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Apr 29, 2012 7:26 AM

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Did I just saw Haru dreaming about having a threesome with Chiyu and Hime? O.O

And stupid Hime why won't she just move both of them instead of Haru. Is she trying to be a heroine of the day by putting herself in a coma?

And OMG kissing scene by Haru and Hime. I wish they did that in the real world

Revelation of Taku being Cyan Pile! My theory is he is the one that Hime killed and he got Brain Burst forcibly uninstalled and his girlfriend who is also an accelerator is Chiyu. He managed to install the Brain Burst again and is hidden under the name of Cyan Pile
Apr 29, 2012 7:51 AM

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Predictable... and the MC only noticed at the end of this episode, the guy is a bit slow.
lol i dont know fat ppl like him.... hes way better person than what we see in reality.... the way hes treated and not having any feeling of hate, revenge hhahah cant be.
Also the most hottest girl fell in love with the guy in 4 days/eps, (not saying its impossible but in short time haa) this show better explain this or its just total fail dumbness. Feels a bit rushed.
Whatevar.. in the end ill say this show is...err ...not bad... better than many animes of the last season and very few of the present that gets more credit than accel world while not deserving.
Good year 2012
Apr 29, 2012 7:55 AM

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BlueKite said:
And stupid Hime why won't she just move both of them instead of Haru. Is she trying to be a heroine of the day by putting herself in a coma?e


As you can see, moving in Full burst does not mean she can move freely. She's seen struggling to move in Full Burst, and probably only had the strength and time to just push Haruyuki away, rather than puling both of them away.

huntx said:
Also the most hottest girl fell in love with the guy in 4 days/eps


Does it even cross your mind that she was already interested or likes Haruyuki way before the story of the anime starts. Like how she was already investigating Cyan Pile One Week before she approached him, In episode 3.
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Apr 29, 2012 7:59 AM

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BlueKite said:

Revelation of Taku being Cyan Pile! My theory is he is the one that Hime killed and he got Brain Burst forcibly uninstalled and his girlfriend who is also an accelerator is Chiyu. He managed to install the Brain Burst again and is hidden under the name of Cyan Pile
No. Didn't you listen in episode 2? Once the Brain Burst program is uninstalled, it cannot be installed once again, even if you change your Neuro Linker.
And no, Cyan Pile is not a King.
Apr 29, 2012 8:03 AM

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belatkuro said:
BlueKite said:

Revelation of Taku being Cyan Pile! My theory is he is the one that Hime killed and he got Brain Burst forcibly uninstalled and his girlfriend who is also an accelerator is Chiyu. He managed to install the Brain Burst again and is hidden under the name of Cyan Pile
No. Didn't you listen in episode 2? Once the Brain Burst program is uninstalled, it cannot be installed once again, even if you change your Neuro Linker.
And no, Cyan Pile is not a King.


Yes, Cyan Pile is just a lvl 4 Burst Linker, All the kings are Lvl 9 Burst Linkers.

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Apr 29, 2012 9:07 AM

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Why? why did they censored Araya's face? They really missed out a epic scene by doing that and also by not copping the manga at the car accident scene. And when kuroyukihime did the special accelerating the background music messed up the whole scene, it didn't matched with the scene at all. Also the scene where the nurse gave Haruyuki the student handbook had a bigger meaning and was easier to understand in the manga. Really disappointing episode in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong it was a good episode but I was expecting better
Apr 29, 2012 9:40 AM

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lobkestar said:
Why? why did they censored Araya's face?


I think someone in this thread mentioned that recently there are many car crashes like that in Japan.

Better than what happened to "Nice Boat", since it didn't get postponed.

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Apr 29, 2012 9:50 AM

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kaimax said:

Does it even cross your mind that she was already interested or likes Haruyuki way before the story of the anime starts. Like how she was already investigating Cyan Pile One Week before she approached him, In episode 3.

i dont disagree, i just dont know the same way we know she was investigating Cyan Pile... maybe i missed something or i hope they explain it on next eps, thats what i meant.. or... or i will just ignore it... and think love sometimes is ... simple.
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Apr 29, 2012 10:23 AM

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Holy crap, that's a lot of development for just one episode. Confessions coming out already so early in the show.

