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| Really? well everyone is different, if everyone shared the same veiws and morals or even think the same way the world would be peaceful but pretty boring. |
Anime_Name said: HollowV2 said: 1. Usopp - Hated his uselessness from the start, but as the series (one piece) progressed, he became even more useless, especially around episode 200 when he started fighting with luffy. Even after the timeskip, he remains a completely worthless character, serving only for comic relief, occasionally :( You really missed the whole point of Luffy gathering people for specific roles on this crew thing. Luffy and Usopp's confrontation was on the main turning points of both characters. Are you just reading the One Piece wiki because I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone who saw the fight would ignore it's meaning and effects on the crew. stopped reading right there... do you even watched the whole show????? did you even get who danzo is?? do you realize what he has done? It's pretty safe to say the op is pretty lost when it comes to useless and replaceable characters. Nah lol, I watched the show and enjoyed it. Usopp annoyed me to no end during that arc, and I know he plays somewhat of a role on the show. The fight was pointless, I found no meaning in it, just to show how much of a closed minded person usopp was. I'm really not delving into how he contributes to the show, I'm just saying I found him a waste of time, but of course almost every character (including him) has some sort of role to play in an anime at some point. But the only thing I found him useful for was when he burned the flag @ enies lobby as sogeking. |
The fight was pointless, I found no meaning in it The fight had meaning. It was just over your head. 'm really not delving into how he contributes to the show By posting in a topic about useless characters and calling him useless you are delving into what you think he contributes to the show. You are saying he contributes nothing. I get how some people might not like him or think that he is weak but neither of those are supportive reasoning to him being useless in the show. |
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| Sakai Yuji from Shakugan no Shana was pretty worthless. He did become semi-useful in the 2nd season and of course... *spoiler* a badass in the 3rd season. *end spoiler* |
| The male lead in an anime is useless to the story of the anime...only on MAL I swear. |
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miereneronaile said: Hahahahaha. Its not even just the story hes useful to, he is directly useful to other characters, even if you totally ignore the plot. Really, that was just stupid. (talking about yuuji) Are you kidding me? He was in the way more than he was of value. You're just saying that because he is the main character in the anime and by the end, he was quite useful. I'm talking about the 1st season, dopey. If you actually think he's a useful character during the 1st season, then you are a complete dope. |
| lolz confusing usefulness with whether or not he fights. |
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miereneronaile said: Hmm? So his interactions with and impact on Shana had no use? Fighting is not the only thing of value someone can do. I understand that someone who reacts with minor insults to the suggestion that they are wrong might have trouble thinking that much but... Also, before you say I called you stupid, I did not. I said you said something stupid, which is normal. Everyone does that sometimes. Far out, he got in other characters way so he was useless. Wow, just wow. Anime_Name said: lolz confusing usefulness with whether or not he fights. You put it much more succinctly than me but yes, what he said. Many, many times what he said. That's implying the same thing! Perhaps you should've re-worded what you said originally because that makes you look like the shallow one. I never said anything about him being useless because he can't fight. I found him worthless in every aspect of the anime. I watch a lot of anime where characters don't fight and are still useful. I personally didn't find anything Yuji did was particularly useful. Even his conversations had me slapping my forehead at times. Hell, I did that MANY times even during the 3rd season. Actually, the whole point behind that Tomogara/Flame Haze War was beyond dumb. Yuji's actions themselves made little to no sense. Excuuuuuuse me for having an opinion. You said it was a dumb statement for me to make, I say it was a dumb statement by you to even interject. Wow...just...wow. |
| ok just want to add one more thing to the danzo-hokage thing xD just wait till the anime catches up to the whole story :) |
| What you said could imply that it is his ability to fight that made him useful in your eyes because across the three season his fighting ability is the only thing that changed. Through out all the seasons his conversations with people were always about comforting others, his idealism, and him being an overall nice-guy. |
