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View Poll Results: Oath Sign or To the Beginning
Oath Sign
 
88 28.66%
To the Beginning
 
158 51.47%
It's impossible to choose only one
 
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04-24-12, 12:45 PM

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Saber vs Gilgamesh?.. Nope
This is the real Ultimate battle.
For you, what OP Theme is the best?

Oath Sign(by Lisa)
Link → http://vimeo.com/30168196

To the Beginning(by Kalafina)
Link → http://vimeo.com/40814077
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04-24-12, 12:46 PM

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Sorry but, for me it is really hard to choose between these 2 masterpiece songs.
Both songs are really amazing, an orgasm for your ears. The art used in both openings are beyond any other opening theme i saw on my life.
Lisa's voice is one of the best female voices ever
Kalafina is a GODLY band, All Hail Yuki Kajiura.

My vote is for the third option
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04-24-12, 1:05 PM

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To the Beginning, because I've already read the LN and feel that the second song is more related to the story.
 
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04-24-12, 1:22 PM

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Oath Sign. If it was only music then definitelly To the Beginning (Kalafina's songs have a huge power). However, since it's about opening themes, animation is a huge part of it for me.

Oath Sign left much greater impact on me, the animation is in nearlyperfect sync with the sound, the introduction of the contestants of the battle over Holy Grail is incredible and it protrays the fighting style/attitude of everyone important. The only flaw I see in Oath Sign is that in the charatcer intro, you can't see all heroic spirits with their masters, only a few of them but that's not such a drawback, since it's most likely to give some tone of mystery about spirits to it. Oh, and (not really a flaw just a negative note) it doesn't feel unusual, it's very good both music wise and animation wise but 90% of the better fighting anime openings have the same feel.

To the Beginning is superior music wise and far inferior animation and fluency wise. Most of the time the animaton doesn't go along the song and it fails to catch the power of the song, what is very disappointing. The flow of the animation is equal to the song only in very few scenes. It feels way too rushed and not thought through what is dumb considering that they took several months break to make the show perfect. The charatcer introduction makes me feel/tells me nothing and you can't get even basic understanding of their attitude from it (if it changed compared to the first one or stayed the same). The charatcers feel emotionless themselves as if they were just figurines. You can't see who they are, just what they look like unlike Oath Sign. And since now it's probably going to be more drama than 1st season, it's a huge drawback.

Both openings, however, fit to the season they're in. Oath Sign is more actiony, while To the Beginning is more emotional. But I still feel they could have done MUCH better job with a song like To the Beginning.
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04-24-12, 1:33 PM

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I think I have no idea what people wanted from the To The Begginning's animation sequence? More action maybe? That would have been awfully out of place. I find To the Begginning to be on top here. Oath Sign is just pure eyecandy and a catchy J-Pop song. To the Begginning has that same feeling the series evokes, mainly because it was written by the same person who wrote all the music and the themes it carry convey perfectly what Fate/Zero is going through right now. You're not meant to get a feeling of "wow, cool action" when you see FateZero (although it does have it) rather it's supposed to be heavy and dark.

It reminds me a lot of the last Kalafina song I heard, Magia, Madoka Magica's ED which is just 1 very simple animation of a Shadow running through even more Shadows. It was simple but the song was enough to provoke that very heavy feeling and the thematic was very easy to see. To the Begginning has a theme, Oath Sign didn't.
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04-24-12, 1:38 PM

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It's impossible to choose only one. I love both, Oath Sign makes me happy and To The Beginning touch my heart ahuahuahuah
 
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04-24-12, 1:38 PM

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Fate/Zero's second opening > Fate/Zero's first opening

Fate/Zero's first ending > Fate/Zero's second ending
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04-24-12, 1:41 PM

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I love both songs. But they are just too different to make a comparison. 'love them both.
 
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04-24-12, 1:43 PM

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I have to go with To the Beginning.
Kalafina + Yuki Kajiura is just too strong.