I think they could've done some of the scenes better, though.
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I really like how this series gets more and more momentum. Every single episode is better than the previous one and I hope it won't stop too soon. I like how Haruyuki got his resolve and hope he will grow even stronger. He has a princess to protect now after all.
Apr 29, 2012 11:12 AM

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5layer said:
I think they could've done some of the scenes better, though.

Doesn't mean they won't show some later. It's currently following the LN really closely.
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i hope they explain it on next eps, thats what i meant.. or... or i will just ignore it... and think love sometimes is ... simple.

Honestly, just ignore it, trying to think too hard about it ruins it. Like you said yourself sometimes Love is simple, and it doesn't need an explanation.

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Apr 29, 2012 12:18 PM

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kaimax said:
BlueKite said:
And stupid Hime why won't she just move both of them instead of Haru. Is she trying to be a heroine of the day by putting herself in a coma?e


As you can see, moving in Full burst does not mean she can move freely. She's seen struggling to move in Full Burst, and probably only had the strength and time to just push Haruyuki away, rather than puling both of them away.


I mean they can both move their physical bodies while accelerating. She doesn't need to use her high level command skill imo

belatkuro said:
BlueKite said:

Revelation of Taku being Cyan Pile! My theory is he is the one that Hime killed and he got Brain Burst forcibly uninstalled and his girlfriend who is also an accelerator is Chiyu. He managed to install the Brain Burst again and is hidden under the name of Cyan Pile
No. Didn't you listen in episode 2? Once the Brain Burst program is uninstalled, it cannot be installed once again, even if you change your Neuro Linker.
And no, Cyan Pile is not a King.


That is however my opinion. I mean the King got his Brain Burst program removed right? Probably a miracle happened and he went back to level one
Apr 29, 2012 1:31 PM

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kaimax said:
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Why? why did they censored Araya's face?


I think someone in this thread mentioned that recently there are many car crashes like that in Japan.

Better than what happened to "Nice Boat", since it didn't get postponed.


I know that there are a lot car accidents lately but why would you censor a face while they do show a person getting hit and laying on the ground while bleeding
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1 ep. - hated it
2 ep. - thought that I should give it a try
3 ep. - it's getting interesting
4 ep. - it's f***ing good
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man that was totally unexpected.
cant wait till they show haru and taku going against each other
Apr 29, 2012 2:59 PM

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Damn it Haruaki, why did you say such things to Kuroyuki! She actually even confesses to you later. Can't believe she's practically gone so soon. T_T

Now she's very vulnerable in the hospital's network. Cyan-pile was actually looking through Chiyu's eyes and found out where she was. I had a suspicion it would be Taku since the last episode. Hopefully Haruaki beats his ass and Chiyu will believe him about Taku.

Can't wait for the duel.

Apr 29, 2012 4:09 PM

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lol nerds

I don't follow the manga and Taku being Cile will need alot of explaining next episode.

fatty can beat Taku avatar up as much as he wants, but Hime still in the hospital enduring real damages! ROFL!
Apr 29, 2012 4:13 PM
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NOOOO KUROYUKIHIME COME BACKKK
and excited for next week battle
Apr 29, 2012 5:42 PM

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That was one of the most touching episodes i've watched.
loved the drama.

But lemme say that i knew taku was cyan pile since the last episode. just had a feeling.

Cant wait for the next ep.
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Apr 29, 2012 6:23 PM

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I hope that fat bastard gets killed...MAKING A GIRL CRY..PFFT...
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Apr 29, 2012 7:32 PM

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BlueKite said:
kaimax said:
BlueKite said:
And stupid Hime why won't she just move both of them instead of Haru. Is she trying to be a heroine of the day by putting herself in a coma?e


As you can see, moving in Full burst does not mean she can move freely. She's seen struggling to move in Full Burst, and probably only had the strength and time to just push Haruyuki away, rather than puling both of them away.


I mean they can both move their physical bodies while accelerating. She doesn't need to use her high level command skill imo


You didn't pay attention to any explanations, in this anime huh?

