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04-08-12, 11:44 AM
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This is the official thread for FAL Spring 2012. We'll be posting links to all important results here. Starting this season, you will be given a detailed overview of your team's status and how many points you scored in which section each week. We're also adding a ranking overview so you can easily track your team's ups and downs. Please read the additional explanation at the end of this post to avoid confusion.

If you find errors in any of this data please report them in this thread.
We can fix reported errors for the previous week until the next Sunday, 13:00 UTC.


Week 01: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 02: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 03: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 04: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 05: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 06: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 07: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 08: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 09: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 10: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 11: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 12: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 13: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 14: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking


Explanation: Weekly Performances
These rankings show how many points your team scored in a particular week. That's why they are different from the main rankings you can find in the results threads. These rankings also don't have bonuses or penalities applied from aces and wildcards.
Points less than #1 this week shows the difference in points between you and the player whose team scored most points this week.
Points less than #1 in ranking shows the difference in points this week between you and the player who is currently ranked first overall.
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04-08-12, 1:05 PM

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1 BlackKnight27 33889
1 Bui 33889
1 skyw4lk3r1987 33889


CONSPIRACY!!

anyway, i didnt actually know how you guys were gonna do this, it seems like a hell of a lot of coding to do, i havent seen any mistakes on my end.


 
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supermegasonic said:
1 BlackKnight27 33889
1 Bui 33889
1 skyw4lk3r1987 33889


CONSPIRACY!!


Or Is It? O.o

Also I didn't expect 3 people to be tied for first lol.
 
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04-29-12, 1:01 PM
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Due to the discrepancy in number of replies displayed in the forum and the actual number of posts (first post isn't included in the number of replies), the forum posts weren't counted correctly in week 2. Since we only noticed this now we can't fix it for week 2. We added the missing post for each thread in the results for week 4. From now on the number of posts will be counted correctly.
 
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Someone apparently has set Medaka Box as completed in week 4 but that can't be true, right?
 
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Zhou said:
Someone apparently has set Medaka Box as completed in week 4 but that can't be true, right?

Well, normally you can't set an airing anime as completed but unfortunately the restriction can be bypassed so it's totally possible that some stats show numbers for completed. We know of this problem but since the rules say +1 point for each user who has anime under "Currently Watching" or "Completed" that week on MAL we decided to just count these numbers for completed even if the anime is still airing. We'll change this next FAL season.
 
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We fixed the results for weeks 2, 3, and 4. We think this solution is fairer than what we first did (just adding the missing posts). Since people swapped in different weeks our previous solution gave some of them more/less points, treating many teams similar. Swaps are a strategic element which can be very important to decide the winner so we think it's important that all people get the points they deserve. The result is that the total points slightly changed for some people. The ranking also slightly changed for weeks 2 and 3, however, there is no effect on the ranking for week 4.

Here are some examples:

BlackKnight27
Swap in week 3:
out: Zetman
in: Tasogare Otome x Amnesia

We previously added +4 missing posts for Tasogare Otome x Amnesia in week 4.
Now we added +2 for Zetman in week 2 and +2 for Tasogare Otome x Amnesia in week 4.
=> No difference in missing posts => same total points

Higashi_no_Kaze
Swap in week 4:
out: Medaka Box
in: Hyouka

We previously added +0 missing posts for Hyouka in week 4.
Now we added +2 for Medaka Box in week 2 and +0 for Hyouka in week 4.
=> Difference of two missing posts => +50 points

Midori-tan
Swap in week 3:
out: Eureka Seven AO
in: Tasogare Otome x Amnesia

We previously added +4 missing posts for Tasogare Otome x Amnesia in week 4.
Now we added +1 for Eureka Seven AO in week 2 and +2 for Tasogare Otome x Amnesia in week 4.
=> Difference of one missing post => -25 points


The overview in the first post of this thread links now to the new results. For your own comparison we kept the wrong results.
If you find any error or are unsure about something please report it in this thread as soon as possible.

Week 2 old: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 2 new: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking

Week 3 old: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 3 new: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking

Week 4 old: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking
Week 4 new: Results | Details | Performance | Ranking


And here is the new team ranking list as of week 4 (old total points are in brackets).
Players who are effected are marked blue in the list.
 
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05-06-12, 4:06 PM

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I just noticed that Shirakuma Cafe did not get the X2 points for week 5. I don't know if it was just me who got missed or others.


