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I have been wondering how does american animation do in japan and i dont mean shows like spongebob or power puff girls i mean action adventure shows like young justice, Batman TAS, Johnny Quest you know shows like that do Japanese fans take to them
 
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Big American cable stations like Cartoon Network, Disney, and Nick will usually have their American stuff broadcast in foreign countries. They try to force those shows onto people in Japan and some people end up watching or at least have their T.Vs on but those shows don't do well when compared to domestic Japanese shows.

 
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Well, as Anime_Name said, those companies tend to shoehorn in and force their shows in other countries because of how rich they are. It's not like anime here where companies have to license individual shows, Nickelodeon/CN/Disney buy air time in other countries and handle all that themselves in an attempt at globalization, which usually fails, but I guess they still make enough money back to keep doing it (except Nickelodeon, which got kicked out of Japan when Nick Japan shut down)

Anyway, the only western show Japan really knows of is Thomas the Tank Engine, but it's British not American so I guess it doesn't count. Also it's not really a cartoon, it's live-action stop motion.

juken16 said:
I have been wondering how does american animation do in japan and i dont mean shows like spongebob or power puff girls i mean action adventure shows like young justice, Batman TAS, Johnny Quest you know shows like that do Japanese fans take to them


Oh. Well, no, they don't like those shows. The only western animation that even blips on the radar is really one or two random preschool shows like Thomas. Mainly since they air on NHK, which is the Japanese equivalent of PBS. And to be honest, that's mostly because those shows help kids learn English (and some older teens as well.. it has very basic dialog which makes it a good learning tool to help them learn English and basic sentence structure)

But as far a like, the latest superhero or American action cartoon, not really. Not when they have shows like One Piece, Naruto, and etcetera at their fingertips. There's not much reason to watch anything else from other countries. Anime is a lot more popular in the US than US shows are there, especially with the online community. I believe since anime offers things western animation does not, while western animation doesn't really offer anything you can't find in anime.
 
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Love Thomas and Friends..

Especially the Brown hut-like train... number 7 i think.


http://www.thomasandfriends.com/usa/Thomas.mvc/EngineDepot


amazing :)
 
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May 7, 2012 10:12 AM

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Japan does not need western super hero animation

cuase we have longer tradition of live action super Hero Shows

Sentai been running since 75
Ultra since 50's
Kamen Rider since 72
Metal Hero 82-98
Non franchise Toku to or 3 run a year
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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Armiga21 said:
Well, as Anime_Name said, those companies tend to shoehorn in and force their shows in other countries because of how rich they are. It's not like anime here where companies have to license individual shows, Nickelodeon/CN/Disney buy air time in other countries and handle all that themselves in an attempt at globalization, which usually fails, but I guess they still make enough money back to keep doing it (except Nickelodeon, which got kicked out of Japan when Nick Japan shut down)

Anyway, the only western show Japan really knows of is Thomas the Tank Engine, but it's British not American so I guess it doesn't count. Also it's not really a cartoon, it's live-action stop motion.

juken16 said:
I have been wondering how does american animation do in japan and i dont mean shows like spongebob or power puff girls i mean action adventure shows like young justice, Batman TAS, Johnny Quest you know shows like that do Japanese fans take to them


Oh. Well, no, they don't like those shows. The only western animation that even blips on the radar is really one or two random preschool shows like Thomas. Mainly since they air on NHK, which is the Japanese equivalent of PBS. And to be honest, that's mostly because those shows help kids learn English (and some older teens as well.. it has very basic dialog which makes it a good learning tool to help them learn English and basic sentence structure)

But as far a like, the latest superhero or American action cartoon, not really. Not when they have shows like One Piece, Naruto, and etcetera at their fingertips. There's not much reason to watch anything else from other countries. Anime is a lot more popular in the US than US shows are there, especially with the online community. I believe since anime offers things western animation does not, while western animation doesn't really offer anything you can't find in anime.