In Burst Link, the only thing that can move is their Avatars, which is just a projection created by all the Social Cameras around them. In Accelerated mode they're just basically "ghosts" that cannot affect anything in the "normal world".

It's shown in the 1st episode, that in this mode, Haruyuki can't even move the neuro cable, let alone try and move his own body. Burst Link only gives you an advantage in making a plan in a split second.

The only way to move your body in Burst Link is using the Lvl 9 only emergency skill, Full Burst.

Although it's debatable if they can move fast enough to avoid the car. Heck, most people will just stand still in shock when they know a flying car is gonna hit them.
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Apr 29, 2012 8:25 PM

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This episode was the shit. Emotional and bloody it caught me off guard with the accident happening and his friend being the hacker/burst linker.
Next week is gonna be even more of the shit! I can't wait.
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If Kuroyukihime is out for the show then I'm done. She should have let him get hit. If she was just knocked unconscious he would hardly have had a scratch. I get hit by cars for fun sometimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQK_fojaQ98
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lobkestar said:
kaimax said:
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Why? why did they censored Araya's face?


I think someone in this thread mentioned that recently there are many car crashes like that in Japan.

Better than what happened to "Nice Boat", since it didn't get postponed.


I know that there are a lot car accidents lately but why would you censor a face while they do show a person getting hit and laying on the ground while bleeding


Don't know why, but the Japanese sure is sensitive when it involves accidents.

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Well, the whole accident thing really caught me off guard. Definitively didn't see that coming. No surprise as to who Cyan Pile was, considering they've only shown, like, 4 main characters the whole series.

Sad scene there, but i'm just not able to get into the relationship with those 2. Maybe if that happened later on in the series, i'd care more. I'm not really a big fan of any of the characters so far, and the relationship seems a little forced to me, because there haven't been that many episodes.

The battle next episode should be good though.
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Well, the whole accident thing really caught me off guard. Definitively didn't see that coming. No surprise as to who Cyan Pile was, considering they've only shown, like, 4 main characters the whole series.

Sad scene there, but i'm just not able to get into the relationship with those 2. Maybe if that happened later on in the series, i'd care more. I'm not really a big fan of any of the characters so far, and the relationship seems a little forced to me, because there haven't been that many episodes.

The battle next episode should be good though.


A fair opinion?

How can this be!?


But yeah, the cyan pile thing wasn't hard to guess, considering "direct linking" would give him an opportunity to install the back door. It's was the only logical option, really (disregarding family members).
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Yes, looks like Fat shoe will be owning him in the next episode.

You never mess with fat shoe's waifu.
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BlueKite said:
kaimax said:
BlueKite said:
And stupid Hime why won't she just move both of them instead of Haru. Is she trying to be a heroine of the day by putting herself in a coma?e


As you can see, moving in Full burst does not mean she can move freely. She's seen struggling to move in Full Burst, and probably only had the strength and time to just push Haruyuki away, rather than puling both of them away.


I mean they can both move their physical bodies while accelerating. She doesn't need to use her high level command skill imo


You didn't pay attention to any explanations, in this anime huh?

In Burst Link, the only thing that can move is their Avatars, which is just a projection created by all the Social Cameras around them. In Accelerated mode they're just basically "ghosts" that cannot affect anything in the "normal world".

It's shown in the 1st episode, that in this mode, Haruyuki can't even move the neuro cable, let alone try and move his own body. Burst Link only gives you an advantage in making a plan in a split second.

The only way to move your body in Burst Link is using the Lvl 9 only emergency skill, Full Burst.

Although it's debatable if they can move fast enough to avoid the car. Heck, most people will just stand still in shock when they know a flying car is gonna hit them.
"inb4 other people, acting all smart and tough responding that both Haruyuki and Kuroyukihime can actually move away, with nerdish explanations."


