genre should be slice of life
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#21
05-01-12, 4:35 AM
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Des said: 2 episodes in, it's still just a (boring) slice of life. The mystery is "Why would someone rent an unpopular book". It's just a 13 episodes anime ;) Actually, it's a 21 episodes. Or was in there some hidden, almost invisible meaning behind those words of you? And yeah, sometimes everyday misterys can be refreshing. |
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05-01-12, 4:49 AM
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traittrait said: Des said: 2 episodes in, it's still just a (boring) slice of life. The mystery is "Why would someone rent an unpopular book". It's just a 13 episodes anime ;) Actually, it's a 21 episodes. Or was in there some hidden, almost invisible meaning behind those words of you? And yeah, sometimes everyday misterys can be refreshing. Oh yeah :P No I just forgot :P Badges: |
#23
05-01-12, 8:30 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 174 |
Hyouka is Slice of Life? IT IS, KyoAni did mentioned it in the trailer (implied). It just that people were too ignorant to do a lil-bit research. Well, can't blame them tho, since the original material is nowhere could be seen. Veronin said: CG said: Genre is important. I'm personally trying to decide if it's worth watching, and genre is determinative here: if it's slice of life, I won't watch, but if it's mystery, I'll give it a try. Slice of life is not just "cute girls doing cute things", it's broad and encompasses anime like Mushishi, Kino's Journey, GTO, Haruhi, Usagi Drop, Aria, Haibane Renmei, Azumanga Daioh, Clanand After Story, Natsume Yuujinchou, Nodame Cantabile, etc. If you avoid an anime because it's labeled under a genre you usually dislike then you have more problems here than anybody else. You're talking to 10-14 yrs-old, so of course he wouldn't like whatever you mentioned. kurizentalk said: mystery was better than slice of life.. Thats weird, because SoL has the highest rank overall compared to Mystery (Not to mention it sells more than mystery, even if you compare it to Naruto) :/ |
#24
05-07-12, 6:24 PM
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i really dont think this is a SoL. |
#25
05-13-12, 4:42 PM
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nelsonbrabra said: It's not.i really dont think this is a SoL. Seems a lot of people here don't know what SoL is. People are confusing the 'School' genre with SoL. When this series first started it was only under 'Mystery'. Now 'School' is added which is exactly what it is. There's a difference between School and SoL. Des said: No. It's like calling rom-coms SoL. 2 episodes in, it's still just a (boring) slice of life. ) Just no. There's a reason SoL is its own genre otherwise nearly every anime would fall under it. Modified by Yvese, 05-13-12, 4:54 PM |
#26
05-13-12, 6:17 PM
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Well they put Haruhi as slice of life even though by your strict definition that is not 100% correct. Thus, there is valid reason to believe this can be considered slice of life. Maybe after the second arc is over it will be become a bit more obvious. http://chikorita157.com/2010/08/20/what-is-the-definition-of-slice-of-life-anime/ bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
#27
05-13-12, 6:52 PM
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guys...some you really need a hobby or something. To me, slice-of-life is less an anime genre on it's own and more some kind of style in storytelling. There are mystery stories, comedy stories, drama stories etc. that are presented with slice-of-life storytelling(what i would define as a storytelling focused on "realistic" character development and presentation of their lifes from different angles) and the genre of these stories would be mystery, comedy or drama. Often it is not "2deep4u", but some people just being "2dumb4this" |
#28
05-13-12, 7:21 PM
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Nucksen said: To me, slice-of-life is less an anime genre on it's own and more some kind of style in storytelling. There are mystery stories, comedy stories, drama stories etc. that are presented with slice-of-life storytelling (what i would define as a storytelling focused on "realistic" character development and presentation of their lifes from different angles) and the genre of these stories would be mystery, comedy or drama. Someone finally gets it. But the "genre" of MAL is not really the genre in the literary sense. It's a very loose system of categorization. And those stories using slice-of-life style should be categorized as such. bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
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05-13-12, 7:32 PM
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wakka9ca said: Someone finally gets it. But the "genre" of MAL is not really the genre in the literary sense. It's a very loose system of categorization. And those stories using slice-of-life style should be categorized as such. I'm aware of that(school isn't a genre either ;) ). That's ok. Hyouka has some SOL elements in its storytelling, so this category can be added. I only had a really big problem with calling slice-of-life a genre. To me, Hyouka is a school-based MYSTERY show(at least until now) told with a bit of SOL and i won't kill anyone over thinking otherwise xD Often it is not "2deep4u", but some people just being "2dumb4this" |
