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Sep 14, 2008 4:35 AM

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Westlo said:
Angel came across as a Ranka fan more than Sheryl fan when she/he started posted here.


Yeah but you should know that the death of Michael was what changed my opinion. Really who would have though after Ranka saw Michael that she would betray. That's how it is.
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angel999 said:
Westlo said:
Angel came across as a Ranka fan more than Sheryl fan when she/he started posted here.


Yeah but you should know that the death of Michael was what changed my opinion. Really who would have though after Ranka saw Michael that she would betray. That's how it is.


Don't you find it funny how death of Michael only made Klan emo, everyone else just didn't care. What's the point in killing him of then if nobody's gonna suffer and have some decent character development?

Also I find it very suspicious how Ranka's song used to be getting trough Vajra and now all of a sudden they refuse to listen to her. There's still gotta be something behind that and I assume it's mostly Grace's fault so I don't feel like I can blame Vajra just yet for everything.
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Tixy said:
angel999 said:
Westlo said:
Angel came across as a Ranka fan more than Sheryl fan when she/he started posted here.


Yeah but you should know that the death of Michael was what changed my opinion. Really who would have though after Ranka saw Michael that she would betray. That's how it is.


Don't you find it funny how death of Michael only made Klan emo, everyone else just didn't care. What's the point in killing him of then if nobody's gonna suffer and have some decent character development?

Also I find it very suspicious how Ranka's song used to be getting trough Vajra and now all of a sudden they refuse to listen to her. There's still gotta be something behind that and I assume it's mostly Grace's fault so I don't feel like I can blame Vajra just yet for everything.


I agree with this but for Klan you should give it some time. There may be a surprise to satisfy you yet if you give yourself patience. Since this is near the end of the series or she may live for Michael till she dies. Personally I will go for patience and see what happens.
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Tixy said:
I was trying to stay away from Macross Frontier thread ever since angel999 became obssessed with this series, but that's it, it can't hold back how LOL I am after reading this thread.

This is not personal but angel999, don't you find yourself too busy to read every single post in this thread. I think you basically scared away any members who had a different opinion from you...


I've noticed how Ranka has more favorites then Sheryl on mal but somehow in each topic I can only see Sherylfags and not one Rankafag so I thought "hell Ranka bashing needs to stop and people should actually start talking about the series for once". I'm glad someone out there agrees with me. Not anything personal from my side as well, I just think that both sides should be able to participate.


Tixy said:

Don't you find it funny how death of Michael only made Klan emo, everyone else just didn't care. What's the point in killing him of then if nobody's gonna suffer and have some decent character development?

Also I find it very suspicious how Ranka's song used to be getting trough Vajra and now all of a sudden they refuse to listen to her. There's still gotta be something behind that and I assume it's mostly Grace's fault so I don't feel like I can blame Vajra just yet for everything.


Tixy, congratulations to saving this thread from someone so emotional.

The lines which Alto uttered in the end...I can only say one thing. If he has to kill Ranka, that he's doing it as a mercy kill, seeing as he sees Vajra as the enemy. His entire reason to be there and fighting was for Ranka, and Ranka alone.

I predict that Alto will end up with Klan if both dies. They both have too much in common if things go this way. Sheryl would soon die due to an incurable infection, Ranka may or may not be killed, and if both dies, I salute the makers to think of an original (albeit morbid) way to escape from the triangle.

New Macross, new millennium, new way of doing things. Bandai/BigWest, I salute you two.
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Westlo said:
Angel came across as a Ranka fan more than Sheryl fan when she/he started posted here.



i was a ranka fan when i started too....:P


then she ticked me off
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(sigh) I indeed feel stupid that I still respond to a troll. That is the only proof that I am "immature".

angel999 said:

At this stage Vajra have expanded their chance and self-defense is the mother of all BS as a excuse! It's like oh he hit me....I have to kill him in self-defense...euh are you stupid Wakka9ca? You think the humans will side with something that kills them even is it justifies...tsk,tsk calling me immature.


