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This series probably going to be one of the most successful KyoAni's show
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04-25-12, 8:18 PM

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Looking forward tot his anime.
 
04-25-12, 8:19 PM

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inb4 it sells worse than Nichijou.

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04-25-12, 9:12 PM

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Also, obvious nitpicking but I don't consider Umineko mystery at all.


Umineko is actually one of the few real mystery anime...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_fiction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_film


Have you read EP5-EP8? They're the reason why I don't consider Umineko much of a mystery.


yeah, 5 and 6 still have mystery in it, but i guess i agree with 7 and 8.


EP5 did, but 6 started bringing out all this "fantasy might be real" nonsense, lol.

I hope Hyouka just won't be your typical murder mystery or whatever. That would just be dead boring. But hell, has KyotoAnimation ever done something like that?
 
04-26-12, 5:57 AM

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Solkiskey said:
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The problem lies with the child- I mean people mindset, again: MINDSET. First, when they heard Haruhi is a masterpiece, they probably think that Yuki Nagato would turn up to be a creature from Aliens/AVP movies. Second, when they heard K-ON! was awesome, they probably think it will have full-blooded mecha gunfight with lots of explosions.

Now, when they heard that KyoAni was going to do a mystery anime, their mindset are already looking towards GOSICK/Un-Go/Higurashi/Umineko/Kindaichi/etc/etc/etc/etc *facepalm*. And I can guarantee that this anime will not be the same as any other "mystery" works that you've watched so far.

Seriously people, 'get over it' << ever heard this sentence before?


What kind of mystery then? How do you know it'll be different?

Also, obvious nitpicking but I don't consider Umineko mystery at all.


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If we're talking about mystery works by KyoAni. We definitely must abide by one rule: It is not a Detective Conan, Kindaichi, GOSICK (or -esque anime), Agatha Christie, Sherlock, or lots of heck amount of "mystery" you might think.

Its only another Haruhi-esque with a little tweak here and there. And don't... I mean... never expect anything "gloomy" or "gore" or someone being murdered! Let alone survival horror (read: Higurashi-esque).

I mean, come on guys, grow up already! Mystery doesn't always mean someone being murdered. Mystery doesn't always says something "very" valuable were lost. Mystery-solving doesn't always means that you're gonna save up the world. Someone playing a prank by hiding/switching your left shoe can be considered as a "mystery", if you want to think about it. *sips tea*


Do you really need to ask?

Also, KyoAni already stated from the beginning (Official site and trailer) that Hyouka would be about youth/-fulness (read: Highschool life) which 'mystery' is not it's main theme. And also, Kotenbu


 
04-26-12, 7:44 AM

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people hyouka is slice of life its main focus is NOT mystery,
its just 4 ppl in a club that spend their high school life having fun and drama and occasionally getting into some "light" mysteries, and u can tell just from ep 1 and
it seems like a good slice of life anime to me
i expect hyouka to sell 20k-30k, ranking after k-on, haruhi, and lucky star, but the sales can get better depending on how great of a slice of life anime kyoani produces
 
04-26-12, 9:17 AM

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It's really unfair to judge this show after just one episode. That's what bugs me the most about some posters.

As for this being the most successful KyoAni work? Highly unlikely.

There's no way it will beat K-ON in sales.
 
04-26-12, 5:52 PM

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You all missing the whole point, this forum has been made to troll kyoani, the anime studio that incapable of doing something different. Always anime with school setting, moe waifu shit, and whiny male characters. The worst anime studio ever. I'm really gettin bored with all the emo kids and the same old shit. Back then I have Death Note to recommend to everyone but now I feel so ashamed to recommend even one anime these days.



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04-26-12, 11:23 PM

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Yvese said:
It's really unfair to judge this show after just one episode. That's what bugs me the most about some posters.

As for this being the most successful KyoAni work? Highly unlikely.

There's no way it will beat K-ON in sales.


 
04-26-12, 11:25 PM

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ReZA171 said:
You all missing the whole point, this forum has been made to troll kyoani, the anime studio that incapable of doing something different. Always anime with school setting, moe waifu shit, and whiny male characters. The worst anime studio ever. I'm really gettin bored with all the emo kids and the same old shit. Back then I have Death Note to recommend to everyone but now I feel so ashamed to recommend even one anime these days.


KyoAni is not the best studio, but worst ever is bounce.
 
04-27-12, 2:08 AM

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hoping for another endless eight
 
04-27-12, 11:36 AM

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I don't think KyoAni is a bad studio, but they're very formulatic.
 
