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Apr 29, 2012 2:36 AM

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not at all - my problem with this anime is the fact that it has no likeable main characters and the plot has left me less than thrilled....reminds me of the way guilty crown left me feeling: empty...
 
Apr 29, 2012 6:13 AM

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It depends greatly on what they do with him in the series, but personally I think the characters' design is ingenious. It's not just the fact he's a hefty guy, I think even his overall design illustrates the point of the character really well. Everything about this character seems designed to attract attack...even amongst quite a few of us in the audience. He's round. He design wise doesn't fit in(I don't think he's like...ugly though. Kinda harsh. lol He seems designed to be more "cute", although it does definitely clash regardless) He's not a character designed for escapism (from the audience anyways), to self-insert into or be larger than life with. He can't even be written off as comedy relief, which is what usually happens with characters like this. You HAVE to deal with the bs he puts up with, and you either sympathize off the bat or you hate the character...but even he hates himself. At least in the beginning.

He's a kid who's been kicked around and dismissed hard just because of who he is, which has in turn made his personality the way it is which just in turn makes it worse; and while the design does kind of stand out sometimes...looking at it from a more metaphorical point of view it's very fitting. Based off of what I've seen of the manga and light novel even a little further ahead, I think a major theme of the story isn't just transcending your limits...it's also about surfaces. In the accelerated world, the surfaces people have in the real world don't matter as much which is where a lot of the dichotomy of the story's premise comes from. If you guys stick with the story, you're gonna find that a sort of running theme is that Haru wears his uglier traits more out in the open...but he's got a good heart, whereas many of the "prettier" characters who seem genuine, cool, or well intentioned are usually hiding something a little uglier. So love it or hate it, personally I think he's very much made for this story.

I think the fact his avatar is a pig is fitting too, even if it wasn't his original one; not because of the superficial reason but because in the Chinese Zodiac, a lot about the pig fits this characters' whole concept extremely well. Especially how pigs deal with pain and betrayal.
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Apr 29, 2012 8:32 AM

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kururugikai said:
really?
from what i see in the first half of episode 4,
he is a GAY.
(how could "normal people" call a dream with two bishoujo as a "nightmare"?)
I was wondering why people said "nightmare" so I watched again and I don't think it's "nightmare"! He's using "soutei" or "sotei" (hard to know since he was crying at the same time) but the two worlds meaning is "assumption/supposition" who could be translated more like "dream" but since he was crying "nightmare" was used by subbers?
Still, even if the world was "nightmare" (akumu), why "gay"???? His best girl friend, who's boyfriend is his best guy friend assault him... I'm not sure most of the guys will be happy!!! If you were, what a good friendship... and about Kurohime, she's like a "real" princess for him, someone too far since he had absolutely no self esteem... it's definitely a bad dream for him!

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MAL's topics are funny! A main chara is fat AND small!!!! Oh chocking!
Seriously, no one (almost?) complain when:
- a 30+ years old woman (or even an highschool girl) looks like 10 years old
- an elementary school girls or loli have D+ cup
- a skinny girl have E+ cup! sometimes we don't know how she can even stand right with so big and heavy boobs!!
It's because all those are common.

Common in anime, not IRL! But still, it's not at all believable so why complaining about a small fat chara? there are bishoujo chara around him, so where's the problem? if the girls you like sexy/loli/whatever where the opposite, you could complain about it! if this kind of chara was in a supposed bishounen anime (like reverse harem...) I would maybe also complain (but I don't think so), but here it's not a problem! He looks different because he is different! And his personality, except his lack of self esteem (who is quiet normal because of this body!) is quiet good, much better than a lot of main chara, at least in first episodes!

