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05-08-12, 8:15 AM

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phoenixalia said:
does anyone know whether it was a high level or low level project?

In terms of what, budget and sales expectations and such? The first season got a sequel on only 4,824 average, so I'm assuming it wasn't expected to be a 10k seller or anything like that.
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05-08-12, 8:17 AM

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Gotta say I'm disappointed with Kannagi sales... I guess the Otaku still harbor a grudge against her being impure? I dunno, but it sure doesn't give me hope for a 2nd season.

 
05-08-12, 8:27 AM

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Anzu's track is still selling however

http://andriasang.com/con0wp/complete_gacha_ban_effect/

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/07/japanese-social-games-risk-seeing-crackdown/

The game itself might be discontinued since it's a compu-gacha and a blatant one at that.


 
05-08-12, 8:27 AM

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jmal said:
phoenixalia said:
does anyone know whether it was a high level or low level project?

In terms of what, budget and sales expectations and such? The first season got a sequel on only 4,824 average, so I'm assuming it wasn't expected to be a 10k seller or anything like that.


thank you for always answering my questions friend! :)

Hmm...so even in the first season it didn't sell that well huh? So I presume like you said they didn't expect great sales this time either....hmmm...

but if it doesn't sell well, why did they give it a second reason? rather...IF it was a high level project? And what IS the minimum for a low level anime anyway?
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05-08-12, 8:31 AM

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Hoppy said:
Anzu's track is still selling however

http://andriasang.com/con0wp/complete_gacha_ban_effect/

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/07/japanese-social-games-risk-seeing-crackdown/

The game itself might be discontinued since it's a compu-gacha and a blatant one at that.


As much as I like Idolmaster, thats probably a good thing. I completely hate that kind of selling tactic in general because its very sleazy.

 
05-08-12, 8:36 AM

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RyanSaotome said:
Hoppy said:
Anzu's track is still selling however

http://andriasang.com/con0wp/complete_gacha_ban_effect/

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/07/japanese-social-games-risk-seeing-crackdown/

The game itself might be discontinued since it's a compu-gacha and a blatant one at that.


As much as I like Idolmaster, thats probably a good thing. I completely hate that kind of selling tactic in general because its very sleazy.


I agree however the game itself should not be abandoned completely and I wouldn't mind Cinderella Girls ported to a handheld with extra features (SE ported FM 2089 to the DS no probs).

They could and should port it to the 3DS or Vita, 3DS would be a better idea since it would be cheaper and faster to port a game like this to the 3DS.


 
05-08-12, 9:31 AM

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now i want 5th season of natsume..
and second for danshi koukousei..

 
05-08-12, 9:53 AM

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Rinne is pretty much dead :(
 
05-08-12, 9:58 AM

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jmal said:
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Yeah Kill Me Baby! Keep clawing your way up there!
No one is buying it. Do you not see the sales numbers?

It had to be sarcasm, based on the fact that this volume sold a whole 1 copy more than the previous. Proof that KMB is on the way up!! (Kidding, of course.)


Oh I see. :)

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05-08-12, 10:35 AM

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phoenixalia said:
but if it doesn't sell well, why did they give it a second reason? rather...IF it was a high level project? And what IS the minimum for a low level anime anyway?

It's all about whether or not a profit is made. Not to oversimplify it but:

If a show costs ¥150,000,000 to produce 13 episodes (a rough average estimate) then you need to sell a given amount to break even and pay the bills.
But if another show costs ¥500,000,000 because it's higher budget than normal, with more marketing and better animation and top tier staff/cast and so forth, it is going to need to sell much more.

Complicating this is that DVD and BD sales are by no means the only source of revenue, or even the most important for some (many) shows. Say Show A sells only 3000/vol on DVD/BD but also moves thousands of high cost PVC figures, gets international licensing revenue, boosts sales of the original novels/manga/games 250%, and pushes 20k units of OP/ED. Show A is going to see much better return on investment for its production committee than Show B that averaged 6000/vol but doesn't make inroads with other revenue streams.

And of course you need to consider the cost of the discs. You don't need to sell as many ¥9240 discs as ¥6300 discs to make the same amount of money. For example, Mononoke averaged 12,879 and made ¥305.3 million. Whereas Sengoku Basara 2 averaged virtually the same (12,952) and made ¥551.5 million, nearly double. (Prices measured at MSRP, obviously the cut going back to the production committee is less, about 46% by one estimate after retailer cut and paying people who need to be paid).