#30
05-13-12, 9:14 PM
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I would call it both a mystery and a slice-of-life anime. It is taking the regular, ordinary life of an everyday student that happens to be dull and lifeless while they solve mysteries through the use of the classics club. |
#31
05-13-12, 11:30 PM
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Moderately dull Slice of Life with some mystery added for good measure |
#32
05-21-12, 5:57 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2012 Posts: 37 |
There is a bit of Slice-of-Life element applied, but from the looks of it, there's not enough to be categorized in it. When I think of Slice-of-Life, it's telling me that what the anime portrays what usually happen in the real world instead of focusing on the story much. This means the show focuses more on the major character's everyday life and add elements that really doesn't have a strong plot behind it. K-On, Clannad, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu are examples of Slice-of-Life anime shows. |
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05-23-12, 3:24 AM
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Well, I think the slice of life is quite subjective... That said, I also think this shouldn't be classified as that, at least not yet, considering what we have been shown so far. I don't know about the novel, but the anime is skipping anything that's not a "mystery" (like how or when did Ibara join the club). We don't see the daily routines or troubles of these characters. The interactions are, again, mostly about the mysteries, and they rarely talk about themselves. So if someone says this is definitely a slice of life, I'd say it's a very thin slice. Nucksen said: LOL, what the hell do you think this is?guys...some you really need a hobby or something. |
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05-27-12, 3:44 PM
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Ajunky said: I don't know about the novel, but the anime is skipping anything that's not a "mystery" (like how or when did Ibara join the club). We don't see the daily routines or troubles of these characters. The interactions are, again, mostly about the mysteries, and they rarely talk about themselves. Hm, but you see, so far the entire series has been about your typical high school life, portrayed in an extremely mundane and realistic fashion. The entire directing of this series is based on realistic and mundane conversation between characters, typical of KyoAni. The story definitely follows a slice-of-life style narrative. bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
#35
05-27-12, 11:53 PM
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I believe "mystery" in Hyouka is as much (or not far) as what you can call "music" in K-ON. K-ON is a story about girls doing music, Hyouka is a story about friends solving mystery, but neither are precisely relying in their main theme as the main plot. The main theme for Hyouka is "adolescence", do some googling at the director's pre-talk. Hyouka definetely is more like a character driven show. That's why most people that disappointed with Hyouka are mystery fans, since they're expecting the wrong thing. And...Yes, if you call slice of life as a genre, Hyouka should also count as one. |
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06-03-12, 8:20 PM
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zeroyuki92 said: I believe "mystery" in Hyouka is as much (or not far) as what you can call "music" in K-ON. Yes, that's why you need to look at it from a different perspective. That's also why I think this should at least have a label of slice-of-life on MAL. bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
#37
06-09-12, 4:01 PM
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Why is everyone even arguing about this? What's the point? |
#38
06-09-12, 5:25 PM
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StormSky92 said: To keep the site up to date and to help people find new anime to watch?Why is everyone even arguing about this? What's the point? |
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06-09-12, 5:33 PM
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egoplant said: if only this were true, like thats the purpose of genres but instead people use it to avoid shows rather than watchStormSky92 said: To keep the site up to date and to help people find new anime to watch?Why is everyone even arguing about this? What's the point? "Being a fan of something is like having a penis. It's normal to have one and it's nice to be proud of it. But for the love of god, don't pull it out in public and don't wave it in other's faces." |
#40
06-18-12, 11:02 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 151 |
If only this were a real slice of life. The "mysteries" are the thing that completely wrecks the show for me. Just everyday school life would be so much more entertaining. Although if this were a slice of life Chitanda would have to grow as a character, and not just be a moe archetype. The other 3 are reasonably interesting personalities. But those mysteries.... "In the distant future I see open fields for far more important researches. Psychology will be based on a new foundation, that of the necessary acquirement of each mental power and capacity by gradation. Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history." (Darwin, 1859) |
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