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30+ year old but looks like 10 what. Damn I must have missed it, someone direct me to the anime where this happened.
Also, why is this conversation still going? The question seems to have been answered.
Ro-Kyu-Bu, the MC auntie, I don't know what old she is in fact, but since MC is 16(?), MC's mother should have at least 35(?) so her sister around 30? but if you put here near the loli basket club you will see no difference! Quiet the same for Clannad, Ibuki Kouko maybe don't look 10 but not so much older, or the teacher in Index/Railgun, and other in Kore wa Zombie desu ka (even if it's not really a human woman (?) she's still looks like elementary girl! But it's easy in anime since we ofter don't know the "real" age of the chara if they are supposed to be adult!
 
Apr 29, 2012 9:42 AM

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kururugikai said:

really?
from what i see in the first half of episode 4,
he is a GAY.
(how could "normal people" call a dream with two bishoujo as a "nightmare"?)


For someone who doesn't socialize this would be a nightmare. Being forced to do someting outside your comfort zone isn't something you'd want to do, unless you're ready for it. He isn't gay, he is only insecure in every aspect...As Black Lotus/Snow Black said he is insanely fragile...He wants to play games and to hide in his little hole so that nobody else can bully him, including the two girls that were about to have sex with him in his dream.

You would call such dreams nightmares as well when you kept being bullied or when you lost the current attitude you currently have. Think a little please or try and get yourself bullied to see why he is the way he is.
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Apr 29, 2012 9:54 AM

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LeopardTheGreat said:
Paul said:
amayih said:
MAL's topics are funny! A main chara is fat AND small!!!! Oh chocking!
Seriously, no one (almost?) complain when:
- a 30+ years old woman (or even an highschool girl) looks like 10 years old
- an elementary school girls or loli have D+ cup
- a skinny girl have E+ cup! sometimes we don't know how she can even stand right with so big and heavy boobs!!


It's because all those are common.


30+ year old but looks like 10 what. Damn I must have missed it, someone direct me to the anime where this happened.

Also, why is this conversation still going? The question seems to have been answered.
'


Not sure if they're pass 30 yet but they're definitely in the 20's or up.
-Hitomi Hitoyoshi (Can't really tell her based on the picture on MAL. Here's the scene in the manga <- Don't click if your watching the anime and don't want spoilers)
-Komoe Tsukuyomi (Her age isn't stated she's indeed 'old' but just read the summary. You find her smoking and drinking in the show.)
-God from Maria Holic might work too. Lol

I'm sure there are more 'old' loli's but I'm not gonna go through.

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Apr 29, 2012 9:58 AM

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I don't mind if Haruyuki is fat, skinny, tall or short...Just as long as he doesn't end up being useless. I'm fine with his character style. From episode 4 he showed me he could man up - when pigs fly - to reach goals and to protect those that he likes so he is a worthy character, so far. When he cares, he cares. Anything that adds a breath of fresh air is always awesome, and not in a farting manner.

What I dislike about such are the people pretending to be intelligent without even realizing what bullying does to you both physically and mentally. If you haven't experienced it (bullying) then you are no expert; taking your crap with a giant heap of salt.
People even killed themselves because of bullying so it isn't a laughing matter as well. Speaking of which, I'm surprised that he didn't kill himself because of such. Guess he is mentally stronger than he seems, all thanks to a helping hand and his trusty little game.

Trust - it's so hard to gain when everybody wants to be your enemy.
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EuroSubstance said:

What I dislike about such are the people pretending to be intelligent without even realizing what bullying does to you both physically and mentally. If you haven't experienced it (bullying) then you are no expert; taking your crap with a giant heap of salt.
People even killed themselves because of bullying so it isn't a laughing matter as well. Speaking of which, I'm surprised that he didn't kill himself because of such. Guess he is mentally stronger than he seems, all thanks to a helping hand and his trusty little game.


