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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- OP - nice. Secret behind the danger of the island, the boy's first time riding the robot with the green bracelet and "Eureka". He became the criminal and everyone's searching for him. The weak girl cares about him, and he took her as the only person to show his robot. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Wonderful OP, this along with Dusk Maiden of Amnesia's are my favorites so far this Spring Season. Anyways, an interesting episode with mecha action. The comedy, action, and drama were mixed in nicely including the mini-naval warfare. This scene sure bought back some nostalgia:  Taken from Wikipedia: The IFOs or Intellligent Flying Objects are the successors to the LFOs from Eureka Seven. They make their debut . Fantastic aerial combat mixed in with the kick-ass music (although not as good as Jormungand's imo). Two other characters are also introduced and may play prominent roles in the future. Here's another flashback of Eureka (most likely): A heartwarming ending to this great episode, better delivered than last time. So glad I picked up this series now. |
Stark700Apr 19, 2012 10:55 PM
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| agreed, cool opening song |
I hope for good romance and victorious childhood friend. |
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| Love the OP And romance moment at the end of the episode conclude this great one. |
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| No better than the first episode. Will continue to watch. |
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| Damn, the OST is already seeming just as good as the first series and that was one of the best things about it. Dark Nirvash is also cool as fuck, can't wait to see more. |
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| I like how Ao is, well, one of those protagonists that don't whine. Instead of mumbling "I can't do it, I can't do it" he says "I can do it, I am doing it". Makes him all the more likable. Oh, and, his mother is Eureka, we all know that. But I'd really like to see some hints of Renton in Ao's flashbacks Oh, and I just noticed that this is going to be 24 episodes? Shame, I was hoping it would go up to 50. ): |
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BRSxIgnitionApr 19, 2012 8:40 PM
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Another good episode; but still doesn't feel like it will be as good as its predecessor but time will tell; another bitter flashback with Eureka which only adds to the bitter thought that after their nice ending they had only hardships; well i know this is still way early since anything could happen but if they went down the bitter route of disappearance due to death then i hope they both died instead of one living without the other. |
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| Hmmm.. So - we have a few new things to go on regarding the timeline of Eureka Seven. I'll go through them in the order they were divulged in the episode. PLEASE NOTE: ALL sections regarding the possibility of Time Travel assume that 1) Political Standpoints: Assuming this as a direct sequel: It seems that while they have re-adopted some names and political standpoints, not everything is like it was in the original earth. It seems that the Iwato/Okinawan political faction is attempting to split from the Japanese - or at least that's what I managed to get from it. This would be Assuming this as a sequel involving time travel: It could be possible if there is time travel involved - if Eureka and Renton came back to before the Nirvash was painted/outfitted/stolen - in a different part of the world. However, this would explain the political standpoints more, considering Japanese political standpoints were never touched on if I remember correctly. POINT: BOTH 2) G-Monsters in the Past?: Assuming this as a direct sequel: They say that they had to rely on survivor's accounts from the 1940's due to lack of photos and technology from the time. If it was a direct sequel - and they simply began counting the years again - they would still have cameras and their technology that they developed in the original. This is much harder to prove that it is direct in any way. Assuming this as a sequel involving time travel: If Eureka and Renton did go back in the past, that would put these events occurring around the time they first time they dug up and began outfitting and using the Nirvash, and technology wasn't as advanced. This assumption also matches up with the fact that the Nirvash isn't painted yet. POINT: TIME-TRAVEL 3) What about G-Monsters?: Assuming this as a direct sequel: G-Monsters do not seem to be the anti-body Coralians from the past of the series, but rather a new enemy. The fact that they want to destroy the Scub Coral as it appears should be enough to back this up, even if it causes a huge explosion to wipe out the surrounding area. They could be a new type of enemy that uses the Scub Coral as an explosive to destroy large areas of land. This would make more sense as a new event - happening after the original - than it would as a rewind/redo scenario involving time-travel. Assuming this as a sequel involving time travel: This wouldn't quite work. G-Monsters were never referenced ANYWHERE in the original anime, not in the past, not in the present, and not at the end. They were never mentioned. So why would they show up if Eureka and Renton went back to the same time the Nirvash was discovered? There were no G-Monsters back then. POINT: DIRECT SEQUEL |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| CONTINUED FROM ABOVE... 