Why do people have a problem with the protagonist being Fat?
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It depends greatly on what they do with him in the series, but personally I think the characters' design is ingenious. It's not just the fact he's a hefty guy, I think even his overall design illustrates the point of the character really well. Everything about this character seems designed to attract attack...even amongst quite a few of us in the audience. He's round. He design wise doesn't fit in(I don't think he's like...ugly though. Kinda harsh. lol He seems designed to be more "cute", although it does definitely clash regardless) He's not a character designed for escapism (from the audience anyways), to self-insert into or be larger than life with. He can't even be written off as comedy relief, which is what usually happens with characters like this. You HAVE to deal with the bs he puts up with, and you either sympathize off the bat or you hate the character...but even he hates himself. At least in the beginning.
He's a kid who's been kicked around and dismissed hard just because of who he is, which has in turn made his personality the way it is which just in turn makes it worse; and while the design does kind of stand out sometimes...looking at it from a more metaphorical point of view it's very fitting. Based off of what I've seen of the manga and light novel even a little further ahead, I think a major theme of the story isn't just transcending your limits...it's also about surfaces. In the accelerated world, the surfaces people have in the real world don't matter as much which is where a lot of the dichotomy of the story's premise comes from. If you guys stick with the story, you're gonna find that a sort of running theme is that Haru wears his uglier traits more out in the open...but he's got a good heart, whereas many of the "prettier" characters who seem genuine, cool, or well intentioned are usually hiding something a little uglier. So love it or hate it, personally I think he's very much made for this story.
I think the fact his avatar is a pig is fitting too, even if it wasn't his original one; not because of the superficial reason but because in the Chinese Zodiac, a lot about the pig fits this characters' whole concept extremely well. Especially how pigs deal with pain and betrayal.
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MAL's topics are funny! A main chara is fat AND small!!!! Oh chocking!
Seriously, no one (almost?) complain when:
- a 30+ years old woman (or even an highschool girl) looks like 10 years old
- an elementary school girls or loli have D+ cup
- a skinny girl have E+ cup! sometimes we don't know how she can even stand right with so big and heavy boobs!!
It's because all those are common.
30+ year old but looks like 10 what. Damn I must have missed it, someone direct me to the anime where this happened.
Also, why is this conversation still going? The question seems to have been answered.
Not sure if they're pass 30 yet but they're definitely in the 20's or up.
-Hitomi Hitoyoshi (Can't really tell her based on the picture on MAL. Here's the scene in the manga <- Don't click if your watching the anime and don't want spoilers)
-Komoe Tsukuyomi (Her age isn't stated she's indeed 'old' but just read the summary. You find her smoking and drinking in the show.)
-God from Maria Holic might work too. Lol
I'm sure there are more 'old' loli's but I'm not gonna go through.
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What I dislike about such are the people pretending to be intelligent without even realizing what bullying does to you both physically and mentally. If you haven't experienced it (bullying) then you are no expert; taking your crap with a giant heap of salt.
People even killed themselves because of bullying so it isn't a laughing matter as well. Speaking of which, I'm surprised that he didn't kill himself because of such. Guess he is mentally stronger than he seems, all thanks to a helping hand and his trusty little game.
Excuse me that I can't find sympathy for this unfortunate soul. Oh woe is Haru. With his pretty child hood friend who throws herself at him and makes him food on a daily basis. He's so alone.
And his weight in itself is hilarious when you think about the time he devotes to digital squash.
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Not surprising that this thread ends up with many people with "I'm holier than thou" attitude. These people rarely try to understand his mind and just forces their own minds as a solution.
"He could just tell his friends"
Refer back to episode 1, He doesn't want to involve any of his precious friends against someone like Araya, who uses Illegal programs.
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I assume it's because they think that by making the MC fat it tries to panders too obviously to the fat otaku. I thought this too, at first. Now I can see that they make excellent use of it and the MC's particular insecurities vs strengths would have made far less sense on an attractive protagonist. He's one of the best written characters this season.
And, to be very honest, he'd look worse as a skinny guy with his height, lol.
And to the asshats like Spacebar, nobody who is fat is asking for empathy/sympathy, just to shut up already about it and to act civil to strangers.
