| So after AGE completely bombing they still plan to make movie out of it? Wow. Bandai seriously hates money. They should make third season of SEED instead! Fans would cry on the internet as they did with Destiny but still DVD/BD's would sell like crazy. |
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McRib said: SageShinigami said: Gundam AGE has...so much of this already. In any case, like someone else said, have you SEEN a post-depression works from Tomino at all? You can't have. Overman King Gainer is a trip through super super happy land. I'm ready for Gundam: The Origin either way though. Also hopefully Unicorn's performance inspires them to do Gundam Sentinel. Just sayin'. I digress, I have only watched Turn A which I thought was absolutely fantastic and a great conclusion to the franchise. I've seen every other Gundam and I'm planning on watching Ideon next so I've really only been exposed to his depressed works. I'm actually scared to watch Brain Powerd or King Gainer just because of how bizarre and awful people claim they are. I guess I should probably go watch one of those and be shocked by it. Regardless, even if Tomino isn't killing them all, he's still doing his other stuff. Every show has his warped view of comedy and terrible idea of feminism along with a slew of unlikable characters. King Gainer has the best opening ever. The story is a clusterfuck though. Piss poor pacing. Think Zeta but without the ability to logically assume why they went from point A to point B offscreen. |
Enjolras1830 said: the only nion UC gundam that did well in Japan was seed that was cuase its a remake in story terms of 0079 X Failed w Failed G almost killed not only the Franchise but along with DBGT almost killed the Industry You got any numbers from reliable sources to back your claim? Though I know Kira Yamato still tops many charts' top 10 :) And what bout 00? |
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Roloko said: Looks like someone just jumped on the hate wagon and didn't actually watch the fucking show. xD I actually did watch the show, for a while. I just dropped it. You need to watch your language, young lady. I found that terribly offensive. |
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Hias said: Roloko said: Looks like someone just jumped on the hate wagon and didn't actually watch the fucking show. xD I actually did watch the show, for a while. I just dropped it. You need to watch your language, young lady. I found that terribly offensive. Well I recommend at least watching this arc which I think it will end here this week or next and if you still hate it then drop it for good. Trust me it gets better at least in my eyes it did. The Fairdain arc was probably what turned people who actually gave it a shot away cause it was lame and even I admit kinda boring and so were the battles when they were in the colony. No where near as boring as 0079 though its one big huge snore fest trying to force myself to complete it. I have little hope of The Origin being any good. xP KillerMan91 said: So after AGE completely bombing they still plan to make movie out of it? Wow. Bandai seriously hates money. They should make third season of SEED instead! Fans would cry on the internet as they did with Destiny but still DVD/BD's would sell like crazy. Actually I would be happy if they finally released the SEED movie so they can prove to us its not a pipe dream after all. Oh and completely remake Destiny after they get through with SEED remaster. They are either going to make a movie trilogy of AGE or an sequel. Thinking now I don't mind either as long as they are released subbed on BR so I can eventually buy it. Don't worry Sunrise is not wasting money cause there are people who are faithful to the fanbase buy whatever Gundam comes out regardless of how the majority hates the series. |
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| Well have to wait until 3rd gen to decide whether AGE was worth it or not. So far terribly disappointed with the first gen. The second gen started off okayish then fell into the trap of emo and douche character development... Not to mention the supa-pairotto business. |
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Roloko said: No where near as boring as 0079 though its one big huge snore fest trying to force myself to complete it. I have little hope of The Origin being any good. xP I'm trying to attribute that to the fact that series of that era in general just aren't terribly exciting, and am believing The Origin will be several times better. |
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Roloko said: Well I recommend at least watching this arc which I think it will end here this week or next and if you still hate it then drop it for good. Trust me it gets better at least in my eyes it did. The Fairdain arc was probably what turned people who actually gave it a shot away cause it was lame and even I admit kinda boring and so were the battles when they were in the colony. No where near as boring as 0079 though its one big huge snore fest trying to force myself to complete it. I have little hope of The Origin being any good. xP I dropped it, but I wouldn't hesitate to try it again, at least. I just thought the first arc was terribly underwhelming, and I was in no mood to follow this thing weekly, so I cut my losses and just moved on. I've seen just about everything Gundam aside from a few small side stuff, so I might as well finish AGE as well when it's done. lol, I'm the total opposite regarding 0079; I think it's still great despite that it may not have aged very well. But I'm used to watching older material, so others may not share the same sentiments. I'm very much looking forward to 'The Origin'. Looking back, my previous post was a bit silly, I'll try to refrain from that behavior in the future. But I won't take back that AGE didn't do much for me, and the designs were a part of it, somewhat. But it deserves a second chance. |