^This. The amount of tasteless comments in this thread is amazing. It turned out to be a magnet for all those bully-wannabes on MAL.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
 
Apr 29, 2012 5:05 PM

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I thought we were just discussing whether a fat main character is suitable to be in this anime and peoples opinion on him ? How did this turned into a bullying discussion. Haha
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EuroSubstance said:

What I dislike about such are the people pretending to be intelligent without even realizing what bullying does to you both physically and mentally. If you haven't experienced it (bullying) then you are no expert; taking your crap with a giant heap of salt.
People even killed themselves because of bullying so it isn't a laughing matter as well. Speaking of which, I'm surprised that he didn't kill himself because of such. Guess he is mentally stronger than he seems, all thanks to a helping hand and his trusty little game.


Excuse me that I can't find sympathy for this unfortunate soul. Oh woe is Haru. With his pretty child hood friend who throws herself at him and makes him food on a daily basis. He's so alone.

And his weight in itself is hilarious when you think about the time he devotes to digital squash.
 
Apr 30, 2012 12:13 AM

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I don't mind at all if he's short or fat, I just don't like that he looks alot more cartoon-ish compared to every other person.
 
Apr 30, 2012 12:16 AM

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Krasie said:
EuroSubstance said:

What I dislike about such are the people pretending to be intelligent without even realizing what bullying does to you both physically and mentally. If you haven't experienced it (bullying) then you are no expert; taking your crap with a giant heap of salt.
People even killed themselves because of bullying so it isn't a laughing matter as well. Speaking of which, I'm surprised that he didn't kill himself because of such. Guess he is mentally stronger than he seems, all thanks to a helping hand and his trusty little game.


Excuse me that I can't find sympathy for this unfortunate soul. Oh woe is Haru. With his pretty child hood friend who throws herself at him and makes him food on a daily basis. He's so alone.

And his weight in itself is hilarious when you think about the time he devotes to digital squash.
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Apr 30, 2012 3:02 AM

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And his weight in itself is hilarious when you think about the time he devotes to digital squash.

here an example of a typical bully LOL
 
Apr 30, 2012 5:00 AM

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Otakus being shallow towards a fat fictional character.

If anything they should express their empathy.

Zing.
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Apr 30, 2012 5:08 AM

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I don't really care about the fact that they designed him to be a short fat kid, but his inner character is so pathetic. He thinks of himself as a disgrace just because he's chubby and gets bullied? It's his own damn fault for not getting his friends (which he fortunately has) to help him or reporting them to someone of authority. I know plenty of fat guys that are nerds who stand up for themselves and don't take shit from people.

P.S : He's lucky that chiyuri is still his friend even after what he did to the lunch she offered him.


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Apr 30, 2012 5:18 AM

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Not surprising that this thread ends up with many people with "I'm holier than thou" attitude. These people rarely try to understand his mind and just forces their own minds as a solution.

"He could just tell his friends"
Refer back to episode 1, He doesn't want to involve any of his precious friends against someone like Araya, who uses Illegal programs.


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I don't give my empathy/sympathy to fat people, they can easily lose their weight by having a proper nutrition/diet and do cardio exercise for at least 30 minutes a day. Its all about determination.

To those people who say ''I'm born fat, its so hard to lose weight, you are lucky because you aren't an endomorph like me ''

-F**k you, you're just lazy and giving excuses.

Sorry, this is kinda off-topic. But yeah and the MC inner character is extremely annoying . *bitchslap*
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Apr 30, 2012 9:31 PM

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The major thing I'm bugged by is his height.

I don't really care if he's chubby, but how will he kiss his hime? How?

Of course, I would've much preferred if it he were skinny, average height, physically suck, "ugly"(?), bad at sports, whatever, etc.

'Cuz even fat people aren't balloon shaped and that short.
 
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The major thing I'm bugged by is his height.

I don't really care if he's chubby, but how will he kiss his hime? How?

Of course, I would've much preferred if it he were skinny, average height, physically suck, "ugly"(?), bad at sports, whatever, etc.

'Cuz even fat people aren't balloon shaped and that short.


^what he said and now to think about it, how is he gonna kiss his hime. Must he stand on a chair ? Must she bend down ? She will get severe backaches if that goes on forever .
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Apr 30, 2012 11:27 PM

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so i guess at the very least you want him to be leg height to the regular ppl?
if they make him like that, he might look much "uglier" than he did before. teh chibiness is saving him from having more ppl drop this.