It's more like "he is trying to cut open my entrails to get the fold quartz so I have to kill thme before they kill me" ---> that is ENOUGH justification. Also, just because two races were enemies before doesn't mean they will be forever. If you are going for the "eye for an eye", then every should be killed by everyone because at some point in history, their people were enemies...

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Maybe if had a better memory you would know that sending the home world is the best option sine Frontier is dying out cause of the island damage. Man are you a FAG Wakka9ca? Cause your thinking is like a 5 year old...full of holes of thoughts that are incomplete. The island damage is beyond recovery so they have little choice now.


That may be the best solution right now but recall that what forced them through all this war and destruction was that they wanted to exploit the Vajra. In a sense, the fact that all the innocent civilians died did not bother the human government even a bit. Blame Leon if you want but we don't have sufficient reason to blame the Vajra YET (so it means you may be right depending on what happens next). Also recall they mentionned if they should ABANDON the colonization mission and return to Earth and leave the Vajras alone. There are other solutions just to let you know.

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Destroy the Vajras because of the way they act? Don't be fool they want to exterminate us then they have to die. The rest are just opinions of mine. Killing the Vajras is a honor to Michael and I uphold this till the END.


I don't want to think as "us vs. them" until I fully understand "us" and "them", which currently as of episode 23, is only one-sided. You are getting way too carried over.

If this goes on, I'm afraid either you or me are going to get some trouble from the forums admins....So this is where it stops (for real this time...I am too busy right now...just wasted 10 minutes writing this)
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM

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wakka9ca said:
(sigh) I indeed feel stupid that I still respond to a troll. That is the only proof that I am "immature".

angel999 said:

At this stage Vajra have expanded their chance and self-defense is the mother of all BS as a excuse! It's like oh he hit me....I have to kill him in self-defense...euh are you stupid Wakka9ca? You think the humans will side with something that kills them even is it justifies...tsk,tsk calling me immature.


It's more like "he is trying to cut open my entrails to get the fold quartz so I have to kill thme before they kill me" ---> that is ENOUGH justification. Also, just because two races were enemies before doesn't mean they will be forever. If you are going for the "eye for an eye", then every should be killed by everyone because at some point in history, their people were enemies...

angel999 said:

Maybe if had a better memory you would know that sending the home world is the best option sine Frontier is dying out cause of the island damage. Man are you a FAG Wakka9ca? Cause your thinking is like a 5 year old...full of holes of thoughts that are incomplete. The island damage is beyond recovery so they have little choice now.


That may be the best solution right now but recall that what forced them through all this war and destruction was that they wanted to exploit the Vajra. In a sense, the fact that all the innocent civilians died did not bother the human government even a bit. Blame Leon if you want but we don't have sufficient reason to blame the Vajra YET (so it means you may be right depending on what happens next). Also recall they mentionned if they should ABANDON the colonization mission and return to Earth and leave the Vajras alone. There are other solutions just to let you know.

angell999 said:

Destroy the Vajras because of the way they act? Don't be fool they want to exterminate us then they have to die. The rest are just opinions of mine. Killing the Vajras is a honor to Michael and I uphold this till the END.


I don't want to think as "us vs. them" until I fully understand "us" and "them", which currently as of episode 23, is only one-sided. You are getting way too carried over.

If this goes on, I'm afraid either you or me are going to get some trouble from the forums admins....So this is where it stops (for real this time...I am too busy right now...just wasted 10 minutes writing this)


I WILL BE A MAN A ACCEPT THOSE COMMENTS. TRUCE!

One more thing, let us see if I am right on that part you said depending what happens. WE SHALL SEE.

You are not immature for responding. You are just stating your thinking. While it may be a waste of your time to me they are interesting so it is not wasting your time.

IN REALITY my religion tells to me be nice and many things that are insults I don't mean unless I say I mean it.