Good explanation. It cleared some of the things I misunderstood. But still I feel like I am the only one who didn't like this episode
Apr 30, 2012 3:38 AM

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I can't take this seriously. Four episodes in and we already have an ultimate love declaration. Something so important needs more build-up. I admit though, that Kuroyukihime's jealous fast walk was hilarious and the slap was well executed, probably the highlight of the episode 3/5.
Apr 30, 2012 4:17 AM

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This was probably the most interesting episode so far. Something about this whole thing feels really odd though. I think Kuroyukihimes' VA is doing a meh job in the "critical" scenes, so while the whole love thing is there, it doesn't feel real to me. Eh I dunno.. x.x
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Think it's a bit silly that some people think the main character has to achieve his major change and fully develop in less than four episodes. I mean, isn't the point of a series like this the MC's personal development?

Um, anyways I've read ahead so I know where this series is going. Kind of sucks a bit of a suspense out, lol, but it is a faithful translation so far. I do have to say though that it really is too bad that they censored Arata out. I understand the reason, the car accident in Japan that some people mentioned being the probable cause of this censorship was pretty horrific and unforgivably callous on the drivers' part, but it's still too bad because it really showed how much of a psycho Arata was, to better illustrate the crap Haruyuki's had to put up with.

All I'll say about the next episode is if you think Haru's got some issues, wait tilll you see Taku's true colors. Can't wait to see that fight animated.
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Tyrel said:
supermegasonic said:
well i guess we find out this episode who cyan pile is.
now its time for a battle that will have a LOt of talking.
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Good episode,SENPAI!!!!!

That Taku face......

FULL OF EVIL!!

so i guess now we won't be friends with this person? though i feel he might just bring up som crap excuses and the MC will forgive him.


Man that face, I just wanna punch him. The next episode is gonna be intense. I've never read the anime, but I sorta of thought that Taku would be Cyan Pile, he's always wearing a blue/cyan color feel of clothing, and his eyes are a "Cyan color." Can't wait gahhhh.

i should have noticed that, but it was obvious when i finally realized it
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That nurse seems too suspicious that sneaky whore!

when in doubt EVERYONE IS A SUSPICIOUS BASTARD, lol
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....

Well... Let's hope this show gets better... At the moment, I actually take the first 4 episodes of Guilty Crown over this... And I'm not a big fan of Guilty Crown.

it seems EVERYONE hates that show, yet it still has a high rank (i think) i have got to see what that anime is about

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This one was very cool, especially the twist at the end

and to think these simple nice quotes are the rarest here, lol


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+ Not drawing out Cyan Pile 'mystery'
+ Animation of the technology

- Trying to explain impossible technology just adds useless dialogue.
- Love declaration in ep 4 is a bit soon
- Haru's self deprecation is very heavy-handed (we get it already!)


3/5 - Conceptually interesting and the plot is moving, but the characters could use some serious work. Especially Haru who cry-yells far too much to be taken seriously. The person who wrote this has a weird opinion of what depression is like.
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+ Animation of the technology

- Trying to explain impossible technology just adds useless dialogue.
- Love declaration in ep 4 is a bit soon
- Haru's self deprecation is very heavy-handed (we get it already!)

So this show sucks sacs, true.
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So I started this show last night since someone recommended it. I thought id most likely watch a couple episodes and lose interest, but I was wrong.
I was not able to go to bed until I caught up.
Sure the relationship development is rushed and a bit exaggerated. However, I think it works well enough, it doesnt need a lot of explanation, nor do i really want it.
I like the pacing, it makes the episodes really easy to watch.
I think the main reason why some people dont like it is because Haru is a fat.
I dont see that as being such a big deal, it just makes him more of an underdog and means he has more to gain.

So far I see a lot of potential in this story. Though I wonder if it will be able to realize it.
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... and i was about to drop this.
Shit just got real.
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MikedyMike said:
+ Not drawing out Cyan Pile 'mystery'
+ Animation of the technology

- Trying to explain impossible technology just adds useless dialogue.
- Love declaration in ep 4 is a bit soon
- Haru's self deprecation is very heavy-handed (we get it already!)


3/5 - Conceptually interesting and the plot is moving, but the characters could use some serious work. Especially Haru who cry-yells far too much to be taken seriously. The person who wrote this has a weird opinion of what depression is like.


TL;DR you have no idea.

I've known people who've acted very similar to this. Yeah, they've got out of it after finding a group that accepts them over time, but before that..?

