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Apr 23, 2012 10:27 PM

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The second mystery had potential, but they didn't build on what made the secret club so mysterious, other than no one other than the members know about it... WHY IS IT SECRET? WHAT IS THE CODE BEHIND THE RECRUITMENT INFO? WHO IS THE NEW PRESIDENT? The mysterious aspects weren't even touched upon...

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I want to believe that you understood that the second mystery was a lie, right?
 
Apr 23, 2012 10:29 PM

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Amazing animation and Chitandra is greatness. the episode itself was only decent. but ill be sticking with it for sure.
 
Apr 24, 2012 12:31 AM

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Wow, I like the main character! He is good at logic that's why I like him. When he meet with the female, I'm PRAYING she won't act like HARUHI or I hope she IS NOT A FREAKING TSUNDERE! I was soooo nervous and to make it worse, that scene was slow motioned! I'm so relieved she is not a tsundere and not annoying like Haruhi!

I do thought Hotaro is like Kyon a bit (Idk I just get the feeling), and Chitanda also resemble Haruhi a bit (The forcefulness and mysterious power), she wasn't my taste. I dislike forceful person. Oh, at her curiousity about mysteries, it reminds me of Mayura(Matantei Loki, and I dislike her).

So, let see what will happen next! Oh yeah, I really like Hotaro's friend (Satoshi)! I hope there won't be any romance in this series... I don't know but I already dislike Hotaro and Chitanda pairing... Ah, and the OP song is great, the animation pretty good too....

I really hope some good mysteries, and some drama in later episodes...
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Apr 24, 2012 12:37 AM

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Omniknight said:
The second mystery had potential, but they didn't build on what made the secret club so mysterious, other than no one other than the members know about it... WHY IS IT SECRET? WHAT IS THE CODE BEHIND THE RECRUITMENT INFO? WHO IS THE NEW PRESIDENT? The mysterious aspects weren't even touched upon...

Didn't Hotaro make everything up, from the club to the memo? I could be wrong, as I wasn't paying too much attention at the time. It's not as much a mystery as it was a trick to aid his efficiency, or so he thought. Oddly, this was the one part of the episode I liked.
 
Apr 24, 2012 2:11 AM

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I love the graphics, and its OP :)
 
Apr 24, 2012 2:14 AM

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I love the art & animation, the character design, and the story seems promising (well it's quite boring at some points). the atmosphere is relaxing yet intriguing... yes this is going to be one good series!!!
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Apr 24, 2012 4:33 AM

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Like most people have stated here, great animation & designs. However the mysteries were non-interesting... I hope it's only the first episode.
 
Apr 24, 2012 5:06 AM

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beautiful animation, pleasant show - nothing too thrilling, but it feels like it has potential as a character driven romance/drama type thing...
 
Apr 24, 2012 5:51 AM

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MissileSoup said:
Omniknight said:
The second mystery had potential, but they didn't build on what made the secret club so mysterious, other than no one other than the members know about it... WHY IS IT SECRET? WHAT IS THE CODE BEHIND THE RECRUITMENT INFO? WHO IS THE NEW PRESIDENT? The mysterious aspects weren't even touched upon...

Didn't Hotaro make everything up, from the club to the memo? I could be wrong, as I wasn't paying too much attention at the time. It's not as much a mystery as it was a trick to aid his efficiency, or so he thought. Oddly, this was the one part of the episode I liked.


I thought that perhaps it may have been the case when he said something along the lines of "perfect timing" and had that smile, but the first mystery was so banal and there was no conclusion to the "joke" other than "Yay, we found it", that I honestly just took it as a serious attempt at mystery from the writers...
That actually makes it even worse when a made a mystery made up by the protagonist is more interesting that the actual ones...

Edit: Ya, it is obvious that it was a joke from the epilogue portion of the episode. I mentioned I skimmed the last portions of the episode because I was flat-lining from boredom.
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Apr 24, 2012 6:28 AM

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Even if the mysteries are kinda dumb at the moment, KyoAni are known for their slice-of-life shows. And I believe that Hyouka gonna be another excellent slice-of-life anime. I don't mind if they cut all that mystery out, just let me observe this everyday's life of Eru and Houtarou, and i ll be more than pleased.
IMO, this show has got a great potential,damn, it instantly became one of my favorite shows of this season.
 