That's all MATA NE.
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kaminakun said:
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"...it probably hurts as well to overhear Alto say that everything he did (joining the SMS and fighting) was for Ranka and that he would kill Ranka if she were used as a tool of the Vajra (which Kuran thinks is a sign of his love) - things just can’t go right for her" (Sheryl in this case).

I guess that's why Sheryl cried at the end...damn Alto, u better shoot down Ranka and live your life out with Sheryl or I'll tear you apart

*getting more emotional here*
if the director is making ANOTHER Misa x Hikaru instead of Minmei x Hikaru, I swear I'll discard all the Macross series once and for all...god bless you Sheryl


Hum, no offense but actually Misa = Sheryl (strong women with harsh character, symbolizing maturity and reason) and Minmei = Ranka (cute singer girls with moderately good character, symbolizing passion and affection), so what you are saying is totally wrong, if Kawamori makes Alto and Ranka end up together, it's like a good ending of Macross, if Minmei finished with Hikaru and not the opposite. Unless you can't see a character archetype when you see one of course.

Either way, Sheryl will die in the last episode, and this episode (the 23) strongly suggested that Alto loves Ranka, which is a good thing I think, BUT as the script writers put up a lot of effort in creating a lot of wrong doors and illusions since the beginning, maybe the ending will be totally different. Still this would be the most logical.

Appart from that, it was a very good episode, far better than the 22, we clearly gained something thanks to the slower pace and deeper emphasis on the characters.

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I am still a Ranka fan AND Sheryl fan. I never felt that Ranka betrayed anyone, afterall she is going to where the Vajra is to stop all the fighting.

I dont hate Alto either (actually I x3 him lol) I kinda understand what he is doing, he is like going with the flow not understanding his own actions.

Also, i do hope they all end as... er awesome people (haa forgot my words in my other pants)...x3
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Jacut said:
kaminakun said:
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"...it probably hurts as well to overhear Alto say that everything he did (joining the SMS and fighting) was for Ranka and that he would kill Ranka if she were used as a tool of the Vajra (which Kuran thinks is a sign of his love) - things just can’t go right for her" (Sheryl in this case).

I guess that's why Sheryl cried at the end...damn Alto, u better shoot down Ranka and live your life out with Sheryl or I'll tear you apart

*getting more emotional here*
if the director is making ANOTHER Misa x Hikaru instead of Minmei x Hikaru, I swear I'll discard all the Macross series once and for all...god bless you Sheryl


Hum, no offense but actually Misa = Sheryl (strong women with harsh character, symbolizing maturity and reason) and Minmei = Ranka (cute singer girls with moderately good character, symbolizing passion and affection), so what you are saying is totally wrong, if Kawamori makes Alto and Ranka end up together, it's like a good ending of Macross, if Minmei finished with Hikaru and not the opposite. Unless you can't see a character archetype when you see one of course.

Either way, Sheryl will die in the last episode, and this episode (the 23) strongly suggested that Alto loves Ranka, which is a good thing I think, BUT as the script writers put up a lot of effort in creating a lot of wrong doors and illusions since the beginning, maybe the ending will be totally different. Still this would be the most logical.

Appart from that, it was a very good episode, far better than the 22, we clearly gained something thanks to the slower pace and deeper emphasis on the characters.


I have analyzed the possibility of the ENDING ALTO X KLAN. It is possible because in our society sometimes during WW2 (this is just a example) the friend of the guy who has a girlfriend or wife gets to be told that if anything happens to him then he should look after wife or girlfriend.

So in the end Alto might look after Klan should he lose both Ranka and Sheryl. Remember I mentioned Ranka's body might break or mutate beyond anything we know but that is yet to be seen in #24.
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Jacut said:
kaminakun said:
taken from random curiosity

"...it probably hurts as well to overhear Alto say that everything he did (joining the SMS and fighting) was for Ranka and that he would kill Ranka if she were used as a tool of the Vajra (which Kuran thinks is a sign of his love) - things just can’t go right for her" (Sheryl in this case).