i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there
 
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juken16 said:
Armiga21 said:
Well, as Anime_Name said, those companies tend to shoehorn in and force their shows in other countries because of how rich they are. It's not like anime here where companies have to license individual shows, Nickelodeon/CN/Disney buy air time in other countries and handle all that themselves in an attempt at globalization, which usually fails, but I guess they still make enough money back to keep doing it (except Nickelodeon, which got kicked out of Japan when Nick Japan shut down)

Anyway, the only western show Japan really knows of is Thomas the Tank Engine, but it's British not American so I guess it doesn't count. Also it's not really a cartoon, it's live-action stop motion.

juken16 said:
I have been wondering how does american animation do in japan and i dont mean shows like spongebob or power puff girls i mean action adventure shows like young justice, Batman TAS, Johnny Quest you know shows like that do Japanese fans take to them


Oh. Well, no, they don't like those shows. The only western animation that even blips on the radar is really one or two random preschool shows like Thomas. Mainly since they air on NHK, which is the Japanese equivalent of PBS. And to be honest, that's mostly because those shows help kids learn English (and some older teens as well.. it has very basic dialog which makes it a good learning tool to help them learn English and basic sentence structure)

But as far a like, the latest superhero or American action cartoon, not really. Not when they have shows like One Piece, Naruto, and etcetera at their fingertips. There's not much reason to watch anything else from other countries. Anime is a lot more popular in the US than US shows are there, especially with the online community. I believe since anime offers things western animation does not, while western animation doesn't really offer anything you can't find in anime.



i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there


Which is why people should be careful of general statements. It just depends on the individual/group whether or not they like it.
 
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juken16 said:
i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there


Did it? All my sources don't list Avenger's turnout in Japan, so either it hasn't premiered there yet or hasn't been collected yet.

Though you're talking about a live-action movie, not a television cartoon. The movie market is completely different than the television one. Movies aren't as big in Japan as they are in America (or really anywhere outside America, since Hollywood has a monopoly on movies) Most movies in Japan don't make more than 10 million dollars USD at the box office.

Though if you want a list of how well recent superhero movies performed in Japan. In 2011 Thor made almost 6 million, Captain America made about 3 million and Green Lantern only made half a million.

In fact, the top movie of 2012 so far in Japan is the annual Doraemon movie, which made 42 Million USD. That's be considered a flop by Hollywood standards, but pretty dang good for Japan's standards.
 
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Powerpuff girls must have aired there one time or another because they made their own anime adaptation Powerpuff Girls Z

I wonder if in japan there are american animation fans that boast how superior it is and how shitty japanese animation is like people here do against western and for japanese LOL
 
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Armiga21 said:
juken16 said:
i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there


Did it? All my sources don't list Avenger's turnout in Japan, so either it hasn't premiered there yet or hasn't been collected yet.

Though you're talking about a live-action movie, not a television cartoon. The movie market is completely different than the television one. Movies aren't as big in Japan as they are in America (or really anywhere outside America, since Hollywood has a monopoly on movies) Most movies in Japan don't make more than 10 million dollars USD at the box office.

Though if you want a list of how well recent superhero movies performed in Japan. In 2011 Thor made almost 6 million, Captain America made about 3 million and Green Lantern only made half a million.

In fact, the top movie of 2012 so far in Japan is the annual Doraemon movie, which made 42 Million USD. That's be considered a flop by Hollywood standards, but pretty dang good for Japan's standards.


so let me get this, i have read that recent super sentai movies make it big but by american standards they would be flops, but anime movies make more then live action is that right
 
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traed said:
Powerpuff girls must have aired there one time or another because they made their own anime adaptation Powerpuff Girls Z

I wonder if in japan there are american animation fans that boast how superior it is and how shitty japanese animation is like people here do against western and for japanese LOL


i wonder that too
 
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I thought they loved HollyWood movies
 
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Enjolras1830 said:
Japan does not need western super hero animation

cuase we have longer tradition of live action super Hero Shows

Sentai been running since 75
Ultra since 50's
Kamen Rider since 72
Metal Hero 82-98
Non franchise Toku to or 3 run a year


Since you live in japan i want to ask how did marvel anime do in Japan because it was all over the place here in America mostly alot of mediocre or bad reviews
 
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I thought they loved HollyWood movies

I'm pretty sure Pixar stuff (3D animation) does pretty well overseas.
 