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| I think a lot of people here are confusing useless with weak or annoying. As a result this has just turned into yet another thread where people just rant about characters they hate. The best way to determine if a character is truly useless is if you imagine removing the character from the story entirely and see how the story changes. If the story changes significantly than that character is not useless no matter how weak annoying and wimpy he or she was. Thus, by definition the protagonist of the show can almost never be useless, since without the protagonist you would have a completely different story. (except in some very weird case where there are many protagonists and removing one of them wouldn't change the story much - but that is a HUGE stretch). Going by this definition, there are a lot of characters which can be deemed useless, but they are all background characters - such as for instance, Rivalz from Code Geass or Light's mother from Death Note. I can list many more examples but most of you would probably not even know who those characters are - which is exactly the point - they were mostly useless to their respective stories. |
miereneronaile said: Yuuji quite clearly took some useful actions. In fact, if he had not insisted on learning to fight/sticking with Shana.. Some bad guy would have gotten his hands on the power Yuuji had, and it would have been good game for the good guys from the start. This alone is undeniably useful. Also, I really have no idea what your 'thats implying the same thing' was aimed at, so I cant respond to it. Yuuji changed Shana. Shana changing was important. Therefor Yuuji had some use. Simple. What I'm referring to is your original statement stating that it was a stupid thing to say. That can also imply that you're calling me stupid even though you backtracked and said that its not the same thing. Um, hate to break this to you, but saying that really DOES imply that you are calling me stupid. Okay, really...you're going that route? If we went by that criteria, every anime character to ever exist would serve some sort of purpose and none of them would be considered useless. So you're saying that Shana never would've changed if she never met Yuji? That my friend, is an assumption. We cannot know what happened to Shana if she never met Yuji. Look buddy, I didn't say Yuji was worthless throughout the entire show. All I said was he was worthless during the entire 1st season. That's it. That's all I said. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Simple. Now just drop it already. You're not going to convince me otherwise no matter what you imply. |
Anime_Name said: What you said could imply that it is his ability to fight that made him useful in your eyes because across the three season his fighting ability is the only thing that changed. Through out all the seasons his conversations with people were always about comforting others, his idealism, and him being an overall nice-guy. Not necessarily. Yes, Yuji did become a better fighter as the anime progressed but his idealism also changed quite a bit as the anime progressed as well. During the 1st and even a good portion of the 2nd season, he seemed to be soaking in the situation, trying to understand his place in this world. By the end of the 2nd season and the start of the 3rd, he started developing his own ideals and how they would apply to a new world if it were created. For him, the God of Creation or Snake of the Festival was that opportunity to create that world. He wanted to create that world no matter what, even if Shana wouldn't be a part of it. Sure, he didn't want to be separated from Shana, but if it meant creating a world where humans would not be killed at the hands of the Tomogara, then he'd gladly sacrifice himself for it. Do you understand where I'm going with this now? The reason he did become useful is because he started taking matters into his own hands as the 2nd season progressed. Nothing to do with "fighting ability." Get it? |
Do you understand where I'm going with this now? The reason he did become useful is because he started taking matters into his own hands as the 2nd season progressed. Nothing to do with "fighting ability." Get it? But the ability to take matters into his own hands is just a fancy way of saying that now he can fight for what he wants. If he didn't get the abilties that allowed him to fight then he wouldn't be creating anything and would still be the season 1 guy cheering Shana on and trying to influence her so that she agreed with how he views things. |
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| Thinking of two at the moment... Kon from Bleach - Really, the show could do without him. Orihime from Bleach - She only serves to play two roles -- damsel in distress, and to cry "Kurosaki-kun". |
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| Not in the order: 1. Hikaru & Kaoru(Ouran): Actually they are twins but I counted them as one because they just the same anyway. I had no fucking clue how and why they can be hosts except according to most Ouran fans Tamaki recruited them to invoke twincest fantasies for the girls(both fictional and real-life ones). 2. Pan-nya(Mashiro-Iro Symphony): The only entry that I have no grudge towards except she(yes Pan-nya is female) can have better role in the show. However her important role she ever had is in the first episode. 3. Haruhi Fujioka(Ouran): No other character that I hates more than this sprite(she's not even a human to begin with) except Kotonoha(although she obviously more useful than Haruhi were). First of all she don't deserve to be in that school in first place but yet the author and director forced the readers and viewers to love her. |