Apr 24, 2012 6:28 AM

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I think its more like making Eru happy rather than solving mystery here..

kinda boring episode. zZZ
 
Apr 24, 2012 6:29 AM

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comments regarding how bad this show is so immature
Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch.
 
Apr 24, 2012 6:55 AM

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i found the flowers thing very cute. sort of like a metaphor to describe how houtarou finds chitanda intriguingly mysterious?????? (or pretty????). and it has become the planks that i will use to build my new ship.

also, THAT ANIMATION.
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Apr 24, 2012 7:07 AM

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Here go another protagonist with low motto, happy girl, unpopular? energetic friend and random mysteries. Remind me iris zero and here i was hoping for some decent mystery plot.

Art/Animation is the only plus for me.
 
Apr 24, 2012 7:15 AM

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This is pure eye-candy. Character design, animation and whatnot. ♥ Love it.

I just love the simplicity of this. Just because the "mysteries" were simple doesn't mean they're boring. It kinds of reminds me of Bakuman's PCP. And I liked that quite a lot.

Also, all the characters were just lovable. I just hope the fourth one isn't annoying.
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Apr 24, 2012 7:54 AM

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comments regarding how bad this show is so immature
I agree the negative feedback and bashing is terrible but some people don't have patience and try to convince themselves to see this show as low to be impressed later.

IMO patience and watching at least 4 to 6 episodes for the flow is needed. Sadly not all are like me and so all have differences.

One thing though, I do sympathize with fears of people that the studio may fuck in investing too much into visuals. They looks expensive to pour out.

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Apr 24, 2012 8:46 AM

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Interesting show so far. I already hate the main girl, though.

Still, those two main guys are really interesting.

Animation is...KyoAni.
 
Apr 24, 2012 9:57 AM
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For those who complain about the lack of substance of the mysteries - why? It's not like anything really happened so far. One coincidence and one elaborate lie, nothing I would consider a serious attempt to an interesting mystery by the writers. These were just tools to show the personalities of the characters and they succeeded.
Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.
 
Apr 24, 2012 9:58 AM

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It's strange.
I can enjoy Sakamichi no Apollon & Tsuritama just fine but I can't seem to enjoy this one.
I thought it was utterly boring. There was no 'hook' or 'grab' for me at all. I was even surprised I managed to finish the episode with subs.

I guess you can say I found the first episode very...underwhelming.
Hopefully it picks up in the next couple episodes and pays off in the end.
I really want to like this series.
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:34 AM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
For those who complain about the lack of substance of the mysteries - why? It's not like anything really happened so far. One coincidence and one elaborate lie, nothing I would consider a serious attempt to an interesting mystery by the writers. These were just tools to show the personalities of the characters and they succeeded.
Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.


This guy strikes again.

I feel like if I took the first episode as seriously as some of these people appear to I would have dropped 95% of the anime I've ever seen.
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:50 AM

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I've been waiting for ages for this to air and after watching the first episode it proves to be interesting. If it's not a plain Slice of Life thing I'll definitely like it. So happy that it will not be only 12 or 13 episodes. The animation is really good; very colorful characters.

10/10
 
Apr 24, 2012 12:06 PM

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So...., flicking..., boring!!!!!!! my god, i cant believe i buffered this sh*t lmao. hopefully it will get better, else its wikipedia for it!
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Apr 24, 2012 12:29 PM

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Omniknight said:
I thought that perhaps it may have been the case when he said something along the lines of "perfect timing" and had that smile, but the first mystery was so banal and there was no conclusion to the "joke" other than "Yay, we found it", that I honestly just took it as a serious attempt at mystery from the writers...
That actually makes it even worse when a made a mystery made up by the protagonist is more interesting that the actual ones...

Edit: Ya, it is obvious that it was a joke from the epilogue portion of the episode. I mentioned I skimmed the last portions of the episode because I was flat-lining from boredom.

The fake mystery hints at Houtarou's feeling for Eru (or something along the line).
It is that important.
 
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Stories about characters, rely on the fact that people are interested in other people. Therein lies the problem.
 
Apr 24, 2012 1:00 PM
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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
For those who complain about the lack of substance of the mysteries - why? It's not like anything really happened so far. One coincidence and one elaborate lie, nothing I would consider a serious attempt to an interesting mystery by the writers. These were just tools to show the personalities of the characters and they succeeded.
Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.


This guy strikes again.

I feel like if I took the first episode as seriously as some of these people appear to I would have dropped 95% of the anime I've ever seen.