I guess that's why Sheryl cried at the end...damn Alto, u better shoot down Ranka and live your life out with Sheryl or I'll tear you apart

*getting more emotional here*
if the director is making ANOTHER Misa x Hikaru instead of Minmei x Hikaru, I swear I'll discard all the Macross series once and for all...god bless you Sheryl


Hum, no offense but actually Misa = Sheryl (strong women with harsh character, symbolizing maturity and reason) and Minmei = Ranka (cute singer girls with moderately good character, symbolizing passion and affection), so what you are saying is totally wrong, if Kawamori makes Alto and Ranka end up together, it's like a good ending of Macross, if Minmei finished with Hikaru and not the opposite. Unless you can't see a character archetype when you see one of course.

Either way, Sheryl will die in the last episode, and this episode (the 23) strongly suggested that Alto loves Ranka, which is a good thing I think, BUT as the script writers put up a lot of effort in creating a lot of wrong doors and illusions since the beginning, maybe the ending will be totally different. Still this would be the most logical.

Appart from that, it was a very good episode, far better than the 22, we clearly gained something thanks to the slower pace and deeper emphasis on the characters.


alto my have some love for ranka...but i think he likes frontier better than either girls.
plus, when ozma asked him "where his wings take him" alto chose to stay with Sheryl and the people (OMG HE ACTUALLY MADE A CHOICE!), meaning that he must have loved sheryl (and frontier and humans) more than ranka.
also in ep 22, he promised to stay by Sheryl's side until the end....never made any comments close to this to ranka.
i dont think either girls have a big chance of living....plus, alto still has his father to reconcile with, which seems more important than the triangle.
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What a mess. At this stage I have all but lost all hope for a satisfying conclusion in just 2 eps. They had 25 bloody episodes to build up Alto into an amicable lead. Instead he's made NO progress as a character other than his piloting skills!

I hope Sheryl meets a grim end, and Ranka dies spectacularly. Either way I don't see Alto mixing it up with either of the girls. Actually come to think of it, that would be a rather refreshing ending...

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Otakuman said:

I hope Sheryl meets a grim end, and Ranka dies spectacularly. Either way I don't see Alto mixing it up with either of the girls. Actually come to think of it, that would be a rather refreshing ending...


now that'd be a slap in the face ending!
a wake up call for us who likes to predict the future episodes and how they end.



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The scene w/ Alto saying that he'd kill Ranka has dual meaning

the superficial meaning that all you Ranka-haters are taking as the true meaning, is that Alto loves Frontier more than Ranka... when all it is just his duty as a soldier.

More than anything, Alto doesn't want Ranka to live with the torture of killing everyone... saving her from pain. You can't convince me otherwise... this is what i'm interpreting and what makes me happy =)

Also, the queen issue is basically resolved when Leon implied that Ranka has the same virus as Sheryl, however with Sheryl, the virus infected her brain dealing a fatal blow... while it infected Ranka's intestine, where it's supposed to reside, as such, it gave her the fold wave ability. She's no queen, she's just the victim of a virus that, for once, went right.

Also, when will people realize that Sheryl is a poorly developed, stuck-up, character that's holding Alto back? Not to mention, early on, Alto and Sheryl had a sour relationship, while Alto and Ranka were fast friends... just from that, a relationship btw Alto and Ranka is much more believable.
Sheryl will end up the tragic maiden for this series and the ultimate victim of these chain of events.
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Also, when will people realize that Sheryl is a poorly developed, stuck-up, character that's holding Alto back?


lol!?

Not to mention, early on, Alto and Sheryl had a sour relationship, while Alto and Ranka were fast friends... just from that, a relationship btw Alto and Ranka is much more believable.


You really think this matters? Or have you ignored the hundreds of romance anime/manga where the couple disliked each other from the start?
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Westlo said:
Tekky99 said:
Also, when will people realize that Sheryl is a poorly developed, stuck-up, character that's holding Alto back?


lol!?

