| it's depend on taste though, but still someone who hating this series because of merely rank on top 3 are pathetic. probably if gintama for example on 100s they wont give a damn thing about this series, LOL. Open your eyes guys, MAL Rating is just an illusion LOL GINTAMA is AWESOME |
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| GINTAMA IS AWESOME. But for you to start laughing really really hard. I suggest you to start at episode 31. |
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Seikunai said: Well no, because then you wouldn't know who the characters are.GINTAMA IS AWESOME. But for you to start laughing really really hard. I suggest you to start at episode 31. Always start at episode 1. |
| Well I'm not a hater but I understand people who don't like this show. The humour is sometimes exaggerated, also too many refferences to Japanese culture makes it difficult to understand. I found some episodes extremely enjoyable and some episodes extremely boring. |
DizzeeJul 21, 2013 7:10 AM
| I don't hate gintama I just don't think it's consistently funny. The times it is funny are hilarious though and you won't find an anime that does it better. I have shallow feelings for Ginatama love it when its funny, but lose interest when its not.Comedy is extremely subjective. The hate gintama gets is understandable cause comedy doesn't translate well between people and cultures. Its hardly the end of the world if someone doesn't like it after all it is one of the top shows on mal and the opinion is universal that it's "good". So don't get up set if others don't like it they just have a differant taste/opinion than you. If I say or think everyone should like "Snickers" and some don't whom am I to call them ignorant? Our expectations of what other should like/enjoy are based on our own enjoyments. It is hardly fair to have this expectation. |
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| As someone who doesn't watch anime any more, Gintama is about the only anime I will bother watching these days, simply because it is so funny and does not take itself seriously. The great thing about Gintama too is that it references not only Japanese culture in its jokes, but pop culture from the West as well. So I don't understand why it's not more popular outside Japan. |
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Gokuzeross said: Chibiginger said: The hate gintama gets is understandable cause comedy doesn't translate well between people and cultures. Its hardly the end of the world if someone doesn't like it after all it is one of the top shows on mal and the opinion is universal that it's "good". So don't get up set if others don't like it they just have a differant taste/opinion than you. If I say or think everyone should like "Snickers" and some don't whom am I to call them ignorant? Our expectations of what other should like/enjoy are based on our own enjoyments. It is hardly fair to have this expectation. Ah but dislike and hatred are two very different things. If you dislike it then it's just not your cup of tea, you say why you don't like it and can even have constructive conversations, then leave it at that. Hatred is just completely illogical, and is usually expressed by bashing which is highly disrespectful and they do it relentlessly. but if you say that you don't like something you have to have at least a good idea of what it is, and unless the 5 episodes seen have at the very least one serious and one entirely humoristic episodes as well as one like the 231th which's funny and heartwarming, giving argument as to why 'Gintama sucks' is not receivable. Then again people are not known for being reasonable. I mean I don't like Naruto and I can give reasons why, yet I'm not bashing it (same for Twilight, though I'm close to hating it, I usually give arguments as to why I think it's stupid.) Still the hate is understandable some will find the show too random or will simply lack the general knowledge of Japanese culture and anime to enjoy it(who are "we" to say they need to agree with us and their "opinion" is not valid(by the definition of opinion we can't). The word "hate" is thrown around a lot... It's often the word someone throws at you when you don't like something they like as well "If you don't like this your a hater". That is hardly reasonable. Hate is to feel intense or passionate dislike for something (someone). While dislike is to feel a distaste for or hostility toward something(someone). Hate is very comparable to disliking something it is just a slightly stronger version of the word. The main haters Gintama has are by people that don't think it deserves the popularity it has(probably in comparison to their favorite show).Other than that Gintama has a very powerful defense force(fan base). I liked parts of Gintama and others I did not. I'm not trying to bring down someones favorite show just give a reason for the "hate" or "dislike" as that is what the TC was asking of us with the creation of this topic. I honestly don't care if you don't like naruto there are alot of people that don't like it on mal and many will bring up valid criticisms. Even though naruto and gintama are both shonens I find it hard to draw comparisons between a comedy and a battle shonen... They just appeal to different groups. |