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SageShinigami said: Roloko said: No where near as boring as 0079 though its one big huge snore fest trying to force myself to complete it. I have little hope of The Origin being any good. xP I'm trying to attribute that to the fact that series of that era in general just aren't terribly exciting, and am believing The Origin will be several times better. I actually found Zeta enjoying. Even though War in the Pocket was kinda boring it was an nice OVA and Bernie is a bro. <3 Also I can't get into the characters in 0079 even though I found them better in Zeta. Hopefully The Origin will fix the flaws that I didn't like in the original series with the slow pacing, boring battles, uninteresting characters, etc.... The art is decent for an 1979 series. Hias said: I dropped it, but I wouldn't hesitate to try it again, at least. I just thought the first arc was terribly underwhelming, and I was in no mood to follow this thing weekly, so I cut my losses and just moved on. I've seen just about everything Gundam aside from a few small side stuff, so I might as well finish AGE as well when it's done. lol, I'm the total opposite regarding 0079; I think it's still great despite that it may not have aged very well. But I'm used to watching older material, so others may not share the same sentiments. I'm very much looking forward to 'The Origin'. Looking back, my previous post was a bit silly, I'll try to refrain from that behavior in the future. But I won't take back that AGE didn't do much for me, and the designs were a part of it, somewhat. But it deserves a second chance. Well after it ends give it another go it does deserve a second chance its not that bad after the whole Fairdain ordeal. Also I get a little too defensive sometimes when it comes to this series or any of my favorites. xP |
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| Long Story Short: Gundam AGE SUCKS whilst Gundam Unicorn DOESN'T SUCK. Bancolding$ need to stop with the circle-jerking and be a bit more serious with their franchises. The kids don't know space colonies and wars? Tell a different story that kids can understand and leave the complicated issues to the grown-ups where they belong. |
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| Considering Gundam Unicorn's success, I just hope Sunrise/Bandai will do more anime adaptations of Gundam stories based off of novels/manga that have been completed. It would be awesome if they could do Char's Deleted Affair into an anime series, it has a multi-demographic appeal, it has all the great intrigue of the Universal Century that older fans can appreciate and a coming of age story of Haman Karn who takes up the role as a primary character, starting out as an adorable teen and developing to a gorgeous young woman that I believe younger fans would like. I am looking forward to The Origin, considering it will give a more detailed story of the One Year War and flesh out Char Aznable's character by showing his backstory. |
| I find it sad that because they can ride on the success of Unicorn, that they won't learn a lesson from having made AGE. |
| I tried watching AGE but I just couldn't get into it. Unicorn is far better. |
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angelslayerX said: ...that kids today are unfamiliar with wars and space colonies. eh, what? Childs todays are unfamiliar with war? With call of duty and all those wargames that fly around? Of course they are unfamiliar with war games. Because they play RPG... this is common knowledge. |
| Why am I not surprised. :/ |
| I actually really enjoy Gundam Age so I have no idea what the hell is going on here. Gundam Unicorn is pretty good too, but its nothing new. Just another angsty teenage boy who pisses me off to no end. I do like the animation style of Unicorn a lot more than Age though. EDIT: Additionally, what the hell is all this love for shitty characters who act like brats the entire series? This is nothing new and seriously got old after the first 3 times it was used. I'm mainly referring to all this hate for Flit who actually WANTED to be a mobile suit pilot. |
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| gundam is that girl who's been dating the same guy for years. now she wants to meet someone new, only to realize that she's really not that appealing to most others, be it her bad tendency to glorify colorful robots, her boring fixation with space colonies, or her incessant shouting in cockpits, gundam is really not that successful with putting herself out there. and after a series of bad dates and lonely nights sobbing at pizza buffets, she looks back at her time with that guy she dated for years and thinks, 'why the hell did i ever leave him? everything was fine, and i just threw that away for the prospect of meeting a guy who'd throw more money at me. i suck.' |