Not to mention, early on, Alto and Sheryl had a sour relationship, while Alto and Ranka were fast friends... just from that, a relationship btw Alto and Ranka is much more believable.


You really think this matters? Or have you ignored the hundreds of romance anime/manga where the couple disliked each other from the start?


I'm not talking about in anime/manga, i'm talking about real life.

If i had to make a decision btw someone i'm good friends and enjoy spending time with, and some whom I initially disliked but later grew on? I'd pick the good friend because the romance would have a better chance at succeeding.

there's a reason why psychologists say that the first impression can affect your view on someone for the rest of your life.
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Tekky99 said:
Westlo said:
Tekky99 said:
Also, when will people realize that Sheryl is a poorly developed, stuck-up, character that's holding Alto back?


lol!?

Not to mention, early on, Alto and Sheryl had a sour relationship, while Alto and Ranka were fast friends... just from that, a relationship btw Alto and Ranka is much more believable.


You really think this matters? Or have you ignored the hundreds of romance anime/manga where the couple disliked each other from the start?


I'm not talking about in anime/manga, i'm talking about real life.

If i had to make a decision btw someone i'm good friends and enjoy spending time with, and some whom I initially disliked but later grew on? I'd pick the good friend because the romance would have a better chance at succeeding.

there's a reason why psychologists say that the first impression can affect your view on someone for the rest of your life.


I agreed with you on the last part but only on the fact that is why Alto joined the SMS and why he wants to protect. Sheryl in the beginning was a girl he though he could never reach but once he did I am sure he felt happy. Sure many many episodes and even now it is plaguing him to choose.

I think if THE CHOICE cannot not be made then he will lose both because I doubt both may survive, however I still believe in miracle.
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i think Alto x Ranka is imminent...
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i think Alto x Ranka is imminent...
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onoz!



and I say Alto x Kuran is more imminent.


...what?
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Tekky99 said:
I'm not talking about in anime/manga, i'm talking about real life.

If i had to make a decision btw someone i'm good friends and enjoy spending time with, and some whom I initially disliked but later grew on? I'd pick the good friend because the romance would have a better chance at succeeding.

there's a reason why psychologists say that the first impression can affect your view on someone for the rest of your life.


Eh some of my best irl friends over my 25 years has been people I couldn't stand at first, whatever happened to don't judge a book by its cover :p

Also this is anime not real life and I you have to take into account that Alto is a tsundere as well.
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Westlo said:
Tekky99 said:
I'm not talking about in anime/manga, i'm talking about real life.

If i had to make a decision btw someone i'm good friends and enjoy spending time with, and some whom I initially disliked but later grew on? I'd pick the good friend because the romance would have a better chance at succeeding.

there's a reason why psychologists say that the first impression can affect your view on someone for the rest of your life.


Eh some of my best irl friends over my 25 years has been people I couldn't stand at first, whatever happened to don't judge a book by its cover :p

Also this is anime not real life and I you have to take into account that Alto is a tsundere as well.


I just want to say that although anime is not real life, IT DOES use many elements of reality, especially that of emotions. So anime may be real life in a imaginative state.
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alto my have some love for ranka...but i think he likes frontier better than either girls.
plus, when ozma asked him "where his wings take him" alto chose to stay with Sheryl and the people (OMG HE ACTUALLY MADE A CHOICE!), meaning that he must have loved sheryl (and frontier and humans) more than ranka.
also in ep 22, he promised to stay by Sheryl's side until the end....never made any comments close to this to ranka.


The only reason he decided to stay by Sheryl´s side was not love, but because she told him that she was going to die soon. You can easily see that he is confused after Ranka and the Macross leaves, he can´t even answer him when Ozma ask that question.

Westlo said:
You really think this matters? Or have you ignored the hundreds of romance anime/manga where the couple disliked each other from the start?


A big big difference there. Those Anime and Manga ONLY resolve around romance while MF is concentrating more around the fight with the Vajra.