Haha, what do you mean by "This guy strikes again"?
 
Apr 24, 2012 1:39 PM

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Rather boring episode. Satoshi reminded me so much of Sunohara. Now I know why. :D I enjoyed Houtarou's second mystery and that mystery about piano club made me laugh. So, this seems to be the happy-go-lucky type of show. Fine with me since Sankarea is shaping into quite serious drama with some comedy aspects.
 
Apr 24, 2012 1:51 PM

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I enjoyed this more than I expected to.
Okay Hyouka, you have me for another episode.
 
Apr 24, 2012 1:54 PM

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From what i have seen, most of people who judged Hyouka boring AND bad are the people who can't stand anime without some action or those who can't stand dialogues and character development based anime. You can look at their fav anime list.
I really hope hyouka could get more interesting
 
Apr 24, 2012 2:30 PM

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Hearing Nakamura Yuuichi and Sakaguchi Daisuke bickering like friends again; instantly thought of Clannad (KyoAni duh...).

I'm linking it so far. Awesome art and music and the mysteries could get pretty interesting too. Eru's purple eyes of curiosity amaze me! O_O

Next week: Mayaka's appearance!
 
Apr 24, 2012 3:15 PM

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First half was like "what the fuck am i watching?". Second one was better and a lot more enjoyable. I don't see why ppl hype the shit out of this tho..

 
Apr 24, 2012 3:26 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
JoshSalas said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
For those who complain about the lack of substance of the mysteries - why? It's not like anything really happened so far. One coincidence and one elaborate lie, nothing I would consider a serious attempt to an interesting mystery by the writers. These were just tools to show the personalities of the characters and they succeeded.
Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.


This guy strikes again.

I feel like if I took the first episode as seriously as some of these people appear to I would have dropped 95% of the anime I've ever seen.


Haha, what do you mean by "This guy strikes again"?


I mean you've said a lot of things I can agree with, haha.
 
Apr 24, 2012 3:42 PM

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This show, so far, is so gorgeous. And I really love the use of classical music (such as in the trailer/Moonlight Sonata). I can't wait to see more n_n
 
Apr 24, 2012 3:48 PM

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LordMorioka said:
I enjoyed this more than I expected to.
Okay Hyouka, you have me for another episode.


It's people like you that make me stop wanting to come here. You should always watch more than one episode of an anime. (Unless the first is ridiculously horrible or not for you)

People who drop anime based on the first episode everytime will never get to see anything, because they'll always have their own dick stuck up their ass.

... Not saying you're like that per-say.. Just saying you should give it more than 1 episode in the first place.

I always give anime I watch at least 3 episodes before I decide to drop - I think it should be a golden rule of anime.
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Apr 24, 2012 5:00 PM

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Vizi_Reality said:
From what i have seen, most of people who judged Hyouka boring AND bad are the people who can't stand anime without some action or those who can't stand dialogues and character development based anime. You can look at their fav anime list.
I really hope hyouka could get more interesting


I think it's more of been there, done that in like 50 (not being literal) other animes.
 
Apr 24, 2012 5:08 PM

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LordMorioka said:
I enjoyed this more than I expected to.
Okay Hyouka, you have me for another episode.


^This..., it was moderately interesting, and only cuz of the girl with the purple eyes. I wont say it has me for a whole episode, prob like 12mins to prove its not complete crap lmao..., else well we always have good ole wikipedia to find out how it ends without the pain of watching it :P
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Apr 24, 2012 5:21 PM

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At first I was getting a lot of Haruhi vibes, but those wore away pretty quickly, but this episode had great animation, and I really hope they can keep this up throughout.

I wonder if the MC is really that anti-social that he would run through hoops just to get Chitanda away from him, or if he was just trying to impress her or make her happy or something. I wonder what the big mystery of this series is going to be though. Anyway looking forward to more.
 
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MEsoJD said:
Vizi_Reality said:
From what i have seen, most of people who judged Hyouka boring AND bad are the people who can't stand anime without some action or those who can't stand dialogues and character development based anime. You can look at their fav anime list.
I really hope hyouka could get more interesting


I think it's more of been there, done that in like 50 (not being literal) other animes.

The thing is, unless a show really does have a very unique premise, the first episode is pretty much always going to feel like it's been done before, since more often than not the first episode just serves to establish the setting and characters anyway.