Jormungand
- Watching: 10593
Kimi to Boku. 2
- Watching: 5035
Lupin the Third: Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna
- Watching: 4479
Shirokuma Cafe
- Watching: 4814
- Watching x2: 4814
Uchuu Kyoudai
- Watching: 7847
 
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Can you please explain what exactly the problem is here? You say it didn't get X2 points but then you marked exactly these X2 points bold and when I calculate your points manually, everything seems to be fine.
 
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I guess he's referring to the number at "Watching" being the same as the x2 number. So one of the numbers must be wrong I'd say.
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Go Fish!
 
05-07-12, 4:31 AM

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I think the numbers are right but that that person is being thrown off by the format for the points accrual. The numbers as is add up correctly.
 
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No, they have to be the same. 4814 users were watching Shirokuma Cafe yesterday, so you get 4814 points for watching and additionally 4814 points for watching x2.

If we missed the x2 he'd get

10593+5035+4479+4814+7847 = 32768 points

But including the x2 points he gets

10593+5035+4479+4814+4814+7847 = 37582 points

which is the number in the details.

So if this is the reason then I guess it's just a misunderstanding of the output. The x2 points are included.
 
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Makes sense, though the format is a bit confusing considering in the Forum Thread the total points are written after the x2.
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05-07-12, 2:32 PM

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Okay, I was just expecting to see 9628 when it's multiplied by 2.
 
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If you find anything confusing you can write that in the suggestion thread and we'll see how we can change this for the next season.
We currently use the old format for the results (with some small modifications) to make it easier for people who already participated in FAL while we use our own new format for the details in this thread. So yeah, maybe some things need to be adjusted. I guess I just add the points for x2 in the results too and maybe add an explanation how to read the points in the details.
 
05-20-12, 12:05 PM

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Good addition with the number of people dropping a show, were the numbers just for this week or for the overall statistic, I'm not quite sure?
 
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I'm not quite sure if I understand the question correctly. We present the numbers of users dropped only for weeks 7 and 14 because these are the weeks you get points for them (or rather you lose points). We record the numbers of users dropped (and favorites and the scores) every week and there will be some statistics at the end of the season, but at this point I can't say how it will look like and what will be included.
 
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Luna_ said:
I'm not quite sure if I understand the question correctly. We present the numbers of users dropped only for weeks 7 and 14 because these are the weeks you get points for them (or rather you lose points). We record the numbers of users dropped (and favorites and the scores) every week and there will be some statistics at the end of the season, but at this point I can't say how it will look like and what will be included.


But I guess unlike episode discussion posts Drops can count twice (in Week 7 and 14), am I right?
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05-22-12, 6:36 AM
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Yeah, it's the same as with users watching, we simply take the number of users dropped of weeks 7 and 14. So unless people don't change the status from dropped to another status after week 7, it will also count in week 14.
 
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A few of those discussion post counts look lower than they are supposed to be. During the week I noticed some series' discussion posts' reply counts go down a few times. When I checked to see what was going on, it turned out that some older replies from those threads were gone. Would it be possible for a recheck to be done to make sure that all the discussion post counts are accurate for this two week period?

Edit: After double-checking, Eureka Seven AO, Kore wa Zombie Desu ka of the Dead, Uchuu Kyoudai and Zetman all should have anywhere from one to nine more discussion posts in their counts. There could be others.

I checked all four series manually and all numbers are correct. Did you maybe save the old (wrong) details and used these for your calculations?


No, I manually checked them according to the replies' timestamps and counted them.


Okay, here is how I calculate the posts:

Since I wanted screenshots of the boards to compare I had to calculate new results (there are some new posts). These new results are calculated at 4:19 AM UTC. I put the new posts in brackets. I also added the screenshots of the boards (please note that the timestamp here is UTC+2).

w2 + w4 + w6 + w8 (new results, subtract the new posts to get the original number of posts)

Eureka Seven AO: 123 + 219 + 162 + 221 = 725 (4 news posts) screenshot of the board
Kore wa Zombie Desu ka of the Dead: 282 + 192 + 156 + 228 = 858 (3 new posts) screenshot of the board
Uchuu Kyoudai: 199 + 106 + 93 + 67 = 465 (2 new posts) screenshot of the board
Zetman: 280 + 143 + 130 + 89 = 642 (0 new posts) screenshot of the board

Everything is calculated correctly and the number of new posts since the official calculation for week 8 is also correct.
Maybe you can explain how you exactly count posts?
Modified by Luna_, 05-27-12, 10:12 PM
 
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