Best written characters ? You got to be kidding me . >=0
Whatever man,. Oh and yeah , sorry about that part ''nobody who is fat is asking for empathy/sympathy'' , that's my mistake .Seriously
And i think you sentence should be ''just shut up already and act civil to strangers '' instead of ''just to shut up already and to act civil to strangers''
Just saying lol . :)
@Anime_name Umm dude, 30 minutes a day is a very small amount of time . ''Not enough time '', ''genetic''and ''money'' are just excuses . Don't argue with me on that . Just to let you know, losing weight saves your cash, it doesn't increase it, a 40/40/10 diet is perfect . Maybe lesser than that .
But if its medical problems, it will be a totally different story. That's just bad luck and its kinda sad for them . Seriously, medical problems are such a pain .
Actually glad that nepal is facing disaster
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@Anime_name Umm dude, 30 minutes a day is a very small amount of time . ''Not enough time '', ''genetic''and ''money'' are just excuses . .
Actually genetics is very good reason why and while time/money represent real limitations for some people. The fun thing about 30 minutes a day isn't just 30 min. It's a daily commitment of time some to an activity some people may not be able to do and post-exercise soreness lasts longer than 30min, which can be tough on people who are not physically capable of recovering properly.
There's too many personal physiological variables to account for that need to be thought about before dealing the intake ratios. 40/40/10(do you mean 20?) might be nice for you and you think it's perfect but go around putting people on that diet without figuring out their personal needs you'll end doing more harm to their health than good.
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yeah, the generic standard is 40/40/20 and when you mentioned daily commitment, you proved my point correct . They lack discipline and determination
Just to let you know, brisk walking can be considered a cardio exercise. And it doesn't put much strain on your body. That's why even old people can do that for 30 minutes. When i meant by old people , they are 60-70+ years old . Brisk walking is efficient and easy to do.......... not only that, it is effective too . So ?
People tend to blame their genes: Check this out http://jasonstanley.hubpages.com/hub/Looking-for-permanent-weight-loss--Dont-blame-your-genes
''Are you overweight? Have you always been fat? Has losing weight been a struggle for you? If your answer is ‘Yes’ to all these questions, you must also be thinking that your ‘fat’ genes are to blame! While recent research and reports have established a direct contact between genes and weight, would it be fair if every overweight person in India and the world alike began blaming their genes?
While we are busy blaming the genes for our weight problems we overlook our fast paced lifestyles, irregular eating schedules, lack of activity and many other factors that are secretly contributing to the bulge on our waists!''
And i have bad genes by the way , i have a small bone density( I can put my fingers around my wrist easily) and I'm born with feet problems (curved in) , and I'm a freaking ectomorph . But I don't really care, I cure my feet problems when i was a small boy by daily walking forcing it to curve out, I was asked to go for an operation but i rejected it . As for the ectomorph gene problem, i started working out last year and I will never quit just because its hard. I even started to enjoy it that moment after you done your cardio and that moment where you gain muscle failure.
Edit: nope, I never ever blame my genes unlike other people
Modified by Kappa-ing, May 1, 2012 9:02 PM
Actually glad that nepal is facing disaster
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I want to point out the fact that people are so put off by the way the main character looks different from the other characters seems to be pretty much intentional. Looks like the fandom is singling him out for looking different, just like people do in real life to overweight people.
I am very much enjoying an anime that does not portray an overweight character as a comic relief glutton and is instead focusing on developing the character and showing the problems one would face. I look forward to the character development.
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Spacebar said:LOL, quoting yourself for truth? as entertaining as it may be, you might want to tone down the arrogance level and the unnecessary flaming. Chill out. Even if you have valid arguments you won't be taken seriously with this attitude.
QFT : '' The amount of people getting fat due to disease is lesser than the amount of people getting disease because they are obese/fat/unhealthy lifestyle''
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I thought you wanted to be taken seriously but that was my mistake.
Go ahead and continue being a buffoon for us. I have no problem with that, it is quite amusing.
(I actually agree with laziness being the main reason for obesity, but that doesn't matter.)
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Spacebar said:Well, I didn't say I don't care about the topic, you're just assuming that.
Actually that matters, cause i been emphasizing that from the start . Just that , everybody is in denial , or they are like you( someone who just want another user to get flame by other users , you don't really care about the topic, you said so. You just want to flame me when the time comes . )
I tried to be reasonable with you, but you just took it as a personal offense (that's why my point of view on the subject won't matter). I can't do anything about how you react, but nonetheless I get a lot of fun out of overemotional posts.
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