I love Oath Sign too though.

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04-24-12, 1:44 PM

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I prefer To the Beginning because it completely fits the mood of the overall series. Oath Sign sounded pretty good, but I ultimately prefer this newer OP.
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04-24-12, 2:30 PM
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Easily to the beginning, both video and music wise.

I found Oath Sign's video to be disappointing. It may flow well with the music and the fighting does fit the more upbeat tune, but some scenes are random and repetitive and in the end feel out of place to me. Also Saber flying in the air or whatever at the end is weird.

Agreeing with what was already said, to the beginning is more fitting for FZ. And seeing the characters casually in their 'home', with mostly only their back visible, still brings out plenty of emotions imo. It always makes me think "oh...you'll be dying soon ;__;" or something depressing like that. There are also a few vague scenes with Iri and Kiritsugu that make you wonder what will happen or what it's supposed to mean. Oath Sign had none of that.
 
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To the Beginning gets my vote. As much as I like LiSA and Oath Sign, nothing can beat the general composition and emotional impact of Kajiura's works (although To the Beginning is far from being my favourite Kalafina song).

 
04-24-12, 3:24 PM

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to the beginning suits the mood of the 2nd half perfectly
just look at the lyrics

oath sign on the other hand was just a run of the mill song

ending theme however...i like memoria
that sung just stuck with me
maybe its cuz of the images of the servants past lives

im still waiting for tainaka sachi to sing at least ONE insert song
come on i mean its a fate franchise...you gotta have her sing a song
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04-24-12, 4:11 PM

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To the Beginning. I really loved Oath sign, but I believe "To The Beginning" fits Fate/Zero better.
 
04-24-12, 4:14 PM

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Roloko said:
Fate/Zero's second opening > Fate/Zero's first opening

Fate/Zero's first ending > Fate/Zero's second ending


This!
 
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ChrnoTodd said:
Roloko said:
Fate/Zero's second opening > Fate/Zero's first opening

Fate/Zero's first ending > Fate/Zero's second ending


This!
I like both endings fairly equally, but I'm very bias with my love for them Einzbern ladies (Iri + Ilya = me in heaven).

 
04-24-12, 4:49 PM

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To the Beginning. I like both, I just like that one more.
 
04-24-12, 5:56 PM

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They are both really good, but I'm going with Oath Sign here.
It might just be because it hasn't been long enough for To the Beginning to get stuck in my head though...

In terms of animation, they are about equal. OP1 is a lot more action-based, so it's more exciting to watch, but OP2 sets up a more somber mood and does it well.
 
04-24-12, 6:01 PM

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Reposting what I said on the other thread:


To the Beginning:
Amazing OP, I didn't think this one would top Oath Sign (Oath set the bar too high) but this is really incredible. This one really fits the show better being a sad and tragic anime and all, and now I think Oath Sign gives a more shounen-y feeling. The intro is also better than Oath's even though they have the similar visual (water under bridge on Oath, Rocky terrain with swords on Beginning) and it really gets you in the mood. Animation is top-notch as well, I like the part where Kiri is floating in the water then an afterimage of Iri hugs him in the next shot.

The only thing I hate though is Maiya's entrance when the chorus kicks in, why does the character I hate the most have to enter at the best part of the song lol. I also don't like the Motorcycle scene, it's pointless and stayed too long.
 
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I quite like the beginning of the chorus in both tracks, but I also loved Oath Sign's intro, which counts for a lot. I think the first few seconds of the OP can really do a lot to hype up the audience for the show. The animation for the second OP is more interesting and I really like how they kept the same camera movement with a contrasting scene at the beginning, but frankly I expected a slightly better song of Kalafina. It's still pretty good, sure, I would've been shocked if it weren't. It even fits the show better than Oath Sign did so I'm sure I'll at least remember it as F/Z's OP, if not in its own right. But somewhere in the back of my head, I'm thinking "is that it?". And that alone's enough to make me prefer Oath Sign.
 
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