincy guy. Back then hew was super strong and able to trash probably most of VC without Bankai. I wonder if Allon can get stronger with time and constant re summoning and if Release of Tress Bestia can power him up.

I want to see if this Quincy can play with Allon same way Yamamoto did. First point goes to Allon.
 
May 9, 2012 8:34 PM

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This chapter left me really impressed about the power of the enemy! And finally the Fates Arrankars invoked the Chimera, the battle will be very cool now. And I conclude that Ishida, meanwhile, does not seem to be on the side of Vanderreichs, however it should already be aware of their existence.
 
May 9, 2012 8:39 PM

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What a boring chapter. Ichigo hasn't even gone bankai yet and now this no name piece of shit moose thing nobody cares about from minor characters nobody cares about is fighting the Quincy instead of him.
 
May 9, 2012 10:34 PM

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Wow I totally forgot about Ayon. That would have been interesting if it was just a wild hollow that ripped the Quincy apart and left.

Pretty enjoyable chapter. Like Fai said I found it cool that Ichigo hasn't felt the need to bankai yet.
 
May 10, 2012 4:55 AM

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Ayon appearing was something i actually liked because it would have been stupid if those three actually lost without using their best weapon.
Now i hope he won't get one shoted by that quincy because it would be lame. That monster is suppose to be strong, a bunch of vice captains together couldn't handle it so i want it to at least cause some trouble.
 
May 10, 2012 5:10 AM

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Those shoes looked damn weird.
 
May 10, 2012 5:38 AM

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A bit too much German in this chapter for me...Kubo should restrain himself a lil more.
Anyways - some fairly decent action we got here. The Quincy dude emerging from the smoke gave an pretty badass impression. Not sure what to think about Ayon's reappearance though, we'll see.

An pretty solid chapter overall. It was rather on the good side.
 
May 10, 2012 8:20 AM

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May 10, 2012 8:22 AM

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Oh that's right! I had forgotten (but you all reminded me) Grimmjow is going to be returning.
Yeah, it's funny how one moment Ichigo is the strongest fcking thing in the world and then to the next enemy he's so weak. He's probably going to need some help with this fight.
 
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Surprisingly, I found this week's chapter to be pretty decent. I didn't quite get why Ichigo missed the quincy's head while his blade was right next to it. And as other people have mentioned, Ayon is gonna do shit.

I have a thought though. Orihime heals their arms back. They use it to summon another Ayon. Repeat process. Infinite Ayons. Rule world.

By the way, anyone remember that guy that was underground in the hollow place Rukia promised to come back for him? I have a feeling that Kubo hasn't forgotten about him.
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My reaction to most of Fai's posts.

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May 10, 2012 9:24 PM

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My reaction to most of Fai's posts.



You hate Fai's posts... please do tell me how yours are more coherent and sensical than his.
 
May 10, 2012 10:29 PM

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Maddo_scientisto said:
nooblet606 said:
My reaction to most of Fai's posts.



You hate Fai's posts... please do tell me how yours are more coherent and sensical than his.


Fai posts make Bleach more interesting :D Got me past the boring parts till now.
 
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I guess it's not a hate. Why Fai certainly loves Bleach he sometimes presents even his wildest theories as a facts. So to me for example, these posts are often amusing and I always come back to these threads even when I stopped actually reading Bleach(after Aizen's fiasco).

 
May 11, 2012 7:26 AM

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Whenever I see that Quincy with the glasses I just think of all the enemies in Crash Bandicoot who wear glasses xD
 
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Maddo_scientisto said:
nooblet606 said:
My reaction to most of Fai's posts.



You hate Fai's posts... please do tell me how yours are more coherent and sensical than his.

That looks more like a 'mind=blown' image than a 'I hate them' image to me.
If any of my posts seem odd, it's probably because I'm tired. Sorry. I have sleeping issues.
 
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sillyriri said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
nooblet606 said:
My reaction to most of Fai's posts.



You hate Fai's posts... please do tell me how yours are more coherent and sensical than his.

That looks more like a 'mind=blown' image than a 'I hate them' image to me.


Yeah well it's obviously a 'mind=blown' image but the guy look like his mind is blown out of blatant stupidity rather than something that do make sense.
 
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