If you could afford it, would you keep a pretty boy as your
I'm male and my answer is yes.
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I'm female and my answer is no.
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| During those glory days of ancient China, rich merchants, kings and emperors have been known to keep a number of pretty boys or beautiful men as "pets", or a better term may be "male concubines". Since the Manchurians conquered China this practice has all been forgotten now, but given the chance (if you could afford it), and if it wasn't such a taboo practice, would you have liked to keep one? I do realize that the standard of a man's appearance in the west is vastly different from the east, but this is an anime forum, people may actually LIKE beautiful men. Or I could be wrong... Anyway, I'm really curious what you guys think. A little quick trivia: The masked Chinese war general 蘭陵王 as depicted in the well-known Japanese dance is one such "beautiful man", though he never submitted to anyone as a concubine. His superiors complained of his beautiful face having the opposite effect of intimidating the enemy, and so the mask. Pictures if anyone wants to see what artists have imagined them to look like: Although male concubines are pretty much a very real part of ancient history and culture, some of the stories of how these beautiful men died (or escaped) were pretty ridiculous. Some of which said "fainted from over-crowding of girls wanting to see his face, died days later" and "abducted by princess who has 30 concubines. She threatens suicide if he won't be her pet. When he persists in leaving, she eventaully relented and let him go". Sounds like really good fan-fic lol, but damn if it were real, then the old ways are really the way to go for open-mindedness. Edit: There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. These men are not forced into becoming slaves, but yes they MAY be treated like property, but not the kind where the "pet" is absolutely powerless to do anything. Pets are pampered, not used as slaves. First the term used for the male concubines is 男寵, which makes up of the word 男 meaning boy or man, and 寵 meaning to love, pamper, to spoil or concubine. Obviously they are not treated as slaves, and records of 男寵 may even become kings or warriors. Listing a few: 龙阳君 - Male concubine of the king of 魏安厘. Constantly in need of the kings reassurance that he still loves him. Known to be extremely talented in sword fighting, various martial arts and politics. Have on several occasion represented his king on diplomatic missions. 韩子高 - Male concubine of king 陈蒨. He was the only recorded male concubine who was allowed to take the role of the "queen". 归守明 - Male concubine of king 王延钧. Known to make the palace harem of imperial concubines his own little empire. 李二哇 - Male concubine of the militia chieften 张献忠. Was kidnapped by a war general. To win him over, the general promised him every thing that the militia chieften could provide and better, but he flat out rejected him. To prove his loyalty, he refused to eat and died of hunger. I think this is clear enough now? |
MouhappaiApr 29, 2012 9:30 AM
holypoop said: "I'm gay and HELL YES" ...why is this even an option tho? Sounds like having a slave, so no thank you. Okay, I removed the option, might come off as slightly insensitive I guess. A concubine is not a slave. I was expecting someone to say that though. They are more like an adopted son than anything like a slave. You get to live life doing whatever you like, getting spoiled and all. |
MouhappaiApr 26, 2012 8:24 AM
| What is this? -and no. I don't wish for sex-slaves. You guys are silly if you want teh women and men all to yourselves. |
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| I can't see the full question it seems. Must be my iPhone. |
| Sadly it's so "taboo" I don't even want to picture myself in such a hypothetical scenario. |
| Speaking as a Turkish prince, the idea of having lots of attractive people whom I can treat as dolls is very appealing to me. My preference would be that they were female of course, but being of a rather adventurous disposition I would not be affronted by the notion of some man on man sexual escapades if the men in question were effeminate looking or 'beautiful' in the sense that women are beautiful. After all, I am unconcerned with anything other than satisfying my copious sexual appetite, and does it matter if my seed finds it release in the orifices of a woman or a man? |
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| Slaves? Yes please. Pretty slaves? Yes indeed. Naturally women would be preferable, but I'm sure a prettyboy could be useful too, he can do the dishes and clean the house just as well, and I could probably use him to scam money out of rich ladies. |
| Concubines are not slaves, people... |
| I see dead people. |
| It's funny, but I usually prefer the look of these "pretty boys" more than the overly masculine Western ideal. As for whether I want them as concubines? Nope, I'd rather have women, since I don't lean that way. I can keep them as servants, though. A strong, handsome man with flowing hair would be a pretty cool bodyguard. |
Nintendosoni said: Concubines are not slaves, people... This And this... Baman said: Slaves? Yes please. Pretty slaves? Yes indeed. Naturally women would be preferable, but I'm sure a prettyboy could be useful too, he can do the dishes and clean the house just as well, and I could probably use him to scam money out of rich ladies. |
GloriousHawkApr 26, 2012 11:42 AM
| I do know that concubines are not slaves, but it seems to me the term might be different for different cultures. I think more information on what exactly you mean would make this topic more on the topic that you had in mind. |