It have also already been confirmed that Alto love Ranka, both Klan AND Sheryl says that.

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I agreed with you on the last part but only on the fact that is why Alto joined the SMS and why he wants to protect. Sheryl in the beginning was a girl he though he could never reach but once he did I am sure he felt happy. Sure many many episodes and even now it is plaguing him to choose.


Yeah, the reason he actually joined SMS in the first place was because he wanted to protect Ranka from the Vajra.

And under his last test he went crazy when the Vajra defolded and he remembered what Ozma had said what the Vajra had done against Ranka.

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I think if THE CHOICE cannot not be made then he will lose both because I doubt both may survive, however I still believe in miracle.


I think he have already made his choice, he did say that in the worst case he will kill Ranka and that means that he will try to save her first and then kill her if he fail to save her from the pain of being used by the Vajra to kill the people on Frontier.


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I fell like I'm constantly talking to people who have never seen a triangle before, ffs you can love more than one person at the same time. For most decent triangles it was never a case of who the protagonist loved, it's a case of who they love MORE.

Also I lol'd at the this is about the Varja more than romance comment considering how the majority of the focus of this show is on the romance.
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Wow, im kinda lost with the whole project going wrong with the vajra part...
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most people are for sherylXalto pairing but i am more for rankaXalto. glad to hear that alto loves ranka more than sheryl! go ranka!!! i have faith that you are not some baddie that destroys people!

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Wow, have no idea how this is going to turn out now.
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I think Alto won't end up with anyone now :(


...Klan


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Brera ;____;

At least we know what Ranka is now. And Grace really upsets me. >__> A lot.

My dislike of Alto-hime has lessened. Sightly. He seems less idiotic now and a bit more sure of his feelings.
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I am still a Ranka fan AND Sheryl fan. I never felt that Ranka betrayed anyone, afterall she is going to where the Vajra is to stop all the fighting.
Yeah, I don't get the hate at all.

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I just want to say how cool/resolved/grown-up Alto looks like in the next ep preview
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things are about to get very epic...


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Hahahaha ranka got betrayed by the varjra she is trying to save,serve you right ranka lee.
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if alto choses ranka at the end, im giving this a 1........ not really, but i would be REALLY pissed
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o0 drunk much?
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<3 seems like a lot of death's will be shown in the following episodes.
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^ Don't say that! I'm still not over Michael's!

Alto ... just when I was thinking 'So he finally chose Sheryl huh?', next moment I'm like 'WHAT? He's still in for Ranka?'
Goddammit.

I don't like Ranka now. Just for one stupid Vajra really.
PLUS OMFG SHE'S BRERA'S SISTER WHAT!? And I thought they were the best couple in the show. Eurgh.

The last couple episodes were disappointing.

DIE GRACE.
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Woo, first things first...
I got so captured by this show that I kinda forgot to update from time to time, haha.
Second, I am really thinking to write a review to this great anime.
And third, great episode. From what I see, he has partially chose Ranka, which kinda disappoints me, even though i guessed it from some time and saw it coming. And man, Sheryl's life is very tragic. Firstly she learns that she doesn't have much time more to live, then she is quite literally declared dead from the music world (meh, the real world) then with Alto...
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Ranka's and Brera's relationship just earned my vote for most frustrating red herring ever. Of course, I should have seen it coming from Ranka's rather prophetic "You're just like a big brother!" I'm not too happy about Alto not completely settling with Sheryl either. Oy, and the previous 4 episodes were so great too.
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ITS OFFICIAL!!! RANKA IS THE STUPIDEST GIRL EVER!!! -____-
SHE BETRAYED EVERYONE FOR HER STUPID ALIEN PET!!!!!
IM TIRED OF HER SCREAMING!!!! SHES SO ANNOYING!!! -____-

And.... at the end.. Did Sheryl just lose??
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I didn’t know Alto can cook!
I hate Alto x Sheryl moments in this episode!
Dec 1, 2011 10:26 AM

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Alto loves ranka?!?!?!?! But but....what?!!! Then now he's with sheryl out of pity?!!! this crossed my mind: that sheryl will die, rank comes back safely and alto and rank happily ever after. but i just cant really accept it..!
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blue-y said:
Alto loves ranka?!?!?!?! But but....what?!!! Then now he's with sheryl out of pity?!!! this crossed my mind: that sheryl will die, rank comes back safely and alto and rank happily ever after. but i just cant really accept it..!