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juken16 said:
so let me get this, i have read that recent super sentai movies make it big but by american standards they would be flops, but anime movies make more then live action is that right


It depends. It's just that 40 million is small compared to American theaters where the bigger hits tend to be over 200 million.

Since you live in japan i want to ask how did marvel anime do in Japan because it was all over the place here in America mostly alot of mediocre or bad reviews


They were very poorly received. I don't think they even had a video release in Japan, but I didn't look very much into it. If it did, it was pretty small.
 
 
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juken16 said:
i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there

The Avengers isn't even in theaters in Japan yet (I really screamed when I realized this) :/ Its Japanese release date is August 17...
 
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MerronSoda said:
juken16 said:
i thought that but then why do japanese like american superhero films live action i mean didnt the avengers do really well over there

The Avengers isn't even in theaters in Japan yet (I really screamed when I realized this) :/ Its Japanese release date is August 17...



well i meant to say movies like thor, captain american, and the dark knight
 
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Fui said:
CaptLuffy said:
I thought they loved HollyWood movies

I'm pretty sure Pixar stuff (3D animation) does pretty well overseas.


Japanese viewers shell out big $$$ for Pixar and for other American animated films. It's not fair to compare box office receipts on a dollar-to-dollar basis as the population of Japan is less than 1/2 of the USA, but consider this:

2011 Toy Story 3 - Japanese box office ~ $108million - $0.85 per person (not too far from US gross of $1.33 per person)
2011 Arrietty - Japanese box office ~ $92.5million - $0.73 per person

More box office receipts for Toy Story 3 than Arrietty IN JAPAN??? Well, maybe Anime makes huge $$$ in the USA because we are film and anime fanatics? No.

Top box office for Japanese animated film in USA:
1. Pokemon: The First Movie - USA box office - $85,744,662 - $0.28 per person
It drops off fast after that.

So, American animation can do very well in Japan, better in fact than Japanese animation has done in the USA, but as others have pointed out it depends on the particular product.
 
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So, American animation can do very well in Japan, better in fact than Japanese animation has done in the USA.


What a grossly misleading statement.
 
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verdstein said:


So, American animation can do very well in Japan, better in fact than Japanese animation has done in the USA, but as others have pointed out it depends on the particular product.


All you did was cherry-pick some Disney/Pixar films that grossed really well and ignored so many failures like Cars, Ice Age:Meltdown, Shrek the Third, Corpse Bride,Rango...I could go on but the point is to not just look at the top 1% when trying to making a generalization about an entire market.

I agree that some Disney/Pixar movies can be huge blockbusters around the globe but that mostly has to do with how well Disney markets it's products and doesn't really say anything about the overall performance of American animated movies in Japan.

 
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juken16 said:
so let me get this, i have read that recent super sentai movies make it big but by american standards they would be flops, but anime movies make more then live action is that right


It depends. It's just that 40 million is small compared to American theaters where the bigger hits tend to be over 200 million.

Since you live in japan i want to ask how did marvel anime do in Japan because it was all over the place here in America mostly alot of mediocre or bad reviews


They were very poorly received. I don't think they even had a video release in Japan, but I didn't look very much into it. If it did, it was pretty small.


you beat me to it tehy are yet to Get a proper DVD Relese
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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also take in to acccout the Japanese Film/Music isdusrey are the 2nd Biggest in the world that is displayed in the fact that for the past 3 years worldwide[Grossing tickest] has been AKB 48 2.2 Billion YeN in a YEAR in Japan alone
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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I could go on but the point is to not just look at the top 1% when trying to making a generalization about an entire market.