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Chibiginger said: Gokuzeross said: Chibiginger said: The hate gintama gets is understandable cause comedy doesn't translate well between people and cultures. Its hardly the end of the world if someone doesn't like it after all it is one of the top shows on mal and the opinion is universal that it's "good". So don't get up set if others don't like it they just have a differant taste/opinion than you. If I say or think everyone should like "Snickers" and some don't whom am I to call them ignorant? Our expectations of what other should like/enjoy are based on our own enjoyments. It is hardly fair to have this expectation. Ah but dislike and hatred are two very different things. If you dislike it then it's just not your cup of tea, you say why you don't like it and can even have constructive conversations, then leave it at that. Hatred is just completely illogical, and is usually expressed by bashing which is highly disrespectful and they do it relentlessly. but if you say that you don't like something you have to have at least a good idea of what it is, and unless the 5 episodes seen have at the very least one serious and one entirely humoristic episodes as well as one like the 231th which's funny and heartwarming, giving argument as to why 'Gintama sucks' is not receivable. Then again people are not known for being reasonable. I mean I don't like Naruto and I can give reasons why, yet I'm not bashing it (same for Twilight, though I'm close to hating it, I usually give arguments as to why I think it's stupid.) Still the hate is understandable some will find the show too random or will simply lack the general knowledge of Japanese culture and anime to enjoy it(who are "we" to say they need to agree with us and their "opinion" is not valid(by the definition of opinion we can't). The word "hate" is thrown around a lot... It's often the word someone throws at you when you don't like something they like as well "If you don't like this your a hater". That is hardly reasonable. Hate is to feel intense or passionate dislike for something (someone). While dislike is to feel a distaste for or hostility toward something(someone). Hate is very comparable to disliking something it is just a slightly stronger version of the word. The main haters Gintama has are by people that don't think it deserves the popularity it has(probably in comparison to their favorite show).Other than that Gintama has a very powerful defense force(fan base). I liked parts of Gintama and others I did not. I'm not trying to bring down someones favorite show just give a reason for the "hate" or "dislike" as that is what the TC was asking of us with the creation of this topic. I honestly don't care if you don't like naruto there are alot of people that don't like it on mal and many will bring up valid criticisms. Even though naruto and gintama are both shonens I find it hard to draw comparisons between a comedy and a battle shonen... They just appeal to different groups. I wouldnt say its understandable cause a majority of the time the people that really hate it went in with ridiculously high expectations and ignored the heeding form just about every gintama fan about the first 20 episodes pretty much straight up sucking save for a couple episodes. gintama was definetly a show that constantly improved and expanded, like first 50 episode were really inconsistent but had some high points, the next 50 episodes while the first half was similar to the first 50, episode 75-100 covered both consistantly funny episodes one after another and throwing in a mini arc thats so touching as well as badass its known to make most of the people watching it cry(okita sister arc), youd never see that if youd base it only off the first 20 episodes or as many do only the first 5, oh and from episode 100 and on its just skyrockets in quality from how much variety it has and how it really realizes the world allows it to do whatever it wants |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Chibiginger said: Gokuzeross said: Chibiginger said: The hate gintama gets is understandable cause comedy doesn't translate well between people and cultures. Its hardly the end of the world if someone doesn't like it after all it is one of the top shows on mal and the opinion is universal that it's "good". So don't get up set if others don't like it they just have a differant taste/opinion than you. If I say or think everyone should like "Snickers" and some don't whom am I to call them ignorant? Our expectations of what other should like/enjoy are based on our own enjoyments. It is hardly fair to have this expectation. Ah but dislike and hatred are two very different things. If you dislike it then it's just not your cup of tea, you say why you don't like it and can even have constructive conversations, then leave it at that. Hatred is just completely illogical, and is usually expressed by bashing which is highly disrespectful and they do it relentlessly. but if you say that you don't like something you have to have at least a good idea of what it is, and unless the 5 episodes seen have at the very least one serious and one entirely humoristic episodes as well as one like the 231th which's funny and heartwarming, giving argument as to why 'Gintama sucks' is not receivable. Then again people are not known for being reasonable. I mean I don't like Naruto and I can give reasons why, yet I'm not bashing it (same for Twilight, though I'm close to hating it, I usually give arguments as to why I think it's stupid.) Still the hate is understandable some will find the show too random or will simply lack the general knowledge of Japanese culture and anime to enjoy it(who are "we" to say they need to agree with us and their "opinion" is not valid(by the definition of opinion we can't). The word "hate" is thrown around a lot... It's often the word someone throws at you when you don't like something they like as well "If you don't like