Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG Episode 11 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG Episode 11 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 71 | 87.65% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 4 | 4.94% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 3 | 3.70% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 1 | 1.23% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 2 | 2.47% |
Voters: 81
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09-19-08, 6:09 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I loved this episode. Full on back story on Motoko :O |
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09-25-08, 6:53 PM
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I too loved it. This episode tugged a sensitive vein in me. It really depends on how one would interpret the shopkeeper's story. It was such a tragic story and using the song "I Do", though in Italian conveyed a real sense of sadness, regret and longing. It very well matched the episode's mood. "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
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12-18-08, 7:59 AM
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Great episode. I grew bored in the middle of the episode, but at that very moment I understood the girl was Motoko, and my boredom immediately disappeared. And also, did they say WWIII or WWII? If it's WWII, then it'd make Motoko OVER 9000 over a hundred years old. |
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12-21-08, 4:36 PM
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DaBigD said: Great episode. I grew bored in the middle of the episode, but at that very moment I understood the girl was Motoko, and my boredom immediately disappeared. And also, did they say WWIII or WWII? If it's WWII, then it'd make Motoko OVER 9000 over a hundred years old. In my copy, the subtitles quoted the old lady saying "last war". So I probably think that was the last non-nuclear World War or World War 4 per GitS universe timeline. Hope this helps. =) "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
#5
06-10-09, 10:40 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 191 |
ohh i just watched it and guess im gonna cry now.. very touching:( thanx for the answer 'Leibstandarte' it helped me too^^ ![]() |
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08-26-09, 5:11 AM
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oh wow that's a damn touching tragic story. So Motoko loved the boy? if i come across a dvd of this, i'll certainly buy it. It's rare for me to buy dvds unless its Good stuff. |
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08-30-09, 6:01 PM
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Beautiful episode. That was really nicely done, I'm impressed. |
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09-08-09, 12:55 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1709 |
This episode almost made me cry. Modified by Kyomu9, 10-27-09, 1:23 PM |
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10-03-09, 10:06 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 51 |
Kamiyama's attention to detail and excellent use of subtlety really showed in this episode. Fucking brilliant. |
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11-03-09, 10:00 AM
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This episode I found terrible. First thing set in the GITS universe I found such. Horribly told, soapimental and irrelevant. What, Motoko's backstory? We didn't really learn anything new about her at all. Except that she was damn cute as a kid, too. The episode focused on the boy, which might have been a smart choice if only, uh, it had been actually used as the good device it is for characterizing and telling plot. Or at least if the boy was interesting. Or at the very, very least, if the episode hadn't been thoroughly predictable. tl;dr raeg 0/10 How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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11-03-09, 10:11 AM
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Kaiserpingvin said: This episode I found terrible. First thing set in the GITS universe I found such. Horribly told, soapimental and irrelevant. What, Motoko's backstory? We didn't really learn anything new about her at all. Except that she was damn cute as a kid, too. The episode focused on the boy, which might have been a smart choice if only, uh, it had been actually used as the good device it is for characterizing and telling plot. Or at least if the boy was interesting. Or at the very, very least, if the episode hadn't been thoroughly predictable. tl;dr raeg 0/10 I'm going off very dodgy memory here because it's been years since I saw this, but I think this episode is a set-up for something important later in the series, so it's not pointless at all. Besides, it's nice to see a different side of Motoko, it fleshes out her character. Pun intended! "I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
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11-13-09, 2:26 PM
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I haven't finished 2nd Gig yet, but this is my favorite episode of the Ghost in the Shell saga (that I have seen so far). It was really touching to see Motoko's backstory, and the episode was so well executed... I'm sure this will remain my favorite Ghost in the Shell episode. :3 ![]() |
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11-27-09, 8:58 AM
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Beatnik said: I'm going off very dodgy memory here because it's been years since I saw this, but I think this episode is a set-up for something important later in the series, so it's not pointless at all. Besides, it's nice to see a different side of Motoko, it fleshes out her character. Pun intended! Yeah, it was. Normally that kind of tie-in would only make me rage even more, but it was handled all so very subtly and elegantly. Pretty impressive, really, to make such a torn contrivance work so well. On the other hand, they didn't really do anything with that extra plotline either, so... How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
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01-08-10, 2:10 PM
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I loved this episode! It was very nice to see Motoko's backstory and it was really touching too.. ![]() |
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01-13-10, 3:20 PM
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I didn't expected to see Makoto's backstory, although it was really good episode. And I must say, that in my opinion the 2nd GIG is far better than 1st :) |
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01-30-10, 10:03 AM
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Finally an episode about the major... and what an episode too... |
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03-31-10, 2:49 PM
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This episode is one of the best subtle anime episodes I have ever seen. This episode would have been nothing without the music. Motoko's back story is very different from the manga version. Here's the song: |
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04-16-10, 3:18 AM
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That seemed to come out of nowhere O_O a back-story on the Major just like that but a beautiful episode nevertheless. |
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04-16-10, 9:59 AM
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Crimsonwill said: That seemed to come out of nowhere O_O a back-story on the Major just like that but a beautiful episode nevertheless. Therein lies the problem of 2nd GIG. There are several inconsistencies in character development, which sometimes clash. Do make note that Motoko was always a wandering soul not the typical female protagonist who's headstrong 24/7. |
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08-04-10, 8:57 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1 |
yeah this episode was awesome!!! loved it ... |