| Well I'm not surprise, most Gundam loyal followers aren't pre-teen and mostly 18 plus. They somewhat miscalculated about creating Gundam Age and how it will attract new viewers. I guess they are wrong, you released Age before GUndam 00 and you expect a good turn out? |
notsureifsrs said: Age isn't bad at all indeed it isnt |
| This is a rather sad news, the sustainability of the Gundam franchise depends on attracting younger and newer fans so I applaud the decision for the creation of AGE. The producers in my opinion are correct in a way when they said the two Gundam shows they are airing serves two different purpose and audience, Gundam AGE for younger audience and UC for older fans. What really hit me though is the fact that the younger generation didn't know about war and space colonies so much that they can't related or makes sense to what AGE are portraying. This is a bad sign, I think the producers have to think of more ways to stimulate interest and viewership among the younger generation because huge franchises such as the Macross and Gundam are all about humanity's migration to space, this franchises will all die without support from younger generation. |
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Annoiato said: gundam is that girl who's been dating the same guy for years. now she wants to meet someone new, only to realize that she's really not that appealing to most others, be it her bad tendency to glorify colorful robots, her boring fixation with space colonies, or her incessant shouting in cockpits, gundam is really not that successful with putting herself out there. and after a series of bad dates and lonely nights sobbing at pizza buffets, she looks back at her time with that guy she dated for years and thinks, 'why the hell did i ever leave him? everything was fine, and i just threw that away for the prospect of meeting a guy who'd throw more money at me. i suck.' It's funny because it's true. |
| Not surprised at all since AGE sucks big time. But they deserve this failure. They had it coming. |
| Age I did not like at all. I loved seed, wing, 00, original Zeta, ZZ, |
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Annoiato said: gundam is that girl who's been dating the same guy for years. now she wants to meet someone new, only to realize that she's really not that appealing to most others, be it her bad tendency to glorify colorful robots, her boring fixation with space colonies, or her incessant shouting in cockpits, gundam is really not that successful with putting herself out there. and after a series of bad dates and lonely nights sobbing at pizza buffets, she looks back at her time with that guy she dated for years and thinks, 'why the hell did i ever leave him? everything was fine, and i just threw that away for the prospect of meeting a guy who'd throw more money at me. i suck.' Holy fucking shit...5 star post. |
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Ghostalker said: This is a rather sad news, the sustainability of the Gundam franchise depends on attracting younger and newer fans so I applaud the decision for the creation of AGE. I honestly don't think they didn't need to make one "specifically" for the young demographic. Let's just remember what age did you actually watch your "first" gundam. I knew gundam when I was in 5th grade, I finally watched gundam (Wing) at 7th grade, and they didn't make Wing for kids, but kids my age loved it anyway. A proper series of "Gundam Builder" is more than enough to attract kids and raise plamo sales. |
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| Personally I would like an older cast closer to 00, however it is still too bad that AGE was a failure. |
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Suzune-chan said: Personally I would like an older cast closer to 00, however it is still too bad that AGE was a failure. It probably would have done way better if the art looked like previous Gundam series, but still kept the characters personalities and story the same with 3 generations and such. I just hope they let it finish its run cause I hate having an incomplete story. >_> As for that film project if the series closes then it will probably be a film trilogy where they just make however many episodes AGE will have into 3 movies. |
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| AGE is tolerant to me...it is easy to follow, but character rapport is a problem on this show. Also, trying to make you sad. Okay, not really. It can make you sad. Kids don't understand wars and space colonies? What are pre-teen kids mostly watching, aside from Doraemon and Anpanman? Anpanman is quite popular among kids. Is Sci-fi/Military genre...unpopular? |
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blly2ang said: I agree Gundam Age is a failure, people who think it's good because they have no idea how good the old series was. Gundam Age should have do more work in the story line before release it, not just copy other old gundam series. In other hand gundam unicorn is great, i love story. I know how good the old series are, Zeta is one of my favourite anime series, but I still think Age is better than people give it credit for, so your theory is busted. |