4) Appearance of the Nirvash: Assuming this as a direct sequel: It would make sense that the doctor had seen the Nirvash Spec 03 before if this is a direct sequel. It would also make sense for him to recognize the painted spec 03 compared to the original spec 03. It would also make sense that the Nirvash is in it's Spec 03 version, rather than any other, considering that it was its last form before enlightenment. What we don't know,however, is why it is not painted anymore - or why it is back for that matter. Assuming this as a sequel involving time travel: It does not make sense that the doctor would know about the Spec 03 Nirvash in either of its forms if this takes place before the beginning of Eureka 7. Neither form of the Spec 03 had existed at that time, and nobody outside of the people discovering it should have known of its existence. POINT: DIRECT SEQUEL ENDING SCORE: DIRECT SEQUEL IS MORE LIKELY AT THIS POINT. (3 points to 2) Let me know if there is anything else I have missed that may relate to the timeline of the two Eureka Seven anime - OTHER THAN WHAT WAS TOUCHED ON IN THE OTHER TWO THREADS - Thank you! |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Why is this a sequel to Eureka Seven? This is casting a pall on my good memories of a good show especially because for some reason Eureka goes from super-happy-end in ES to something on the far side of depressing in this show. This seems to take place before the coral took over the planet yet it's a sequel? whatev. It has so little in common with its predecessor that they might as well have just done an original series. |
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Acinonyx said: Why is this a sequel to Eureka Seven? This is casting a pall on my good memories of a good show especially because for some reason Eureka goes from super-happy-end in ES to something on the far side of depressing in this show. This seems to take place before the coral took over the planet yet it's a sequel? whatev. It has so little in common with its predecessor that they might as well have just done an original series. And if they had called it something else and made it an original series, you'd be complaining it's a rip-off. Don't lie. Shut up and actually pay attention. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| You guys do know this was officially named a direct sequel many, many months ago right? They really overdo the childhood friend trope in storywriting, so I certainly hope they make it a little more interesting. |
Xrave said: It's strange: 1. they're using battleships with normal missile interception MG's (that white thing that shot at the car) 2. They don't have beam weapons as they did in the original series. Nor guided missiles, nor seeking lasers. 3. Nirvash is in Spec 3 mode, as mentioned before, but had absolutely no weaponry. 4. It is possible that the scab coral is "anchoring" the island, thus why destroying it would destroy the island. 5. There is a chance that everyone is living in another dimension of earth, perhaps deep within the coral's thoughts. 6. Whereas the trapar concentration was enough for entire battlefleets to glide and huge ships such as the Gekkogo to sail on, now it is only usable for cars. Why did they ditch the flying ones? Nirvash does not seem to be affected by any change in concentration of trapar. 7. No skyfish. 8. No reffing or ref-boards. Renton would be sad. If it's not an AU, they'll need a miracle to explain all of this XD It's quite possible it will be explained as we go - Bones is ten times better at story telling than most other producers - especially this team that they have working on this. There are many ways they could explain it - if you think about it. My above argument is that it doesn't have to be ONE way or the OTHER - the end result could be a mix of two or more possibilities. We may have not eve thought about the most plausible thing yet. I'm sure Bones will surprise us in a good way, they wouldn't let their biggest (one of them anyway) anime disappoint so easily. I just think people are so attached to the original that they don't want to even give the sequel a chance to live up to it. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
Bloodhail said: You guys do know this was officially named a direct sequel many, many months ago right? They really overdo the childhood friend trope in storywriting, so I certainly hope they make it a little more interesting. Direct Sequel doesn't mean nothing interesting could have happened between the two. At the moment, the only thing making it a direct sequel is the fact that the main characters in the original gave birth to the main character in AO. That's as direct as you can get. Outside of that, there are too many variables. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