 
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so i guess at the very least you want him to be leg height to the regular ppl?
if they make him like that, he might look much "uglier" than he did before. teh chibiness is saving him from having more ppl drop this.


It didn't stopped me from dropping it . Heck, its not even in my list. :)
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I don't give my empathy/sympathy to fat people, they can easily lose their weight by having a proper nutrition/diet and do cardio exercise for at least 30 minutes a day. Its all about determination.


You have people on this site the say they don't have enough time to watch 30 minutes of anime a day. There's plenty of socio, economic, and genetic reasons why a person would not have the time, money, or freedom to properly exercise and eat right in order to lose weight. But this falls into the 'easier said than done category' things in life.

How will he kiss the girl? Well when they sat down at the cafetia their heads looked to be about even...so the two will never be standing during their kisses. There's other ways to makeout.

 
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I assume it's because they think that by making the MC fat it tries to panders too obviously to the fat otaku. I thought this too, at first. Now I can see that they make excellent use of it and the MC's particular insecurities vs strengths would have made far less sense on an attractive protagonist. He's one of the best written characters this season.

And, to be very honest, he'd look worse as a skinny guy with his height, lol.

And to the asshats like Spacebar, nobody who is fat is asking for empathy/sympathy, just to shut up already about it and to act civil to strangers.

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You have people on this site the say they don't have enough time to watch 30 minutes of anime a day. There's plenty of socio, economic, and genetic reasons why a person would not have the time, money, or freedom to properly exercise and eat right in order to lose weight. But this falls into the 'easier said than done category' things in life.


Medical reasons as well.
 
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You must live a very interesting life.

How did you determine that? I can relate to some aspects of his personality, but it's not like I'm the same or live the same kind of life as him.


 
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I assume it's because they think that by making the MC fat it tries to panders too obviously to the fat otaku. I thought this too, at first. Now I can see that they make excellent use of it and the MC's particular insecurities vs strengths would have made far less sense on an attractive protagonist. He's one of the best written characters this season.

And, to be very honest, he'd look worse as a skinny guy with his height, lol.

And to the asshats like Spacebar, nobody who is fat is asking for empathy/sympathy, just to shut up already about it and to act civil to strangers.


Best written characters ? You got to be kidding me . >=0

Whatever man,. Oh and yeah , sorry about that part ''nobody who is fat is asking for empathy/sympathy'' , that's my mistake .Seriously

And i think you sentence should be ''just shut up already and act civil to strangers '' instead of ''just to shut up already and to act civil to strangers''

Just saying lol . :)

@Anime_name Umm dude, 30 minutes a day is a very small amount of time . ''Not enough time '', ''genetic''and ''money'' are just excuses . Don't argue with me on that . Just to let you know, losing weight saves your cash, it doesn't increase it, a 40/40/10 diet is perfect . Maybe lesser than that .

But if its medical problems, it will be a totally different story. That's just bad luck and its kinda sad for them . Seriously, medical problems are such a pain .
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Pretty sure the answer to this post was answered like since page 2. I'm amazed it's still going strong.

supermegasonic said:
so i guess at the very least you want him to be leg height to the regular ppl?
if they make him like that, he might look much "uglier" than he did before. teh chibiness is saving him from having more ppl drop this.


Well yes that would be the case if they kept the way he's designed. However he's drawn that short because he's chibi. If he was drawn to proportion they'd have to make his character design similar as well if they wanted to avoid a hideously looking MC.