It's more like a small % of a market that is also a small % of the market; movies pale in comparison to manga and television in Japan. The problem is movies are the only chance American animation has to be noticed at all by Japan, and American cartoon fans know this which is why they cling to movie sales so much and use those every chance they get and completely ignore television and manga sales despite being a bigger market (It says a lot when sales from 1 volume of a manga can out do most movies's box office performances in Japan) It's like saying French animation dominates Americans airwaves because Totally Spies got the best ratings at 12:30 PM on Saturdays when it aired. It's too specific and narrow of a view to be a worthwhile measurement.
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Armiga21 said:
Anime_Name said:
I could go on but the point is to not just look at the top 1% when trying to making a generalization about an entire market.


It's more like a small % of a market that is also a small % of the market; movies pale in comparison to manga and television in Japan. The problem is movies are the only chance American animation has to be noticed at all by Japan, and American cartoon fans know this which is why they cling to movie sales so much and use those every chance they get and completely ignore television and manga sales despite being a bigger market (It says a lot when sales from 1 volume of a manga can out do most movies's box office performances in Japan) It's like saying French animation dominates Americans airwaves because Totally Spies got the best ratings at 12:30 PM on Saturdays when it aired. It's too specific and narrow of a view to be a worthwhile measurement.

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my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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verdstein said:
Fui said:
CaptLuffy said:
I thought they loved HollyWood movies

I'm pretty sure Pixar stuff (3D animation) does pretty well overseas.


Japanese viewers shell out big $$$ for Pixar and for other American animated films. It's not fair to compare box office receipts on a dollar-to-dollar basis as the population of Japan is less than 1/2 of the USA, but consider this:

2011 Toy Story 3 - Japanese box office ~ $108million - $0.85 per person (not too far from US gross of $1.33 per person)
2011 Arrietty - Japanese box office ~ $92.5million - $0.73 per person

More box office receipts for Toy Story 3 than Arrietty IN JAPAN??? Well, maybe Anime makes huge $$$ in the USA because we are film and anime fanatics? No.

Top box office for Japanese animated film in USA:
1. Pokemon: The First Movie - USA box office - $85,744,662 - $0.28 per person
It drops off fast after that.

So, American animation can do very well in Japan, better in fact than Japanese animation has done in the USA, but as others have pointed out it depends on the particular product.



i really did not want too really go in to stuff like disney and pixar because in away they helped shade manga look at astro boy i want to know about mostly television animation from america thats more action adventure comapnies like disney and pixar i get have crossover appeal
 
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Armiga21 said:
Anime_Name said:
I could go on but the point is to not just look at the top 1% when trying to making a generalization about an entire market.


It's more like a small % of a market that is also a small % of the market; movies pale in comparison to manga and television in Japan. The problem is movies are the only chance American animation has to be noticed at all by Japan, and American cartoon fans know this which is why they cling to movie sales so much and use those every chance they get and completely ignore television and manga sales despite being a bigger market (It says a lot when sales from 1 volume of a manga can out do most movies's box office performances in Japan) It's like saying French animation dominates Americans airwaves because Totally Spies got the best ratings at 12:30 PM on Saturdays when it aired. It's too specific and narrow of a view to be a worthwhile measurement.


so what your saying is unlike here in America where movie are always a big to do be it live action or animated in Japan they are small thing. So Avengers EMH might not be seen but the Avengers movie will be out

I do not get that considering the amount of movies japanese studios produce with in a year in its prime dragonball made 2 movies a year

i also wanted to add this the main reason for why i started this thread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JU4vUcRmw&list=PLF0129C205C0D2836&index=170&feature=plpp_video
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juken16 said:
Armiga21 said:
Anime_Name said:
I could go on but the point is to not just look at the top 1% when trying to making a generalization about an entire market.