Xrave said: It's strange: 1. they're using battleships with normal missile interception MG's (that white thing that shot at the car) 2. They don't have beam weapons as they did in the original series. Nor guided missiles, nor seeking lasers. 3. Nirvash is in Spec 3 mode, as mentioned before, but had absolutely no weaponry. 4. It is possible that the scab coral is "anchoring" the island, thus why destroying it would destroy the island. 5. There is a chance that everyone is living in another dimension of earth, perhaps deep within the coral's thoughts. 6. Whereas the trapar concentration was enough for entire battlefleets to glide and huge ships such as the Gekkogo to sail on, now it is only usable for cars. Why did they ditch the flying ones? Nirvash does not seem to be affected by any change in concentration of trapar. 7. No skyfish. 8. No reffing or ref-boards. Renton would be sad. If it's not an AU, they'll need a miracle to explain all of this XD implying things not shown yet means they don't exist... Also, perhaps the trapar concentrations are far lower now with less of the Scub Coral around, making only smaller vehicles usable? |
Bloodhail said: Also, perhaps the trapar concentrations are far lower now with less of the Scub Coral around, making only smaller vehicles usable? That would make sense, and lends itself to the direct sequel theory. It seems that the next episode will be the explanation episode, so I think we'll get quite a few of our questions answered then. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| I don't understand the people of Okinawa. What's with their bias against foreigners? The only rationale I can think of is that they hate not being independent. The first episode revealed that the island is both claimed by the United Okinawan Archipelago and China-Japan. If that's the case, how can they judge an inhabitant a native of the island via their hair color? That's like saying someone isn't Japanese despite being born/raised in Japan because one has a long nose. Certainly Ao can be considered an inhabitant; after all, he did live on the island for most of his life. So much for the UNITED Okinawan Archipelago and its people... |
| Solid Episode..... Glad Ao is not a whiny brat like Renton.... 5/5 |
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| Great episode. Very enjoyable to watch! I'm already liking the blue pilot girl, I think it was Fleur? Soundtrack is already amazing. Ending pose of the Nirvash in the OP was nice. ;) |
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| That was a darn good episode. Action, some images from the past that point to this being a sequel, a bit of political intrigue and there was a event he possibility of a romantic triangle forming. I think I'm gonna enjoy this one. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| ^I so look forward to your theory being smashed to dust. |
| Nirvash sure has a delicious HUD. |
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| SHOW... ME.... RENTON... AND.... EUREKA !!!!!!!! DAmn that Ao keeps getting memory fragments about Eureka but i wanna know what happened!! AND I wanna see Eureka&Renton in action T_T .......... why they did put it as sequel if cast is totally new T_T .... i t would suit more alternative setting |
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vaikepois said: SHOW... ME.... RENTON... AND.... EUREKA !!!!!!!! DAmn that Ao keeps getting memory fragments about Eureka but i wanna know what happened!! AND I wanna see Eureka&Renton in action T_T .......... why they did put it as sequel if cast is totally new T_T .... i t would suit more alternative setting Uh probably cause Ao is their SON. Carrying on their legacy. That qualifies as a sequel. |
| Well, so in the old one, both Eureka and Renton are the heroes and their name was written on the moon... Now, Eureka is just like a criminal and she and Ao dyed their hair... where the hell is Renton? I think he disappeared even before Ao was born (that old man said that he pick Eureka) Can't give a 10/10 w/o knowing that |
| seriously where the hell is renton |
WrathSC said: seriously where the hell is renton Possibly dead. |
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| Well I think Im sold on Eureka Seven AO now, that was pretty cool. The action and intensity and the epic the arms not lost, to sticking it in the destroy the Secret? moment was fun. Shocked I didnt even notice the hair until seeing a comparison of a gif from ep 1 to ep 2. Hope it gets domestic blu-ray release. |
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| That was kinda boring, unsurprisingly. |