04-27-12, 11:44 AM

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ReZA171 said:
You all missing the whole point, this forum has been made to troll kyoani, the anime studio that incapable of doing something different. Always anime with school setting, moe waifu shit, and whiny male characters. The worst anime studio ever. I'm really gettin bored with all the emo kids and the same old shit.


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I don't think KyoAni is a bad studio, but they're very formulatic.


The whole point of KyoAni existing is to show what anime was and still can be - invigorating without the need of pointless fanservice, excessive gore/action, and irritating melodrama. They exist to show what anime is in its true glory - and that is art.

Accusing the studio of "incapable of doing something different" is frankly the biggest understatement in the history of anime. They ARE different. Compared to the majority of anime studios make out there, every new anime KyoAni creates is like a breath of fresh air. It's why fans always refer to KyoAni as the slice-of-life king. They deserve all that praise, as no other studio is or can ever be like them.
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04-27-12, 2:56 PM

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The fact that they're always doing slice of life and never getting out of their "safe zone" makes them very formulatic.
 
04-27-12, 4:04 PM

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The fact that they're always doing slice of life and never getting out of their "safe zone" makes them very formulatic.

If you were part of a business, would you try something new that has a potential of failing, or stick to what you definitely know that sells?

As far as I know, KyoAni is still a business through and through, and I definitely think that they'd rather make shows that WILL sell rather than branching out (see Nichijou).
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04-27-12, 6:24 PM

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The fact that they're always doing slice of life and never getting out of their "safe zone" makes them very formulatic.


"If it isn't broken, don't fix it." It works. Why should they stop?

Also, they DO try new ideas. "Slice-of-life" is very general; within that scope they've done things like Mecha (Full-metal Panic), romantic drama (Clannad), comedy (Lucky Star and Nichijou), moe (K-on!), and now mystery (Hyouka).

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As far as I know, KyoAni is still a business through and through, and I definitely think that they'd rather make shows that WILL sell rather than branching out (see Nichijou).


Sure they lost sales with Nichijou (oddly enough), but KyoAni simply shrugged it off. They have a MUCH larger budget than what they have people believe. That's why they were able to make Hyouka.

Besides, Nichijou has a HUGE following here in North America. If someone licensed it here, sales will top the chart for sure.
 
04-30-12, 8:42 AM

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No. K-ON and Haruhi got me on the first episode. This anime didn't so no, I really don't think so.

Not to say it won't get interesting. Just saying that the two most successful KyoAni anime did something to me on the first episode where as this didn't.

 
04-30-12, 9:29 AM

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No. K-ON and Haruhi got me on the first episode. This anime didn't so no, I really don't think so.

Not to say it won't get interesting. Just saying that the two most successful KyoAni anime did something to me on the first episode where as this didn't.


Something I learned in psychology is that, when we're evaluating a past experience, the points which jump out most are the most/least pleasurable moments, the beginning and the end (with a slightly heavier emphasis on the latter). If the beginning didn't hook you like K-On and Haruhi, give the entire series a try - your final judgment may still change.
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04-30-12, 11:43 AM

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Kenta_Maebara said:
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The fact that they're always doing slice of life and never getting out of their "safe zone" makes them very formulatic.


"If it isn't broken, don't fix it." It works. Why should they stop?

Also, they DO try new ideas. "Slice-of-life" is very general; within that scope they've done things like Mecha (Full-metal Panic), romantic drama (Clannad), comedy (Lucky Star and Nichijou), moe (K-on!), and now mystery (Hyouka).

Misdreavius said:
As far as I know, KyoAni is still a business through and through, and I definitely think that they'd rather make shows that WILL sell rather than branching out (see Nichijou).


Sure they lost sales with Nichijou (oddly enough), but KyoAni simply shrugged it off. They have a MUCH larger budget than what they have people believe. That's why they were able to make Hyouka.

Besides, Nichijou has a HUGE following here in North America. If someone licensed it here, sales will top the chart for sure.


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04-30-12, 11:46 AM

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1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had
2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework
4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre
5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ]
6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West
8 Music[ Instrumentation]
9 merchandise sales
10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry]





 
04-30-12, 11:55 AM

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Unless it becomes more interesting, it won't be.
Ep 2 was also boring.
Good animations isn't what makes an anime good. Story > animation.
And it feels like KyoAni is just trying to show off with their animation skills.
But, most other animation companies could do just as good animations as KyoAni if they want to, though most would rather show a good story than animations :P

I loved Clannad, Kanon, K-ON, Air, Nichijou.
Haruhi is also nice, but didn't loe it, just liked it.
But all of those was at least interesting.

The mystery in this anime is lame.
Were they trying to solve why someone would rent a book that was unpopular in ep 2? :P

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