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Darklord_bg said: I can't really agree with this. It's ONE way to determine a character's utility, but I wouldn't say it's the best or the most "correct".The best way to determine if a character is truly useless is if you imagine removing the character from the story entirely and see how the story changes. If the story changes significantly than that character is not useless no matter how weak annoying and wimpy he or she was. Useless can also be defined as someone who can't do shit in the story he's in. Here's a clear example of what I mean: the purpose of this character is to BE useless (or the least useful). Thus in relation to the story s/he does indeed have a useful role to contribute to the story: s/he is to be that useless character where the hero always get to save, or that useless idiot who screw up so badly so that the hero can do a better job at it. Keep in mind there are other uses for the definition I put here, these 2 are not the only ones. With that said, I still don't agree with many of the choices here. Orihime cannot be the least useful in the definition I have. She doesn't have good fighting ability, but her recovery power is one of the most broken powers in Bleach. If anything I thought Chad was pretty useless. Often his role is that of defeating weaker foes and losing at times. It seems like his sole purpose was so that Ichigo's gang has a nice mix of archetypes, him being the quiet and strong type, which ironically was probably the weakest in the gang. And he doesn't have Orihime's obscene healing abilities. He was almost a cannon fodder, that +1 just in case everybody else's tired. Is he useful to the story? Of course, that +1 can easily be useful as long as the mangaka puts more enemies for the party to fight with. But among his group? Probably not. Keep in mind I'm also not exactly saying the "weakest" guy in the gang is the most useless. Orihime's imba healing powers probably makes her the second most useful compared to Rukia/Chad/Ishida and is a very useful ability in all of soul society. Continuing that train of thought, Yukiteru also cannot be useless, because as soon as episode 1 he was the guy that killed the first diary owner and it was something only he could do. As a summary, the definition changes depending on what is it relative to. Are you asking about the character's existence/impact to the story? Or are you asking about the comparison between character in the series whose sole (or in most cases) purpose is to be useless, but it is still an important role for the story? To be fair the OP did a pretty poor selection to start with, so I can see why this topic can be pretty heated. And it should've been about the "least useful" not useless, since that's too extreme. |
TachiiJun 15, 2012 8:20 AM
| 1. Flay Allster remove her and the story wouldn't change. 2. Shirley Fenette - Milly could be Lelouch's love interest when it came to his normal highschool life and been his support pillar. Also I believe nothing would change if she didn't exist. Like Lelouch would still be a douche towards Rolo and everyone else. He still would have struck an attack against the geass cult probably out of revenge for something else. He still would have So removing Shirley wouldn't change anything. 3. Yuuna Seiran- All he did was just whine and be a pussy and begging Cagalli to come back to him. Thats all he did he didn't contribute anything whatsoever. Those are my top 3. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
So removing Shirley wouldn't change anything. I like how you say that but before that say some stuff would have to change in order to make up for not having her in the series. |
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| 1. Sakura 2. Yamcha 3. Magickarp |
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| 1) That stupid girl from Clannad..the one who gives stars to people or whatever. After her story arc; her role was not needed and she just served to annoy the viewer. 2) Orihime from Bleach. Ughhh how much I loath her 3) Sakura from Naruto. Although I stopped watching that show after episode 3, so I don't know much. |
LiquidGold said: 1. Sakura 2. Yamcha 3. Magickarp Magicarp? Where wil gyara go? You really wanna see gyaradoses mating? Over gross. Yamacha is not useless in the beginning, if you watched it when Goku was a kid. He had a big role in that chapter. Later on, he's useless. For me, the most useless person is that dude that never takes his glasses off in gintama. |
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For me, the most useless person is that dude that never takes his glasses off in gintama. And I think you should watch more Gintama to the point where you'd be able to remember the names of the main characters. Maybe then you'd understand that being useful isn't just about who a character can beat up. |
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| Arisa Kuhouin - Guilty Crown Makoto - School Days Pan-nya - Mashiro Iro Symphony |