Besides, something being done before doesn't mean it can't be done better, and if nothing else, the first episode of Hyouka has indicated that we're in for some really nice animation and music.

Though if the show's just not for you then so be it.



Anyway, I liked this first episode quite a bit. The characters seem fun and, as expected from KyoAni, the visuals were great. But it's still too soon to say how good it'll be. I'll definitely be watching it though.
 
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The art is soooooooo nice. <3
 
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JoshSalas said:
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JoshSalas said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
For those who complain about the lack of substance of the mysteries - why? It's not like anything really happened so far. One coincidence and one elaborate lie, nothing I would consider a serious attempt to an interesting mystery by the writers. These were just tools to show the personalities of the characters and they succeeded.
Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.


This guy strikes again.

I feel like if I took the first episode as seriously as some of these people appear to I would have dropped 95% of the anime I've ever seen.


Haha, what do you mean by "This guy strikes again"?


I mean you've said a lot of things I can agree with, haha.


Well, thank you then :)

But really, though I had my beef with the key fancrowd before, now I see they don't have it easy either *gg*
 
Apr 24, 2012 8:03 PM

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A pretty dull episode. But, I'll keep watching and see where this goes.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:06 PM

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Tomoya and Sunohara, lol so epic
 
Apr 24, 2012 8:08 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:

Plus if you need to see some really, really bad "mysteries" go watch Phi Brain and then rejoice over the creativity of Hyouka ^^.


Phi Brain was mystery? Whoa.

I'll stick around until they reveal the main focus of the story, which is "Hyouka" itself. Then, the true plot/mystery should begin.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:29 PM

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Tomoya and Sunohara, lol so epic


Haha. It's like Clannad again. Feels nostalgic.
 
Apr 24, 2012 8:55 PM

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Those eyes, who could say no to that. Guess we'll have to see where this goes.
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:10 PM

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LordMorioka said:
I enjoyed this more than I expected to.
Okay Hyouka, you have me for another episode.


It's people like you that make me stop wanting to come here. You should always watch more than one episode of an anime. (Unless the first is ridiculously horrible or not for you)

People who drop anime based on the first episode everytime will never get to see anything, because they'll always have their own dick stuck up their ass.

... Not saying you're like that per-say.. Just saying you should give it more than 1 episode in the first place.

I always give anime I watch at least 3 episodes before I decide to drop - I think it should be a golden rule of anime.


You may have taken my post too seriously... :P
I was just saying that I enjoyed the episode and I'm excited to see more, which isn't the case with every anime I watch. If the first episode doesn't excite me, I may stick around for more, but I might not - and I make that decision without fear of ruining anyone else's experience.
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:21 PM

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Just asking since I might have been to tired when I watched it but what status quo was he prolonging?
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:21 PM

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I had pretty low expectations coming into this
But I've just been blow away!
The art, the characters, the story! All amazing!
Ohh and those eyes! Beautiful.

I think I'm really going to enjoy this one.
 
Apr 24, 2012 11:33 PM

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MissileSoup said:
Omniknight said:
The second mystery had potential, but they didn't build on what made the secret club so mysterious, other than no one other than the members know about it... WHY IS IT SECRET? WHAT IS THE CODE BEHIND THE RECRUITMENT INFO? WHO IS THE NEW PRESIDENT? The mysterious aspects weren't even touched upon...

Didn't Hotaro make everything up, from the club to the memo? I could be wrong, as I wasn't paying too much attention at the time. It's not as much a mystery as it was a trick to aid his efficiency, or so he thought. Oddly, this was the one part of the episode I liked.

This is right. He made this up because Eru is always interested in mysteries that when she asks, he can't say no (dem eyes).

Although I think you misunderstood his intentions. He did that trick because Eru was about to ask him investigate the mystery surrounding the music room (which is in the far side of the school). Remember his motto? Save energy and do something as fast as he could, so he did that trick so Eru can hooked on that (and forget about the music room mystery) then he sticked that near the faculty office bulletin board which is quite convenient since he forgot about his homework and he had to pass it. Then it was also close to the exit going home.

After he solved all of it. Eru was occupied, forgot about the music classroom mystery which will make him expend more energy because of it's distance and just about right on the exit so he can go home early.

tl;dr He did it to save time and energy and since she can't say no to Eru for some reason (it's the eyes, definitely the eyes).
 
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^This. LMAO, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they did that. I'll be kinda half expecting it come next week.
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