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shakeyourpup45 said: Kids don't understand wars and space colonies? What are pre-teen kids mostly watching, aside from Doraemon and Anpanman? Anpanman is quite popular among kids. Because Tomino's original vision for Gundam was targeted for an older demographic, he wanted to change the way people see Mecha animes in the past, and it WORKED. Basically Gundam (0079) is a Madoka Magica in terms of "an anime that deconstructs a theme". If Madoka deviates from the whole "mahou shoujo" theme by making it more gritty, Gundam (0079) deviates from the "Super Robot" theme that was very popular in the past by making it more about human conflict and showing that the anime can also attract older viewers. |
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mitch3315 said: blly2ang said: I agree Gundam Age is a failure, people who think it's good because they have no idea how good the old series was. Gundam Age should have do more work in the story line before release it, not just copy other old gundam series. In other hand gundam unicorn is great, i love story. I know how good the old series are, Zeta is one of my favourite anime series, but I still think Age is better than people give it credit for, so your theory is busted. This I seen Zeta, War in the Pocket, Chars Counter Attack, half of 0079, and am eventually going to watch 0083 and F91. I'm not going to watch Unicorn until its complete cause I can barely wait one week for AGE as it is or a month for the new Pandora Hearts chapters. xD So AGE is good, but 00 is still the best for me. ^_^ |
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jpem said: blly2ang said: I agree Gundam Age is a failure, people who think it's good because they have no idea how good the old series was. Gundam Age should have do more work in the story line before release it, not just copy other old gundam series. In other hand gundam unicorn is great, i love story. Criticizing gundam Age for being the same rehashed stuff but then saying Unicorn is great....what? Unicorn is exactly that just with awesome visuals and music. The difference is "Unicorn is a sequel", so the feeling of a "copy" is not as strong as a "new series". |
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angelslayerX said: ...that kids today are unfamiliar with wars and space colonies. eh, what? Childs todays are unfamiliar with war? With call of duty and all those wargames that fly around? This is Japan we are talking about, not any other country. |
| The failure of Gundam Age proves my point, that Bandai and Sunrise are way too obsessed in pleasing their customers for cash instead of making really great stories -- the same mistake they committed -- and is still committing -- in making the SEED series. It turned out that the overly cute cartoonish character designs of Age really foreshadows its failure -- for all its apparent angst, it failed to achieve the desired atmosphere to match up with that of Unicorn or even Yoshiyuki fuckin' Tomino's original series. Yes, the reason TOS turned out so successful is that Tomino insists in being himself always; he even clashed with the Sunrise higher-ups several times! Seriously, Vagan has been reduced to mere typical cartoon villains now. -0- Pardon me for making such a rude comment to SEED and Age, but as a film scoring major student, I really want to speak out against the commercialist TV entertainment industries -- Hollywood and anime alike! |
jmal said: SEED undoubtedly became mega financial success for them, but the fact that they still ain't releasing more of it proving Destiny leave some damage to the franchise, ok maybe not financially because its sell like fries... but when its come to franchise that as big as this, there's something more than making money.. Even now people still talking about Destiny's controversy.raidenwarrior said: I really want to speak out against the commercialist TV entertainment industries -- Hollywood and anime alike! Eh, good luck with that, I guess. I stopped getting worked up about such things when I stopped being a teenager. I'll like the things I like whether they're popular or not. I've loved shows that have completely bombed and have virtually no other fans. I've loved shows that are among the best selling ever made. And of course I love shows all across the spectrum in between. Also, SEED and AGE were "the same mistake"? Heck, Bandai/Sunrise no doubt wish they could make more "mistakes" like SEED, one of the most successful franchises in anime history. Doesn't that illustrate a flaw in your conclusion? If AGE failed because it didn't work hard enough to tell a "really great story", then what explains the absolute enormity of SEED's success, if you feel it suffers from the same problem? |
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| So seeing as how AGE is an enormous flop and ORIGIN will undoubtedly do well. Does this mean we are gonna get a Crossbone Gundam anime? It's like what all the fans have been asking for since Unicorn got announced. |
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