Anyways it's basically his design that threw a lot of people off. It has nothing to do with how fat he is. Although I suppose some people may be opposed to a fat MC. I can say that I definitely was turned off by the way the MC was presented compared to everyone else.(design style, Chibi etc.)
Another thing is since he is so different the way he is presented it can actually have a huge effect on the way you think of the MC depending on his personality and attitude. I've been reading a lot of comments on how they actually hate the MC because of his personality or how he acts. Add the fact he stands out from everyone else being a chibi, you may have someone who may actually be prone to disliking him more. It's a delicate area but the way the MC looks will greatly change the way you think of the character depending on their personality/attitude.
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@Anime_name Umm dude, 30 minutes a day is a very small amount of time . ''Not enough time '', ''genetic''and ''money'' are just excuses . .


Actually genetics is very good reason why and while time/money represent real limitations for some people. The fun thing about 30 minutes a day isn't just 30 min. It's a daily commitment of time some to an activity some people may not be able to do and post-exercise soreness lasts longer than 30min, which can be tough on people who are not physically capable of recovering properly.

There's too many personal physiological variables to account for that need to be thought about before dealing the intake ratios. 40/40/10(do you mean 20?) might be nice for you and you think it's perfect but go around putting people on that diet without figuring out their personal needs you'll end doing more harm to their health than good.

 
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yeah, the generic standard is 40/40/20 and when you mentioned daily commitment, you proved my point correct . They lack discipline and determination

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Just to let you know, brisk walking can be considered a cardio exercise. And it doesn't put much strain on your body. That's why even old people can do that for 30 minutes. When i meant by old people , they are 60-70+ years old . Brisk walking is efficient and easy to do.......... not only that, it is effective too . So ?

People tend to blame their genes: Check this out http://jasonstanley.hubpages.com/hub/Looking-for-permanent-weight-loss--Dont-blame-your-genes

''Are you overweight? Have you always been fat? Has losing weight been a struggle for you? If your answer is ‘Yes’ to all these questions, you must also be thinking that your ‘fat’ genes are to blame! While recent research and reports have established a direct contact between genes and weight, would it be fair if every overweight person in India and the world alike began blaming their genes?

While we are busy blaming the genes for our weight problems we overlook our fast paced lifestyles, irregular eating schedules, lack of activity and many other factors that are secretly contributing to the bulge on our waists!''

And i have bad genes by the way , i have a small bone density( I can put my fingers around my wrist easily) and I'm born with feet problems (curved in) , and I'm a freaking ectomorph . But I don't really care, I cure my feet problems when i was a small boy by daily walking forcing it to curve out, I was asked to go for an operation but i rejected it . As for the ectomorph gene problem, i started working out last year and I will never quit just because its hard. I even started to enjoy it that moment after you done your cardio and that moment where you gain muscle failure.

Edit: nope, I never ever blame my genes unlike other people
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I really have no idea why people hate him because he's fat o.O. And yes, there are people as "pathetic" as this character in real life.

Usually these people are the most amazing if they can stop hating themselves so much. IMO that's why I NEVER thought of dropping such an anime, I know of certain that his character evolution will be epic.

Yes maybe at first I didn't like that he was SHORT and FAT at the same time, well... It kinda reminds me from when I was still a teenager (it's not like it's so far from that, I mean 13-16), I was quite the fatty and I was short too. Now I'm exactly the opposite, and of course I was bullied too... I always fought back tho.

So I think I know how the character feels? Well, I never really hated myself as much as him... My pride and ego were and still are hard to put down. I'm still as shy tho.

EDIT: LOL, it seems I knew myself as an example for "as pathetic" in real life XD.




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May 2, 2012 7:24 AM

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i understand him being fat, but the fact that he's so much shorter than the females kinda bugs me. IMO.
 
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Its really hard to ask Haru to go on diet when he has already kinda given up on reality....trauma like that is not something can be easily fix with a press of a button.
 
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No worries dude, its just an anime. The author practically control everything including the characters.

Put other issues aside :

I'm just wondering why the author want to make him into a chibi fat boy . I know its unique, but.......
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No worries dude, its just an anime. The author practically control everything including the characters.

Put other issues aside :

I'm just wondering why the author want to make him into a chibi fat boy . I know its unique, but.......