And Taku doesn't really count, since Haru wants to keep his "pathetic side" hidden from him (which just serves to build up extra stress and make it all worse). Chiyu is the ONLY healthy relationship he has up until the series start. Even that one is kinda messed up, since he pushed her into becoming Taku's girlfriend.

He has NOONE he can really lean on for support whatsoever, either because of them, or because of his own reservations (not showing his true side to Taku, can't confide in Chiyu because of the whole girlfriend thing, etc.).

Is it really that hard to read into characters? People have taken their own life over bullying, I'd say this guy is tackling it a hell of a lot better, even if it's not exactly a stellar job. Bullying and no social life is no laughing matter.

People need to stop thinking "Would I act like this? No? Conclusion: Unnatural behavior!". YOUR natural behavior isn't the set default for how EVERYONE reacts to events.

Read my earlier post for an argument against the whole "lol early confession, wtf is this"-thing.

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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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XartaX said:

TL;DR you have no idea.

I've known people who've acted very similar to this. Yeah, they've got out of it after finding a group that accepts them over time, but before that..?

And Taku doesn't really count, since Haru wants to keep his "pathetic side" hidden from him (which just serves to build up extra stress and make it all worse). Chiyu is the ONLY healthy relationship he has up until the series start. Even that one is kinda messed up, since he pushed her into becoming Taku's girlfriend.

He has NOONE he can really lean on for support whatsoever, either because of them, or because of his own reservations (not showing his true side to Taku, can't confide in Chiyu because of the whole girlfriend thing, etc.).

Is it really that hard to read into characters? People have taken their own life over bullying, I'd say this guy is tackling it a hell of a lot better, even if it's not exactly a stellar job. Bullying and no social life is no laughing matter.

People need to stop thinking "Would I act like this? No? Conclusion: Unnatural behavior!". YOUR natural behavior isn't the set default for how EVERYONE reacts to events.

Read my earlier post for an argument against the whole "lol early confession, wtf is this"-thing.

edit: formatting.



Wow... way to read way more into that than needed to be. No offense but I've dealt with it in my own personal life so your KNOWING PEOPLE means **** all to me. Don't come in and blast people with such stupid and broad assumptions.

My issues are with how heavy-handed it is. It's so ramped up to 11 it isn't even funny. I said WEIRD, not UNNATURAL. I get the basics are there, but then they cranked the self-loathing dial to 11 and made it a joke. He could be a deep character if they bothered to take a subtle and serious approach, instead he is almost impossible to take seriously... and that is a shame.

Also, TL;DR? Really? You expect anyone to take you seriously when you write that? Just, wow.

Watch some SERIOUS shows that deal with depression and anxiety and then tell me this handles it well. This show spends more time info dumping in it's first 4 eps than it does establishing character relationships and personal problems.
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I'm sorry... but the main character just makes this anime almost un-watchable for me. i don't think i've ever seen a main protagonist be so pathetic in all the years i've been watching anime (he's even worse than shu from guilty crown, and that really takes some).

the story is great, but come on! Haru? really? i couldn't take the confession seriously at all with his character model, and the fact that he's crying his bloody eyes out. i think i'll give this one more ep. and if that doesn't turn things around i'll be more than happy to drop it.


People like the protagonist exist in real life and in Japan. They're usually hikkikomori at some point in their lives. Thus, all I can recommend you do is deal with it. He'll grow. There's 24 episodes after all. This isn't a show worth missing imo.
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]Nay, he isn't realistic, he goes to the other way of the scale. At least I've never met anyone nearly as pathetic in real life.


Then, move to Japan and find one. They're not difficult to locate.
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MikedyMike said:
+ Not drawing out Cyan Pile 'mystery'
+ Animation of the technology

- Trying to explain impossible technology just adds useless dialogue. (Acceptable.)
- Love declaration in ep 4 is a bit soon (Also acceptable, but in hindsight, the best we could've gotten would be episodes where the main girl spies on Haru in secret and Haru continues to lead his depressing life for no reason. You really want to see more of that? The series has 24 episodes and is really about to pick up.)
- Haru's self deprecation is very heavy-handed (we get it already!) [Research hikkikomoris in Japan. There's nothing special about Haru & there are real life people like him living in Japan. If you want to really contribute your opinion on depression, write help books for curing hikkikomori.)
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Ani-Blast said:
MikedyMike said:
+ Not drawing out Cyan Pile 'mystery'
+ Animation of the technology