Yeah that's the ending resold i said could happen in my post in the previous episode but now after hearing how Vajras work i kind of got hope that Sheryl could at least live even if it isn't with Alto. I guess is better to lose a boy than your life, although she might even get the boy if Ranka dies.
The Vajras are basically like one being, every single one of them is part of a single consciousness threw that nerve network and Sheryl's disease is basically that nerve network infecting a human brain. That's why her songs can reach them also and can reach them even better when she doesn't take the pills that suppress the disease.
So i figured that if they really kill all the Vajras then maybe Shery's decease could disappear because when the network dies the biological infection in her brain that tries to create a network in her brain and become part of the network will stop trying since the network is dead and has nothing to communicate with.
I wonder though if that means having to kill Ranka too since Ranka seem to be kind of part of the network. Basically she's the only human with a full operational network in her brain that manages to stay alive because her mother had the infection and someway the child ended being born as kind of a natural part of the network.
So there is a chance that Ranka dies and Sheryl gets saved.

As about the rooftop talk. Yeah it seems in the end the main guy has Ranka more in his heart and Sheryl kind of suspected it but now hearing him she got more certain of that but still since she knows she's in her last she hopes he will stay with her a little longer just so she can have a few last sweet memories before she dies. Her words there was like saying "Just be patient with me a little longer, just stay with me a little longer, i will die soon you don't have to wait long". Kind of sad for Sheryl really.
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I've never seen a duller love triangle than this... Please let the final showdown between humans and aliens begin so it can save this series...
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I can already see how the ending is going turn out. =p
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Oh come on, don't jump on the Ranka x Alto train now. I hope the love Alto holds for Ranka is not the romantic one or at least is not as strong as his love for Sheryl. If he gets one, it should definitely be Sheryl. And I still hope it comes true with a way to keep her alive.
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Here we go, the finale is about to happen. I hope they play it completely over the top and cheesy, because that's exactly what this show has been so far.
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Time for the epic showdown between humans and Vajras. Like again, I am still suspecting of a sentient lifeform controlling the Vajras...though it seems like not anymore (doesn't this reminds me of MJP?). The Vajras are just brainless beasts that destroy in their paths, and the humans really don't have a choice but to eliminate them.
Generally speaking, this episode did not place enough emphasis and details on Sheryl's past in relation to the entire Frontier backstory. While it is cool to see the SMS back, I'd really desire, in some ways, for not the triangle to be resolved. Fans flaming one thing, but Macross F to me is an anime more about human's ambitions and destruction, not really much a bout conflict over romance.
Now it's time for Kawamori to show what he really is, the creator of the Macross series. Cliches aside, an end to Frontier is close by. 4/5.
"If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria
Just kidding.

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Alto must be crazy, picking Ranka over Sheryl.
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Did Alto and Sheryl just squat Ozma and Ranka's house haha. The way she held the sticks indicated that she cut her finger, nice detail.

Going out to Ai-kun without attaching yourself to the ship was a mistake

Medical report titled 'Shouji Kawamori"

How does Alto believe that made up nonsense about Ranka as a weapon against humanity((

I hope Alto noticed Sheryl on the roof lol

Why not make a fold only with military ships? It'd make the civilians endangered though.

What did Sheryl "pray for" at the end? Surviving a bit longer or what?
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I liked the little nod to Kakizaki from Do You Remember Love when Alto mentioned the "Valkyrie jinx"
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