Well... Being tall and fat with the design of the other characters would look ugly as fck, at least you can say he looks cute or something because he's chibi o.O.

Nah, I have no idea.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
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I want to point out the fact that people are so put off by the way the main character looks different from the other characters seems to be pretty much intentional. Looks like the fandom is singling him out for looking different, just like people do in real life to overweight people.

I am very much enjoying an anime that does not portray an overweight character as a comic relief glutton and is instead focusing on developing the character and showing the problems one would face. I look forward to the character development.
 
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they design the character like that just to make other people easy to bully him....
If not, he won't hide inside virtual world and play squash alone for so long.
 
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they design the character like that just to make other people easy to bully him....
If not, he won't hide inside virtual world and play squash alone for so long.


Ah i see.

And maybe the author wants fangirls to like the chibi fat boy . I'm not sure about girls tastes, but maybe they like chibi boys ?
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Spacebar said:
MorningGlory said:
they design the character like that just to make other people easy to bully him....
If not, he won't hide inside virtual world and play squash alone for so long.


Ah i see.

And maybe the author wants fangirls to like the chibi fat boy . I'm not sure about girls tastes, but maybe they like chibi boys ?

Yeah, girls like 130cm height fat boys. /sarcasm

It's to balance his personality. Like really, if you watched the four episodes you see the protagonist is a really nice guy, just that he's shy and hates himself because people bully him. So he tries to leave reality because he finds no more happiness in it right?

Well you can't have everything, you must lack something. Either personality, looks, sanity or brains.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
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Spacebar said:
MorningGlory said:
they design the character like that just to make other people easy to bully him....
If not, he won't hide inside virtual world and play squash alone for so long.


Ah i see.

And maybe the author wants fangirls to like the chibi fat boy . I'm not sure about girls tastes, but maybe they like chibi boys ?

Yeah, girls like 130cm height fat boys. /sarcasm

It's to balance his personality. Like really, if you watched the four episodes you see the protagonist is a really nice guy, just that he's shy and hates himself because people bully him. So he tries to leave reality because he finds no more happiness in it right?

Well you can't have everything, you must lack something. Either personality, looks, sanity or brains.


Hey, I think girls like those chibi plush round face bear/doll/toy, and he's somewhat similar to that . Just saying .

Yeap a nice guy with LOTS of flaws . Sometimes i Wonder, why must people bully, can't they just live their own life ? He practically an innocent victim rofl .

And one should not leave reality even if there is no happiness in it . Seriously.
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Spacebar said:
Immahnoob said:
Spacebar said:
MorningGlory said:
they design the character like that just to make other people easy to bully him....
If not, he won't hide inside virtual world and play squash alone for so long.


Ah i see.

And maybe the author wants fangirls to like the chibi fat boy . I'm not sure about girls tastes, but maybe they like chibi boys ?

Yeah, girls like 130cm height fat boys. /sarcasm

It's to balance his personality. Like really, if you watched the four episodes you see the protagonist is a really nice guy, just that he's shy and hates himself because people bully him. So he tries to leave reality because he finds no more happiness in it right?

Well you can't have everything, you must lack something. Either personality, looks, sanity or brains.


Hey, I think girls like those chibi plush round face bear/doll/toy, and he's somewhat similar to that . Just saying .

Yeap a nice guy with LOTS of flaws . Sometimes i Wonder, why must people bully, can't they just live their own life ? He practically an innocent victim rofl .

And one should not leave reality even if there is no happiness in it . Seriously.

Think of his personality. He HATES himself because hes fat and he thinks his friends are all better than him and he's always victim of bullies.

It's obvious some people just can't take it, so they hide in their own world. That wasn't a question, it was more like "That happened, you must know". Some people bully because they need to show themselves that they're not weak, practically they think they're weaker than the bullied one (most of them, not all), or do it because they're insane and love violence (the rest).