It's more like a small % of a market that is also a small % of the market; movies pale in comparison to manga and television in Japan. The problem is movies are the only chance American animation has to be noticed at all by Japan, and American cartoon fans know this which is why they cling to movie sales so much and use those every chance they get and completely ignore television and manga sales despite being a bigger market (It says a lot when sales from 1 volume of a manga can out do most movies's box office performances in Japan) It's like saying French animation dominates Americans airwaves because Totally Spies got the best ratings at 12:30 PM on Saturdays when it aired. It's too specific and narrow of a view to be a worthwhile measurement.


so what your saying is unlike here in America where movie are always a big to do be it live action or animated in Japan they are small thing. So Avengers EMH might not be seen but the Avengers movie will be out

I do not get that considering the amount of movies japanese studios produce with in a year in its prime dragonball made 2 movies a year

i also wanted to add this the main reason for why i started this thread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JU4vUcRmw&list=PLF0129C205C0D2836&index=170&feature=plpp_video


the main reason spiderman is Famous here is not via comics its Via a 70's Toku show
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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hey ^^ i'm kinda new here, is this anything like a chatroom? and is someone here from belgium, limburg?
 
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KeiriChann said:
hey ^^ i'm kinda new here, is this anything like a chatroom? and is someone here from belgium, limburg?

no this is a forum not a chatroom sorry
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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juken16 said:
so what your saying is unlike here in America where movie are always a big to do be it live action or animated in Japan they are small thing. So Avengers EMH might not be seen but the Avengers movie will be out

I do not get that considering the amount of movies japanese studios produce with in a year in its prime dragonball made 2 movies a year

i also wanted to add this the main reason for why i started this thread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JU4vUcRmw&list=PLF0129C205C0D2836&index=170&feature=plpp_video


Armiga21 might have been referring specifically to animated films, which are about 10-20% of the total anime market.
http://www.jetro.org/trends/market_info_anime.pdf
The total box office receipts in Japan (live action + anime) are substantial, and are about the same as the total anime market
http://www.eiren.org/statistics_e/index.html
American action adventure films can do very well in Japan. E.g. Spider Man 3 made 7.25 billion yen @ box office in Japan in 2007 (about $90million), which maybe explains the opening scene of the video you linked. Also, as Enjolras1830 pointed out, Spiderman has some history in Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_%28Toei_TV_series%29

It's a good point that if animated movies were irrelevant in Japan, Japanese animation studios would not be making them. Animated films are making ~30 billion yen per year in Japan, so nothing to sneeze at. The animated TV market is larger, but there is a glut of competition.
 
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verdstein said:
juken16 said:
so what your saying is unlike here in America where movie are always a big to do be it live action or animated in Japan they are small thing. So Avengers EMH might not be seen but the Avengers movie will be out

I do not get that considering the amount of movies japanese studios produce with in a year in its prime dragonball made 2 movies a year

i also wanted to add this the main reason for why i started this thread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JU4vUcRmw&list=PLF0129C205C0D2836&index=170&feature=plpp_video


Armiga21 might have been referring specifically to animated films, which are about 10-20% of the total anime market.
http://www.jetro.org/trends/market_info_anime.pdf
The total box office receipts in Japan (live action + anime) are substantial, and are about the same as the total anime market
http://www.eiren.org/statistics_e/index.html
American action adventure films can do very well in Japan. E.g. Spider Man 3 made 7.25 billion yen @ box office in Japan in 2007 (about $90million), which maybe explains the opening scene of the video you linked. Also, as Enjolras1830 pointed out, Spiderman has some history in Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_%28Toei_TV_series%29

It's a good point that if animated movies were irrelevant in Japan, Japanese animation studios would not be making them. Animated films are making ~30 billion yen per year in Japan, so nothing to sneeze at. The animated TV market is larger, but there is a glut of competition.



i hope you could brakw down were the impoted films came
from those impoted movies are not Just Us Movies
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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juken16 said:
so what your saying is unlike here in America where movie are always a big to do be it live action or animated in Japan they are small thing. So Avengers EMH might not be seen but the Avengers movie will be out


I guess.

i also wanted to add this the main reason for why i started this thread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JU4vUcRmw&list=PLF0129C205C0D2836&index=170&feature=plpp_video


The title of the video is Amecomi Specialty Store and they talk about a specialty store that specializes in Amecomi (Japanese word for American comics, similar to how we use manga to say Japanese comics) Which are very rare in Japan. And most awareness of Amecomic characters comes from the live-action Hollywood movies (which isn't all that different from America to be honest. When you say Iron Man, most people are going to think Roberty Downy Jr, and if you say Wolverine, they'll think Hugh Jackman)

Though as verdstein's links point out, Non-Japaneses films make up roughly 50% of the movie market in Japan, which is quite a lot. So yes, movies are one place America is noticeable in Japan because on their own they don't make anywhere near as many as America does. Movies have always been monopolized by Hollywood. It's just this sometimes applies to animated films as well so sometimes they gets big turnouts like Toy Story 3. Though not always.. Cars 2 made only a fraction of what Toy Story 3 made in Japan.