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Anime_Name said: For me, the most useless person is that dude that never takes his glasses off in gintama. And I think you should watch more Gintama to the point where you'd be able to remember the names of the main characters. Maybe then you'd understand that being useful isn't just about who a character can beat up. He's kind of right, though. The whole point of Madao's existence is that he's pretty useless. That said, he's probably one of the more amusing characters in the series so he is usefull in that sense. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: He's kind of right, though. The whole point of Madao's existence is that he's pretty useless. That said, he's probably one of the more amusing characters in the series so he is usefull in that sense. If the character he is talking about is Madao then being useless in the anime is his use to the audience. |
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Anime_Name said: insan3soldiern said: He's kind of right, though. The whole point of Madao's existence is that he's pretty useless. That said, he's probably one of the more amusing characters in the series so he is usefull in that sense. If the character he is talking about is Madao then being useless in the anime is his use to the audience. Yeah, I agree with that. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: Anime_Name said: insan3soldiern said: He's kind of right, though. The whole point of Madao's existence is that he's pretty useless. That said, he's probably one of the more amusing characters in the series so he is usefull in that sense. If the character he is talking about is Madao then being useless in the anime is his use to the audience. Yeah, I agree with that. I was talking about his role "to be specific, his personality", Nothing more or less. But what goes for entertainment, I give him 10/10. |
Yes, I am CD 2.0's overlord. |
| I can really only think of one at the moment. The nurse chick from Highschool of the Dead. Her only uses are the fact that her friend had that kick-ass house, humvee, and guns, and the fact that she drove them. That's it. She was ditzy, clueless, should have been bitten, and was only shown as often as she was because of her huge (and ugly looking) boobs. :I |
| Time waits for no one... DrunkenBlowfish said: Ho-oh, I'd imagine its like a Skittles flavored turkey. |
| That's a lot of uses for a useless character.... |
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miereneronaile said: You know, I am pretty sure every female in that anime exists largely for their boobs. That said, she is quite obviously not useless, lol. Less useful than the others, perhaps. Nah, in non-servicey shows, and well, a lot of shows, there are actually good female characters. Yeah, not useless, but damn near. (I would have been fine if she just wasn't a character, honestly) |
| Time waits for no one... DrunkenBlowfish said: Ho-oh, I'd imagine its like a Skittles flavored turkey. |
miereneronaile said: Tobi2x4 said: miereneronaile said: You know, I am pretty sure every female in that anime exists largely for their boobs. That said, she is quite obviously not useless, lol. Less useful than the others, perhaps. Nah, in non-servicey shows, and well, a lot of shows, there are actually good female characters. Yeah, not useless, but damn near. (I would have been fine if she just wasn't a character, honestly) That is probably why I said in 'That' anime, and not every anime. As for the woman herself, I think she served her use just fine. She was there for us to look at, lol. Oh! Sorry, I misread that... xD;; Well, I suppose to others that use is fine, but I hated lookin' at her. Her boobs were creepy, imo. |
| Time waits for no one... DrunkenBlowfish said: Ho-oh, I'd imagine its like a Skittles flavored turkey. |
Anime_Name said: That's a lot of uses for a useless character.... Canon fodder? Yes please! |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Roloko said: Anime_Name said: That's a lot of uses for a useless character.... Canon fodder? Yes please! But the person I quoted was talking about a zombie apocalypse story and the character in question admittedly provided; arms, transportation, and sanctuary. Considering the setting of the story those three things sound incredibly important. Canon fodder? Not even close. The only factor contributing to finding her useless was not liking her tits. |
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Anime_Name said: Roloko said: Anime_Name said: That's a lot of uses for a useless character.... Canon fodder? Yes please! But the person I quoted was talking about a zombie apocalypse story and the character in question admittedly provided; arms, transportation, and sanctuary. Considering the setting of the story those three things sound incredibly important. Canon fodder? Not even close. The only factor contributing to finding her useless was not liking her tits. lol I read that as "There" at first not "Thats" also I didn't know I just scrolled down on your comment and quoted. xD My mistake. xP |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Oppos1te said: I can agree since this is anime discussion :P but in the manga he's a much better character.1. Claymore - Raki Chiaotzu - DBZ (in Dragon Ball he meant more, but in DBZ he was just there to die..) |
| If i was Clare, I kick Raki's ass everyday. |
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Oppos1te said: If i was Clare, I kick Raki's ass everyday. Funny as Raki's use to Clare is the same as Clare's use to Teresa. Sure there was some kicking involved but then Teresa finally smartened up to see it. |
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