- Trying to explain impossible technology just adds useless dialogue. (Acceptable.)
- Love declaration in ep 4 is a bit soon (Also acceptable, but in hindsight, the best we could've gotten would be episodes where the main girl spies on Haru in secret and Haru continues to lead his depressing life for no reason. You really want to see more of that? The series has 24 episodes and is really about to pick up.)
- Haru's self deprecation is very heavy-handed (we get it already!) [Research hikkikomoris in Japan. There's nothing special about Haru & there are real life people like him living in Japan. If you want to really contribute your opinion on depression, write help books for curing hikkikomori.)



You forgot to add... IN YOUR OPINION.

I for one don't find 4 eps of info dump and unrealistic relationships ACCEPTABLE.

The last point you make just makes you sound stupid. Seriously, write books to CURE depression? *facepalm*

Also, he isn't a hikkikomori... he's just depressed and they ramped it to 11 instead of establishing it so we could understand how bad off he was.

I gave the show a 3/5, that is a POSITIVE review you fools. They were negatives IN MY OPINION that brought the show down in parts. Establishing characters is one of the most important parts of a show it isn't ACCEPTABLE to skip that part of it for any reason.

Have you seen Ano Hana? That show does a much better job establishing it's characters depth and emotions.

But again... THREE OUT OF FIVE IS POSITIVE. I am still watching the show, and am not slagging it. I think it does a lot of other things well, and I find the overall plot entertaining. I just think they skipped character moments to push things faster.
MikedyMikeMay 1, 2012 5:32 PM
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You forgot to add... IN YOUR OPINION.

I for one don't find 4 eps of info dump and unrealistic relationships ACCEPTABLE.

The last point you make just makes you sound stupid. Seriously, write books to CURE depression? *facepalm*

Also, he isn't a hikkikomori... he's just depressed and they ramped it to 11 instead of establishing it so we could understand how bad off he was.

I gave the show a 3/5, that is a POSITIVE review you fools. They were negatives IN MY OPINION that brought the show down in parts. Establishing characters is one of the most important parts of a show it isn't ACCEPTABLE to skip that part of it for any reason.

.. and yes there are people in real life CLOSE to what Haru is like. Thing is, they would still have to be established to be worth caring about. You can't feel for someone's plight when they do next to nothing to show you it even exists. Him crying about it is not establishing.


~Adding the necessary "My Opinion" tag~
Well, there's something though. I don't think we're supposed to feel for Haru's plight. At least I don't. I accept how they've established his character and want to see what's unique about him enough to warrant him being the MC and also making this story worthwhile. I don't particularly feel sorry for him and don't believe the audience needs to in order to move forward with this show.

Thus, I can agree that the pacing is definitely off if you're not willing to accept the character for how he is with just 4 episodes. At the same time, I can't tell if you acknowledged my point that "the best we could've gotten would be episodes where the main girl spies on Haru in secret and Haru continues to lead his depressing life for no reason. You really want to see more of that? The series has 24 episodes and is really about to pick up.". Is it worth debating at only Episode 4 of 24 Episodes if the staff should've spent more episodes establishing Haru?

EDIT: I reciprocated with Black Lotus when she slapped him. He definitely needed to get her message through his thick skull, even if it still might take a while for it to do so. And the fast pacing does make it hard to believe in Black Lotus' love for Haru even without the info dump that is definitely the technology explanations (though I'm not sure if there's a pre-existing good example of an anime that does technology explanations well and at a sufficient pace).
Ani-BlastMay 1, 2012 5:45 PM
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Ani-Blast said:
At the same time, I can't tell if you acknowledged my point that "the best we could've gotten would be episodes where the main girl spies on Haru in secret and Haru continues to lead his depressing life for no reason. You really want to see more of that? The series has 24 episodes and is really about to pick up.". Is it worth debating at only Episode 4 of 24 Episodes if the staff should've spent more episodes establishing Haru?