It's basically impossible to cite a good minimum... but it is true that, just statistically speaking, late night TV anime rarely get sequels if average disc sales are below ~3000 per volume, and even then it's not really "expected" until closer to 6-7k.
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05-08-12, 2:33 PM

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*3, 1,106 *,**1,106 Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou vol.2
*4, 1,087 *,*10,294 Gintama' vol.10

Yes!


*3, 21,461 *21,461 Sakamichi no Apollon "Sakamichi no Melody"
28, *3,714 **3,714 Hyouka "Yasashisa no Riyuu"
44, *1,549 *13,905 Kuroko no Basket "Can Do"
47, *1,420 **6,481 Mouretsu Pirates "Black Holy"

What?? Kuroko's music is doing badly... but the opening is so good! I love the song. I'm addicted. :O

Grats to Sakamichi no Apollon and Hyouka. Nice music.

Moretsu's not doing bad either. :D
 
05-08-12, 2:36 PM

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What?? Kuroko's music is doing badly... but the opening is so good! I love the song. I'm addicted. :O

13,905 isn't bad at all, unless the OP was done by some mainstream act that was expected to sell a lot more.
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05-09-12, 7:54 AM

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oh so would like a second season for kannagi
 
05-09-12, 9:33 AM

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Single CD
11, 11,801 *46,845 Detective Conan Movie 16: The Eleventh Striker "Haruuta"
12, *9,918 **9,918 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "Sora wa Takaku Kaze wa Utau"
21, *5,254 *37,066 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "to the beginning"
28, *3,714 **3,714 Hyouka "Yasashisa no Riyuu"
36, *2,998 *23,866 Natsuiro Kiseki "Non stop road" "Asu e no Kaerimichi"
39, *2,146 *17,461 Hanazawa Kana "Hoshizora☆Destination"
44, *1,549 *13,905 Kuroko no Basket "Can Do"


Wow Fate/Zero 2nd season ED is more popular than OP!!! I like both songs, so it's fine, though.



That's not necessarily the case. Sora wa Takaku sold more because it was released after TTB, hence TTB's sales diminished with time while it the ED was released last week so its sales hasn't decreased that much yet.
 
05-09-12, 9:48 AM

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Miya_F_Exia said:
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Wow Fate/Zero 2nd season ED is more popular than OP!!! I like both songs, so it's fine, though.

That's not necessarily the case. Sora wa Takaku sold more because it was released after TTB, hence TTB's sales diminished with time while it the ED was released last week so its sales hasn't decreased that much yet.

Yeah, someone forgot to look at the cumulative totals.

12, *9,918 **9,918 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "Sora wa Takaku Kaze wa Utau"
21, *5,254 *37,066 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "to the beginning"

Or rather, better to compare Week 1 with Week 1:
[2012-04-30]12, *9,918 **9,918 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "Sora wa Takaku Kaze wa Utau"
[2012-04-16] 11, 23,763 *23,763 Fate/Zero 2nd Season "to the beginning"

OP is selling far more than the ED. Although neither is looking to be anywhere near Oath Sign.
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05-09-12, 1:46 PM

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Shocking. I actually thought Kajiura + Kalafina would outsell LiSA easily...
I LiSA really that big of an idol over there in Japan?
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05-09-12, 2:01 PM

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It makes me sad that Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou is not selling well cause that means no season 2. T_T
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05-09-12, 2:05 PM

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Sir_Lexa said:
Shocking. I actually thought Kajiura + Kalafina would outsell LiSA easily...
I LiSA really that big of an idol over there in Japan?


She's not really that big. But in my opinion, it was a far better song than anything that the 2nd season has had. So I'm not surprised to see it outsell S2s songs.

Oath Sign was my favorite OP/ED of 2011.
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05-09-12, 2:10 PM

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Sir_Lexa said:
Shocking. I actually thought Kajiura + Kalafina would outsell LiSA easily...
I LiSA really that big of an idol over there in Japan?

Angel Beats! music sold phenomenally well in all forms, LiSA or otherwise, so that certainly got her well known at least in anisong circles. I think that Oath Sign being the OP to the first cour/season is a bit of an advantage too, as sales attrition over time is normal.
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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I would rejoice so much if Natsume would sell more than Highschool DxD in the end.
 
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