I don't know what to say, I don't really care of what fangirls like or don't. I just think the design is fine as it is. Just empathises more on his weaknesses and shows why he sees himself as inferior. I think it fits.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
May 2, 2012 5:14 PM

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Just to let you know, brisk walking can be considered a cardio exercise.

It's good for maintaining health,IF one is already of a healthy weight. Brisk walks aren't known to burn off enough calories to be stimulate weight loss.

Jason Stanely isn't a doctor of the human body or any actual science, he's a motivational speaker. Real scientists have found genetic links to things like obesity and diabetes, both effect how readily a person's body stores/burns fat.

 
May 2, 2012 5:40 PM

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DERP , Brisk walking does burn fats . Maybe not as much as jogging, but it burns half the amount of it . Don't fuck with me, lazy fat people are just lazy to do something so simple. Brisk walk ARE known to burn off enough calories to be stimulate weight loss. Seriously, I'm tired of you .

So ? You want to fucking blame your genetics ? Obesity and diabetes, you can count diabetes in . But its a no for obesity, its just an excuse. You will stay an obese forever if you don't exercise . And are you saying that every fat person out there in the world have disease and genetic problems ? Seriously , stop trying to push the blame on that . Only a certain portion of them are suffering from disease, what about the rest ? What are you gonna say about that ? Time/Money ? What other excuses are you giving me now ?

NO most of them are just having a bad lifestyle/lazy, that's how they get fat . People like you tend to blame on genetics. Well done .
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May 2, 2012 5:57 PM

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DERP , Brisk walking does burn fats . Maybe not as much as jogging, but it burns half the amount of it .

I never said it didn't. What I said is that it's not a great weight loss tool and in the scope of your posts, eating a particular diet and having a daily brisk walk wouldn't be advice to give to a fat person looking to lose weight.

You want to fucking blame your genetics

I said genetics is a possible factor that needs to be considered and that SOME people have problems because of it. Reading scientific studies instead of preachy BS proves that there are genetic reasons why some people have a hard time losing weight. Refusing to acknowledge that just shows how you are not ready to deal with an individuals dietary needs.

I am not giving excuses or pushing blame. All the reasons I gave you are general possibilities that if you take the time ask fat people why they are fat, you'll see there's a lot of extenuating circumstances that makes it harder than just "eating right, and poppin your vitamins" in order to lose weight and live healthy.

And are you saying that every fat person out there in the world have disease and genetic problems ?

Learn to read. I've never claimed or even hinted that what I've said applies to EVERY fat person. But what I've said is more realistic than your blanket statements that it's about people being lazy.

 
May 2, 2012 6:05 PM

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I'm too lazy to quote everything like you. So,

First, you said its not a great weight loss tool ? Brisk Walking is excellent , you are saying as if fat people aren't able to lose weight by brisk walking ? They do, but its slow . I suggested this because they don't even have the stamina to jog, they have weak heart/medical problems/etc. That's why brisk walking are excellent . What are you gonna suggest ?

second, dude SOME , that just proved my point. SOME . The rest of them are just lazy OR have a badlifestyle, what other excuse are you gonna give ? Dude, stop talking about the minority here . And in most of the cases, people get disease because they are fat , not because they get fat due to their disease. True story in most cases .

Third, my statement applies to the majority, when your's applies to the SOME/MINORITY. Think again chum
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May 2, 2012 7:25 PM

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I said it's not a good weight loss tool as you mentioned it here, a 30 min light cardio exercise. That's efficient to maintain fitness and prevent weight gain for some but to function as an effective weight loss tool the time needs to be extended and become more of a power walk than just brisk. A 30 min brisk walk and 40/40/20 diet are not excellent weight loss suggestion, prevention and maintenance maybe but those two things alone are not going to work to make fat people lose weight.

Some doesn't prove your point because you've been making general statements and ignoring the fact that what you say doesn't work for everyone. SOME has been my point all this time.

You have no numbers so please stop with this minority and majority nonsense.

What are you gonna suggest ?