this your a hater". That is hardly reasonable. Hate is to feel intense or passionate dislike for something (someone). While dislike is to feel a distaste for or hostility toward something(someone). Hate is very comparable to disliking something it is just a slightly stronger version of the word. The main haters Gintama has are by people that don't think it deserves the popularity it has(probably in comparison to their favorite show).Other than that Gintama has a very powerful defense force(fan base). I liked parts of Gintama and others I did not. I'm not trying to bring down someones favorite show just give a reason for the "hate" or "dislike" as that is what the TC was asking of us with the creation of this topic. I honestly don't care if you don't like naruto there are alot of people that don't like it on mal and many will bring up valid criticisms. Even though naruto and gintama are both shonens I find it hard to draw comparisons between a comedy and a battle shonen... They just appeal to different groups. I wouldnt say its understandable cause a majority of the time the people that really hate it went in with ridiculously high expectations and ignored the heeding form just about every gintama fan about the first 20 episodes pretty much straight up sucking save for a couple episodes. gintama was definetly a show that constantly improved and expanded, like first 50 episode were really inconsistent but had some high points, the next 50 episodes while the first half was similar to the first 50, episode 75-100 covered both consistantly funny episodes one after another and throwing in a mini arc thats so touching as well as badass its known to make most of the people watching it cry(okita sister arc), youd never see that if youd base it only off the first 20 episodes or as many do only the first 5, oh and from episode 100 and on its just skyrockets in quality from how much variety it has and how it really realizes the world allows it to do whatever it wants I can understand that. Gintama takes a while to start up so many people give up on it and presume to throw criticism at it without experiencing the best of it . Problem still being that as entertainment its goal is to lock people in and keep them interested, but its extremely slow start and much needed time investment for it to "get good" is too much for the average person. I think that it is a very valid and understandable reason to hate/dislike a series. If i have to watch 20+ no 50+ wait 100+ to hit those amazing episodes then the show no matter how "amazing" those good moments are later. Gintama doesn't hook people early and being such a long show it needs it very badly. Even late into the series I find somethings absolutely hilarious or I find that the show is trying too hard and is not funny. That being said comedy is too hard to judge... One thing that is funny to one person may not be to another. As a whole I have mixed feelings about gintama. |
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| Hi( no, seriously. I was in that deleted thread that was discussing about Gintama''s downvoter). |
| There is like 2 weeks delay in my recent reading list I randomly bought discount/second hand manga with cute/mysterious cover.  Use Personal Blacklist extension in Chrome if you just want to Google for a series synopsis, without google slapping MAL score in it. 3/1 |
| It's the FF13 of anime in that it takes way too long to get good. Being great after episode 50 doesn't justify the 20 hours of mediocrity that preceded it. |
| Gintama isn't for everyone i guess. Its a gag anime that jokes about japanese culture/celebrity's and its very own audience. I marathoned the first 20 episodes and loved it. |
| Why did you dislike Gintama? You think, because it has a many poop scene that make you gross and get sick? I like Gintama. Because it's so funny. I was laughing so much hard. |
Kazeshini said: it's a sitcom, it's not supposed to be taken seriously. selectively its meant to be taken seriously, there are arcs that deal with themes of genocide, torture, slavery, forced prostitution, kidnapping, murder, and many more. While there are jokes scattered around the stories that have those themes the actual themes are taken very seriously. Yah gintama is a comedy series but here and there you will get to moments such as this(be warned spoilers for episode 210) http://vimeo.com/53539633 |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I simply love Gintama. Some episodes made me laugh so much that I cry, some episodes are really touching, hell, some episodes are both. And when there is a fight, it's just awesome. But, when I see someone saying that dislike Gintama after seeing some random episodes, and yeah I see this a lot too, I simply laugh at how ignorant they are, I don't want to waste my time on them. When I say that I'm gonna watch an anime, I don't care how much I hate each episode, I watch the whole anime before giving an opinion. That's what people should do, but if they don't, I couldn't care less for what they have to say... |
| Every time I try to get into Gintama I just can't do it. I've seen a lot of videos of it on YouTube and the fight scenes are spectacular. But as for the comedy... well me being as judgmental and ignorant as I possibly can, I think it is kind of average. I'm at the point of just watching all the fight scenes and that will be the end of it. I can't force myself through 265 episodes simply because its fans have promised that it will get better. |