I do not get that considering the amount of movies japanese studios produce with in a year in its prime dragonball made 2 movies a year


Making movies is one thing, but having them be huge blockbusters is another. The budgets for movies in Japan are only a fraction of what they are in America, so they can only make 10 Million USD and still turn a profit, where as most movies in the US would consider it a bomb.
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May 8, 2012 1:02 PM

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Enjolras1830 said:

i hope you could brakw down were the impoted films came
from those impoted movies are not Just Us Movies


Good point. It appears that about 90% of top-grossing imported films in Japan are from the US.
http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/yearly/
http://www.eiren.org/boxoffice_e/

The reason I've been citing film stats is because they are easy to find and are generally well organized. In terms of DVD sales, it seems the ratios are comparable. E.g. the fraction of the foreign market in Japanese animated DVDs is ~10%
http://www.jva-net.or.jp/en/genre_2001-2011_en.pdf
For film, foreign animations box office receipts are also around 10% of the total for animations, though higher in years with foreign blockbusters like Toy Story 3.
 
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Enjolras1830 said:

i hope you could brakw down were the impoted films came
from those impoted movies are not Just Us Movies


Good point. It appears that about 90% of top-grossing imported films in Japan are from the US.
http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/yearly/
http://www.eiren.org/boxoffice_e/

The reason I've been citing film stats is because they are easy to find and are generally well organized. In terms of DVD sales, it seems the ratios are comparable. E.g. the fraction of the foreign market in Japanese animated DVDs is ~10%
http://www.jva-net.or.jp/en/genre_2001-2011_en.pdf
For film, foreign animations box office receipts are also around 10% of the total for animations, though higher in years with foreign blockbusters like Toy Story 3.


the reason Dvd sales are sligly more important in Japan is cuase the V cinema Market is bigger in Japan than its sort of idea in any Western nation alot of bigger Japanese Directors are V Cinema over Theater even in Japan
Mostly Sparking only Toei, Genon [ who own universal Japan] Toho and some Japanese Branch Mutilnation studio stuff and Impoted stuff gets put in Theaters
thats the Biig three in Japan studios wise
all no Non Major Movies get Proper Nation wide Theater relese
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V cinema = Home Media Only
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1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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this is the first time i asked these questions and got really good answers so thank you everyone

i know from what i have found american comics are not big in japan and nor its seem american comic series well except batman from the 60's but i think thats because it was kind of toku

but i have one more question to ask how do american video games based on comics fair i mean exactly how big is capcom vs marvel series
 
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juken16 said:
this is the first time i asked these questions and got really good answers so thank you everyone

i know from what i have found american comics are not big in japan and nor its seem american comic series well except batman from the 60's but i think thats because it was kind of toku

but i have one more question to ask how do american video games based on comics fair i mean exactly how big is capcom vs marvel series


Us made games outside of Wizardry Ultima, very few USA made games make any Impact in Japan

MvC 2 is still a big money maker in Japan Arcade Wise so the Home version sell Ok
my 11 main things i rate on

1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
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Enjolras1830 said:
juken16 said:
this is the first time i asked these questions and got really good answers so thank you everyone

i know from what i have found american comics are not big in japan and nor its seem american comic series well except batman from the 60's but i think thats because it was kind of toku

but i have one more question to ask how do american video games based on comics fair i mean exactly how big is capcom vs marvel series


Us made games outside of Wizardry Ultima, very few USA made games make any Impact in Japan

MvC 2 is still a big money maker in Japan Arcade Wise so the Home version sell Ok



so MvC 3 is not big
 
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