| No way. I'll keep animals as pets, but humans? Fuck that. |
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| I have a dog. I love my dog more than I will ever love any human being. My dog is more of a friend than a pet, a part of my family. I couldn't care less for having a ''pet'' human of any kind. Though, having a human as a pet would probably the most useful thing that it could do. |
| If I did not have to pay for the expenses of having one, then I would think about it. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
Alpha-kudasu said: I have a dog. I love my dog more than I will ever love any human being. My dog is more of a friend than a pet, a part of my family. I couldn't care less for having a ''pet'' human of any kind. Though, having a human as a pet would probably the most useful thing that it could do. But Alpha, what if I want to be your dog? :< |
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| I'd love to have one as a pet. |
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| Can they cook? As I would take 3: - one would cook - one would be cleaning the house and doing stuff like this - one would work instead of me, some well paid job Something like intership but for life... why not |
| mindblown. |
| Weeeeeeell being NOT gay, a pretty male is of no real use to me. I'd rather if it had to be male they were just very strong and able to give a back rub the lasted 3 hours without tiring. Now that would be useful. I suffer from back ache. I couldn't care less if they were ugly. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
| There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. These men are not forced into becoming slaves, but yes they MAY be treated like property, but not the kind where the "pet" is absolutely powerless to do anything. First the term used for the male concubines is 男寵, which makes up of the word 男 meaning boy or man, and 寵 meaning to love, pamper, to spoil or concubine. Obviously they are not treated as slaves, and records of 男寵 may even become kings or warriors. Listing a few: 龙阳君 - Male concubine of the king of 魏安厘. Constantly in need of the kings reassurance that he still loves him. Known to be extremely talented in sword fighting, various martial arts and politics. Have on several occasion represented his king on diplomatic missions. 韩子高 - Male concubine of king 陈蒨. He was the only recorded male concubine who was allowed to take the role of the "queen". 归守明 - Male concubine of king 王延钧. Known to make the palace harem of imperial concubines his own little empire. 李二哇 - Male concubine of the militia chieften 张献忠. Was kidnapped by a war general. To win him over, the general promised him every thing that the militia chieften could provide and better, but he flat out rejected him. To prove his loyalty, he refused to eat and died of hunger. I think this is clear enough now? |
| This kind of reminds me of the manga Kimi wa Pet, better known in English as "Tramps Like Us". I would keep a pretty boy as my pet! Provided he didn't try to do anything lecherous to me. XD |
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| Seems like a good investment, keep in the basement to produce cash. |
| ...! Of course I would keep one, it would be really interesting and Funny~ |
| No, I wouldnt mind a buddy to hang around all the time but they would just make me insecure on how I look. |
CodeXen said: mindblown. Keeping one would totally ruin my pride as a straight guy. |
| wow this thread is sexist, you women are pigs! (not serious... lol'd) |
| I'd have one and I'm a guy, i wouldn't do "stuff" with him but I'd make him work damn hard because I'm far too lazy to go make my own food... |
Kallum260 said: I'd have one and I'm a guy, i wouldn't do "stuff" with him but I'd make him work damn hard because I'm far too lazy to go make my own food... If you can afford to own one, then you probably have servants make your food already. :P |
Mouhappai said: Kallum260 said: I'd have one and I'm a guy, i wouldn't do "stuff" with him but I'd make him work damn hard because I'm far too lazy to go make my own food... If you can afford to own one, then you probably have servants make your food already. :P "afford to own one", i wouldn't pay him, I'd feed him cheap food like... bread lmao then he might die of starvation... damn, I'm so heartless. |
| I do want a hot guy but not as a pet. I just want someone to keep me company. |
| Yes, but it totally depends on how they look and how they dress. Manly men? Fuck no. Girly men; welcome to my abode! |
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| Androgynous men, hmm.. Yes, this could work to my advantage. I'd have him do a myriad of jobs, from coercion to blackmail to an assortment of seduction schemes. Of course, it'd be both to our benefits. I'd rather not have him as a 'pet', but as a 'business partner'. animelly said: I do want a hot guy but not as a pet. I just want someone to keep me company. <3? |
LaurietApr 28, 2012 7:39 PM
| -s so so beautiful..I'm dazzled. |
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| I'd keep one if they dressed up like a cute girl for me and wore frilly dresses. No homo. |
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| I'd keep one as my maid. I mean, they ARE pretty. |
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| No, just no. On the other hand.. You can have one! No, take ten! That would mean there are more fish for me to catch, or something, harr harr. |
kiltroutgore said: "I am meme, hear me roar." |
| Dafuq. |
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| Hmm...a no for me... |
| He can be my "whipping boy" |
| Video of pretty boys as pets here: |
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