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| I have encountered a lot of judgmental anime otaku wannabes on the internet. It really pisses me off. Especially when it comes to One Piece. Well, there are lots of One Piece bashers... They say, it's too childish. The drawing's so ugly. The characters are weird. It's too boring etc. And I'm like. WTH are you saying. Would you please stop judging, you haven't even watched it yet -_- They just bash anime without knowing the truth behind its awesomeness. And when I read your post, it also pissed me off. WHY BASH GIN-SAN?! Our Gin-san!!! I bet he did not even know how awesome are Gin-san is -_- I really pity those judgmental pain in the ass people. I'll leave them alone -_- It's just a waste of time to argue with them. They're the ones who are missing out these great anime. WHY SHOULD I BOTHER WITH THEM >< LOL haha sorry |
Minagatachi said: Nobody will tell you to watch the whole anime before it gets good. If you're looking for possible help then exaggerating is not useful. Most people will say 20, 30, or possibly 40. If you're looking to vent, then congratulations you just did, now you can disregard the rest of my post.Every time I try to get into Gintama I just can't do it. I've seen a lot of videos of it on YouTube and the fight scenes are spectacular. But as for the comedy... well me being as judgmental and ignorant as I possibly can, I think it is kind of average. I'm at the point of just watching all the fight scenes and that will be the end of it. I can't force myself through 265 episodes simply because its fans have promised that it will get better. How far did you get and what did you think of it? The first 15 or 20 episodes are mainly for character introduction(with some funny episodes peppered in), a main source of the series comedy is with it's large cast of recurring characters so it does pay off. Whoever made the anime knew that that wouldn't be as interesting so they made the first two episodes filler, where everyone is already introduced and tried to make it into a normal later episode. It didn't work though, many people(including me) have dropped it on the first or second episode. Quite frankly they sucked. I see it as the first two episodes are filler that new watchers could skip, but that they should watch the first 20 or so episodes knowing that they are for character introduction and are not as funny as the rest. And then from 20 something on it gradually gets better and funnier. Some say it gets to 30 or 40 when it starts getting hilarious. The first serious arc(with those fights you like) is in the 50s or 60s, they don't come along too often, it's mostly a comedy. |
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| I don't think it's as funny as people make it out to be, but it is certainly one of the funniest anime I've seen. I don't really care for the action though. |
yadayada said: Are you really where your list says you are? In that case then it gets funnier and you haven't seen the first good serious action arc yet. But even then the action isn't the greatest I've seen and I enjoy the comedy more.I don't think it's as funny as people make it out to be, but it is certainly one of the funniest anime I've seen. I don't really care for the action though. |
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| seriously, i'm regretting I watched this anime. But once I start an anime I got to finish it. I hoping this is one of the anime's that get good after so many episodes, but maybe I should've done more research on this before starting it. I'm on episode 23 and its not really catching my eye at all. I don't understand why the ratings so high. I especially hate characters that have a strong fighting potential don't really show off what they have and make them looks so weak like gin running from bad guys even though he can so take on in one slash. |
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animeroxz227 said: Did you skip the whole first season? This is the second season's board.seriously, i'm regretting I watched this anime. But once I start an anime I got to finish it. I hoping this is one of the anime's that get good after so many episodes, but maybe I should've done more research on this before starting it. I'm on episode 23 and its not really catching my eye at all. I don't understand why the ratings so high. I especially hate characters that have a strong fighting potential don't really show off what they have and make them looks so weak like gin running from bad guys even though he can so take on in one slash. |
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| Am I the only one who liked the first two episodes? The double ones? |
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| This is kind of a spoiler, but for everyone who has just started Gintama and thinks it is boring... It can get damn serious. It just takes its time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgi_uwjj_hg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJQsYThBNm0 |
"If you have time to think of a beautiful end, then why not live beautifully until the end?"- Sakata Gintoki, Gintama  |
LoLuX12 said: I stopped watching Gintama, when I found out there was no actual plot and it was just the same all the time. Sure, there were a couple of serious arcs, but other than that, it's just "Gintoki and Friends try to get money for the rent and Weekly JUMP". Even though the rent stuff is ignored for the majority of the series. |
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LoLuX12 said: I stopped watching Gintama, when I found out there was no actual plot and it was just the same all the time. Sure, there were a couple of serious arcs, but other than that, it's just "Gintoki and Friends try to get money for the rent and Weekly JUMP". There is a plot though, they just show bit by bit. Its mostly about the Joui Four and students of Shoyo who will change the country even if its mean fighting the whole world. |