I don't think that is the best we could have gotten, and I don't think 1 or 2 of 24 eps is a lot to establish your MAIN ****ing CHARACTER.

The plot picking up is great... but the characters are an important part of that, and without establishing them fully you leave a lot of emotion out of the equation.

I don't just accept what I am given for characters, it's LAZY storytelling. It doesn't take a lot to establish them, and they kind of failed in that. The point of a main character is to feel for them and want them to succeed, that is the point of a STORY.
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MikedyMike said:

I don't think that is the best we could have gotten, and I don't think 1 or 2 of 24 eps is a lot to establish your MAIN ****ing CHARACTER.

The plot picking up is great... but the characters are an important part of that, and without establishing them fully you leave a lot of emotion out of the equation.

I don't just accept what I am given for characters, it's LAZY storytelling. It doesn't take a lot to establish them, and they kind of failed in that. The point of a main character is to feel for them and want them to succeed, that is the point of a STORY.


Or A [Changed from 'THE' to 'A' for truth, much as yours should be] point of a STORY is to see how the whole story itself will create character development for our main characters, putting the crux of the STORY on the characters themselves.
I believe Haru's established enough to where we can predict how he would react to most situations sans any character development. He's not a very complicated character as it is, even when he himself insists on being a pawn for the most popular girl in the school. If Haru manages to do something different than what we'd expect in future episodes and continues to do so, then that should establish display some character growth, should it not?
Ani-BlastMay 1, 2012 6:04 PM
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Ani-Blast said:


Or A point of a STORY is to see how the whole story itself will create character development for our main characters, putting the crux of the STORY on the characters themselves.
I believe Haru's established enough to where we can predict how he would react to most situations sans any character development. He's not a very complicated character as it is, even when he himself insists on being a pawn for the most popular girl in the school. If Haru manages to do something different than what we'd expect in future episodes and continues to do so, then that should establish display some character growth, should it not?


Character development with barely established characters holds far less meaning. You are REALLY upselling a show that has done little to deserve it through 4 episodes. If it gets better, good... I hope it does. I, however, don't deal in hypotheticals as you seem prone to do.

And no, I am gonna stick with THE... because that is the way I view it. Character and plot go hand in hand without one the other suffers.

That is about all I have to say to someone with the maturity to place that first line in their signature. As smart as you may be your argument loses all validity with childish nonsense like that.

MikedyMikeMay 1, 2012 6:12 PM
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MikedyMike said:

Character development with barely established characters holds far less meaning. You are REALLY upselling a show that has done little to deserve it through 4 episodes. If it gets better, good... I hope it does. I, however, don't deal in hypotheticals as you seem prone to do.

And no, I am gonna stick with THE... because that is the way I view it. Character and plot go hand in hand without one the other suffers.

That is about all I have to say to someone with the maturity to place that first line in their signature. As smart as you may be your argument loses all validity with childish nonsense like that.



Glad we could have this argument then. I apologize for the lack of maturity in that last round. I felt like since we were already debating maturely on the Internet of all things that we could afford to loosen up a little. Alas, I was wrong. :< Time and a place for everything though it's not all set in stone as to when & where.

I'll keep watching and keep your points in mind.
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May 1, 2012 6:24 PM

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In closing:

I enjoy the show despite the small issue I have with the lack of character establishing. I hope it gets better and the end of last episode showed signs of exactly that.

Still watching it, and will continue to unless it dips in quality. I am allowed to want for more in the shows I watch. Especially ones people label 'Can't Miss'. I expect can't miss to hit on all levels, and this show hasn't... YET.

That's the last of my posts for this episode. I will post again for ep 5 when I watch it.
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Surprised to see the friend being reveal as a burst linker so soon (which I suspected, but I thought he was one of the kings)

I don't doubt the she might have develop feelings for him, but for some reason I still think she's using him so that she can defeat him once he reaches level 9

ps. If all of this was already discussed in previous ep. discussions, then I'm sorry but I haven't been to any of them.
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I suspected that Taku would be Cyan Pile, the battle next week should be pretty good.

My full impressions on it is here - http://goani.me/accel-world-episode-4/
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