Bloodhail said: You guys do know this was officially named a direct sequel many, many months ago right? They really overdo the childhood friend trope in storywriting, so I certainly hope they make it a little more interesting. Uhhhhh.....Renton was forever alone. He had no friends before Gekkostate on the original E7....Although dunno if you'd count his grandpa or not. Sooo no idea where you got the idea where they've overused the childhood friend trope..... Also, the Grandpa character on this one.....Reminds me of the scientist from the original o.O...The way he looks.....I'm not sure if the scientist was ever named sooo.....possibility? Would make sense why he knows the original color of the Nirvash....hell knows the Nirvash at all even. |
Ahri said: Bloodhail said: You guys do know this was officially named a direct sequel many, many months ago right? They really overdo the childhood friend trope in storywriting, so I certainly hope they make it a little more interesting. Uhhhhh.....Renton was forever alone. He had no friends before Gekkostate on the original E7....Although dunno if you'd count his grandpa or not. Sooo no idea where you got the idea where they've overused the childhood friend trope..... Also, the Grandpa character on this one.....Reminds me of the scientist from the original o.O...The way he looks.....I'm not sure if the scientist was ever named sooo.....possibility? Would make sense why he knows the original color of the Nirvash....hell knows the Nirvash at all even. He meant generally. The childhoold friend thing is so generic. |
Solkiskey said: Ahri said: Bloodhail said: You guys do know this was officially named a direct sequel many, many months ago right? They really overdo the childhood friend trope in storywriting, so I certainly hope they make it a little more interesting. Uhhhhh.....Renton was forever alone. He had no friends before Gekkostate on the original E7....Although dunno if you'd count his grandpa or not. Sooo no idea where you got the idea where they've overused the childhood friend trope..... Also, the Grandpa character on this one.....Reminds me of the scientist from the original o.O...The way he looks.....I'm not sure if the scientist was ever named sooo.....possibility? Would make sense why he knows the original color of the Nirvash....hell knows the Nirvash at all even. He meant generally. The childhoold friend thing is so generic. Was trying to be cute :). I know what they meant. I just hope it's not the same overused trope though.....IE Childhood friend likes main character but she's Forever Friendzoned since this is one in very few childhood friends i actually like in a series. |
Solkiskey said: He meant generally. The childhoold friend thing is so generic. Has anything really been mentioned to say that they're childhood friends? They aren't just good friends? |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRSxIgnition said: Solkiskey said: He meant generally. The childhoold friend thing is so generic. Has anything really been mentioned to say that they're childhood friends? They aren't just good friends? Did I ever claim they were childhoold friends? No. I only said the childhoold friend thing was generic. |
eureka822 said: Actually, everyone in Okinawa is racially Japanese. Renton and Eureka were not racially Japanese, we never explicitly get told what ethnic group Renton belongs to, but neither of them were Asian. Thus their (hypothetical) son would also not be Asian. Ao was discriminated against as a foreigner even before his hair color changed. Good point. However, it still doesn't completely explain the inhabitants' hostility towards someone who has lived on the island for his entire life. In all respects with the exception of his heritage, Ao is an Okinawan. Ao's grandfather explicitly remarks that Ao is a child of the island. During the car ride scene, Naru's father makes it clear others' perspectives: the island's troubles began with the introduction of Ao's mother, Eureka. I hope the series tackles this discrimination and the question of how much blame one can associate another with because of his or her heritage. |
fdsfgs said: Calling it now - AO is an alternate universe, Scub Bursts are large chunks of Scub Coral "bursting" through into the universe that AO is set in, from the end of Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven. This would explain several discrepancies such as dates, lack of heart on the moon, and the vastly different levels of technology between KSE7 and AO. If this is said case, i just hope they tell us soon. So i'm not half way into the story to hear that trash of an explaination. |
fdsfgs said: Calling it now - AO is an alternate universe, Scub Bursts are large chunks of Scub Coral "bursting" through into the universe that AO is set in, from the end of Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven. This would explain several discrepancies such as dates, lack of heart on the moon, and the vastly different levels of technology between KSE7 and AO. That would explain a lot, but that just adds another theory to what could be possible. I'm sure it will be a mix of the theories, but we'll have to see as we go. BTW: Am I the only one that loves it when the nirvash loses its arm, and Ao is awesome and says "It's not lost! Just pick it up!!" ...? |
BRSxIgnitionApr 20, 2012 10:57 AM
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
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