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That disrespect to Gintoki (my all time favourite character) was disgusting as was the rest of the stuff he said. Judge an anime with a slow start after watching 5 episodes? Wow. I suppose you need to be patient in order to become a Gintama fan though. It does take a while to get good. About the Gintoki/Ichigo look comparison, go here > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ty-Nqm4Pdc and skip to 0:58 and watch up to 1:02. That's the only time Ichigo looks at all similar to Gin. That hate was stupid though. Clearly he was thinking "I'm going to hate this series," before he even started Gintama. |
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| Do people hate Gintama? |
BDL said: Yep. The ones who hate are those that're salty because they can't accept its place in the top ten is more than deserved.Do people hate Gintama? |
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| Gintama is boring as hell, when I watch this sometimes I'm sleepy Then I watched like 70-80 episodes and now I can't stop. Note: sorry for bad English |
Itsuka_RinneDec 18, 2015 9:18 AM
| Where am I and what the hell I'm reading here o_O Don't understand you. GINTAMA IS AWESOME. |
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| Gintama is apparently a divisive anime. Lots of people love it and there are naturally those who have no use for it or hate it. It's silly, because anime offers something for just about everyone and you can just ignore the stuff you don't like. But seriously, Gintama has some weaknesses and for me it's pretty much hit and miss. One episode is hilarious, followed directly by one that's not even remotely funny. And the start isn't slow, it's agonizing. The first 25 episodes are just plain weak with maybe a funny moment every 3 episodes. Not to mention everyone has a different opinion on where to start. It's like asking which Gundam you should watch. Such torture. |
| First, I didn't like it either. But It grew on me. I put it on hold for a very long time so i'm going to start watching it again. |
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| haters gonna hate bro, but no matter what they said, Gintama is the best M/A I have ever read, and look at its rate, ofcourse it can't be bad and for someone said that Gintama's just a comedy, MORON! |
Joy4everDec 26, 2015 9:13 PM
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Madara22 said: First, I didn't like it either. But It grew on me. I put it on hold for a very long time so i'm going to start watching it again. wow as a guy that likes OPM or HunterxHunter or FMA like you I can't believe you don't like Gintama, seriously |
Joy4everDec 26, 2015 9:28 PM
| “The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages.” -Bansky |
| Gintama is one of my favourite anime, but I'll admit, I didn't find it all that great until about 30 episodes in (it was actually pretty boring)- I guess I was sold on the episode when Matsudaira tries to sabotage his daughter's date- and that's coming from someone who now adores the show! Not a lot of people will have the patience to wait around for ages for a series to get good, especially if it's still airing. I think the thing with Gintama is that it is mainly composed of hit or miss comedy and characters and this puts people off. People may also be inclined to compare it to other long running shounen anime when in reality, you can't really compare it to those sorts of shows at all. Gintama is one on its own, and I feel like a lot of people go wrong by trying to make comparisons with other long running anime (like Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail). It looks like just another shounen, so when you actually watch it, you get thrown off with the wacky, off-the-wall episodic tone and cast. All said and done though, at the end of the day, any show that gets a reasonable amount of love is sure to get just as much hate as well. It's impossible for everyone to like the same anime. |
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| My obligatory "Gintama is shit" comment. Now excuse me, as I am going back to my shelter, to hide from butthurt fans. ziggy_Z said: Maybe it is deserved maybe not, it is all subjective. But don't ignore the fact that there are some low life planktons sit in their basement and boost it 24/7.BDL said: Yep. The ones who hate are those that're salty because they can't accept its place in the top ten is more than deserved.Do people hate Gintama? |
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ExTamplier said: My obligatory "Gintama is shit" comment. Now excuse me, as I am going back to my shelter, to hide from butthurt fans. ziggy_Z said: Maybe it is deserved maybe not, it is all subjective. But don't ignore the fact that there are some low life planktons sit in their basement and boost it 24/7.Yep. The ones who hate are those that're salty because they can't accept its place in the top ten is more than deserved. You could say that about any other shows to, if anything 1st season of Gintama alone has a higher % giving it a 1/10 than any of the other shows in the top 10. |
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| - Gintama - Prison School - Ranma 1/2 - Hataraku Maou-sama Humor humor humor I'm a fan of Gintama's humor. Gintama and Prison School have almost the same sense of 'mature themed' humor. |
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