Unlike you, I am not here to tell give weight loss advice in a cartoon forum. I only wanted to point out how painfully uninformed your advice is.
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May 2, 2012 7:51 PM

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Dude you just don't get it , everything that you said its just going haywired. Its like you're struggling to keep up .

Ok well, you said that Genetics/Disease is the main problem of fat people. But i disagreed with you and you been jumping jacks here and there . What I said its true , that genetic/disease is the minority problem. The majority problem is unhealthy lifestyle and lazy people .

But you won't admit it, you just can't , your pride is that hardcore ? Admit that its the minority ...just admit it.....

I didn't start giving advice's, i was implying that they are lazy/bad lifestyle/ etc and they tend to blame genetics just like you. But you're in hardcore denial mode .

Your statement failed in so many ways, that forum avatar suits you btw.

QFT : '' The amount of people getting fat due to disease is lesser than the amount of people getting disease because they are obese/fat/unhealthy lifestyle''

Stop pushing it around, you chum .

Note: I'm not here to give any weight loss advice, just here to correct your incorrect statement. People like you just want to hear what they want. Sorry, I won't let that happen
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May 2, 2012 8:27 PM

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QFT : '' The amount of people getting fat due to disease is lesser than the amount of people getting disease because they are obese/fat/unhealthy lifestyle''
LOL, quoting yourself for truth? as entertaining as it may be, you might want to tone down the arrogance level and the unnecessary flaming. Chill out. Even if you have valid arguments you won't be taken seriously with this attitude.
 
May 2, 2012 8:41 PM

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And well its the truth , are you gonna deny that ? Please provide me a legitimate answer than . So do you have a problem if I QFT myself ? Please let me know if u have one .

Flaming, ? I wasn't at first, few days ago. Till this dude crossed the line , I'm sick and tired of replying/trying to explain to him and correcting his statement.

Lol, I will take any argument with whatever attitude I want, Isn't it my life ? You guys just want to hear what you want right ? Alright then .

Genetics are the MAIN cause for obese people, diseases cause ALMOST everyone fat . Brisk Walking Does NOT help in losing weight at all .

Ok sorry folks, you guys can continue blaming/hating on genetics/diseases. As they are the main cause for obese people . Sorry for trying to let you guys know that lazyness/unhealthy lifestyle/etc are the main cause. Sorry.

I just can't keep up with this thread. So tired and its hilarious
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May 2, 2012 8:55 PM

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I thought you wanted to be taken seriously but that was my mistake.

Go ahead and continue being a buffoon for us. I have no problem with that, it is quite amusing.

(I actually agree with laziness being the main reason for obesity, but that doesn't matter.)
 
May 2, 2012 9:04 PM

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Actually that matters, cause i been emphasizing that from the start . Just that , everybody is in denial , or they are like you( someone who just want another user to get flame by other users , you don't really care about the topic, you said so. You just want to flame me when the time comes . )



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(I actually agree with laziness being the main reason for obesity, but that doesn't matter.)


^ That doesn't matter ? Hurr Durr , see that's what I meant
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May 2, 2012 9:22 PM

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Actually that matters, cause i been emphasizing that from the start . Just that , everybody is in denial , or they are like you( someone who just want another user to get flame by other users , you don't really care about the topic, you said so. You just want to flame me when the time comes . )
Well, I didn't say I don't care about the topic, you're just assuming that.

I tried to be reasonable with you, but you just took it as a personal offense (that's why my point of view on the subject won't matter). I can't do anything about how you react, but nonetheless I get a lot of fun out of overemotional posts.
 
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Ok well, you said that Genetics/Disease is the main problem of fat people.

You have been failing at reading comprehension for a long time. I never said genetics or disease were the main problems for obesity.

I have merely been pointing out you have overlooked many things in your over-simplification of the problem.

I am going to say it plain for you. Your remedy(40/40/20 diet and a brisk daily walk) aren't remedies to obesity.

 
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