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Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 Episode 22 Discussion

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09-07-08, 1:00 PM

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What are these people doing, every episode feels as if they're trying to create something very 'cool', but you can only have that much plot twists before it gets utterly ridiculous and pitiful -____-
Lulu x Kallen moment was good, but not good enough to balance a whole wtf episode. Oh well, not that I care, he belongs with C.C. anyway.

initial reaction to the final scene: omg omg au shiiiiit now she's opening those eyes and revealing a double geass, the little evil bitch D:
I wonder if they saved it for the next episode, or she's going to fight Lulu with kindness and rainbows?... okay, next >__>
 
09-07-08, 1:00 PM

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Hmmmmm Code Geass IS immsensly popular.... dunno if they'll make a S3 , but I still have to say that I'm still rly liking Code Geass and it's still a 10 , I kinda knew that Nunally couldn't possibly be dead, but yeah...

For all the people who thought it went all shit and stupid now, it's still fucking awesome unpredictable high intelligence ''chess game'' and pure awesomeness anime...

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What are these people doing, every episode feels as if they're trying to create something very 'cool', but you can only have that much plot twists before it gets utterly ridiculous and pitiful -____-


Hmmmmm maybe a bit TOO much plottwists and big ones.... but that's Code Geass for ya and it at least makes is still interesting to watch and cliffhangerish and rly unpredictable, which is a key for good anime , Predictable = most of the times boring
 
09-07-08, 1:02 PM

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loooool

That's all I can say.
 
09-07-08, 1:03 PM

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I wonder how they'll end ALL THIS in only 3 more eps....

They won't. Expect a heaping pile of steaming crap for the next season.

I agree here.
 
09-07-08, 1:04 PM

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Hax-a-lot Albion totally pwned knight of rounds. Lulu makes himself the bad guy. Nunnaly, please die. KallenxLulu is stronger than ever. Ninja maid is OK, unfortunately Rollo must be OK too. I smell plot twists. O RLY? YA RLY. C.C. is very likely to die protecting Lulu.

Lulu, you look like gay. Go wear something different.
 
09-07-08, 1:04 PM

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This is Geass, the blockbuster of anime. There's approximately everything possible in it, bad or good, be it scenario and plot strings, characters and relations, styles and references. You could say it's too much, but I loved the last two episodes because Lellouch is going 100% on his objectives and to the limits of his character, doing evil to enforce good, and just for that : Lellouch is a great character (more similar to Reinhard Von Lohengram from Legend of the Galactic Heroes than Light Yagami from Death Note after all) and Code Geass is a great series. And I hope (and I'm convinced) that it will be a very sad end for the hero who totally deserves it.

Wow, coming back to this episode, which was nearly perfect from a scenaristic and chara-development point of view, Schneizel has finally made his move and the last episodes will be awesome, that's for sure. Can't wait to see how it'll end, even if I have some ideas already.

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
 
09-07-08, 1:05 PM

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Wow, coming back to this episode, which was nearly perfect from a scenaristic and chara-development point of view, Schneizel has finally made his move and the last episodes will be awesome, that's for sure. Can't wait to see how it'll end, even if I have some ideas already.

Expect plottwists. A lot of plot twists.
 
09-07-08, 1:11 PM

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i wonder if that's the real nunally, but i guess it most likely is...
 
09-07-08, 1:18 PM

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I don't think they're making another season... but if they do awesome
 
09-07-08, 1:20 PM

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Alexius said:
It was also interesting to hear that Rivalz was Lelouch's "primary VIP." Interesting turn of events there. And it's quite certain that Lelouch, C.C., and Spinzaku still have some sort of plan up their sleeves. They had certainly "predicted this" (sans Nunally, I guess).
I think that was Nina. Shes the smartass eh and Count Pudding was there to welcome her. ;<
 
09-07-08, 1:21 PM

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Lelouch got godly owned at the end of the episode... everything else was rather predictable.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
09-07-08, 1:23 PM

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Lol. Thats it. Just lol.

I'm disappointed... Kallen x Lulu has been killed... and Lulu had to take the kiss like a homo. T_T But of course that means that he's available. ;)

And Lulu has a nice gay hat. Which makes me love him even more. :D

And of course everyone realized at some earlier point that Nunally was still alive.

I'm wondering how they're going to finish this in 3 episodes... but if they start a third season...

And I still liked this episode despite my disappointment with Kallen x Lulu.

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09-07-08, 1:23 PM

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I actually liked the episode for the first 15 minutes or so, although I hoped that they would do some backstory between Suzaku and Lelouch, as I do think they're too chummy right now. But Lelouch was doing good things. The story was progressing along, it was interesting, no wacky plot twists, no deus ex machinas.

Then the Kallen x Lulu goodbye kiss happened, which was sad to see, but disappointing with Lelouch's lack of response.

Then all hell broke loose.

Not sure what Schneizel's Damocles plan has to do with Lulu taking over the world by force. If he was going to do that, he might as well went along with Charles' and Marianne's plan.

And damn them for bringing Nunanlly back. I knew it was too good to be true. Dead characters should stay dead. Especially when they're caught in the blast radius of a WMD. Not only did they bring Nunnally back, but her "you're my enemy," comment was totally out of character.

Whatever. I'm preparing myself for the worst. The greatest twist of all would be if Lelouch somehow survived at the end of the series.
 
09-07-08, 1:23 PM

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wow. a challanger appears! Nunally as Lulu and Suzaku's enemy huh...well, it looks like the series is going for a hell of a conclusion. i'm thinking that Kallen Lulu ship is dead now, but then Lulu CC always looked like the most likely to happen to me. Lets hope Kallen is still alive at the end at least. finally, seeing what Lulu is doing as Emperor is pretty interesting. Peace through dictatorship perhaps? real historical figures have been just as controversial, so i buy it.

also, people seem to think that Nunally is being out of character. is she? we've never been given any glimpses at what her character REALLY is. this is a show about masks, after all...
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09-07-08, 1:25 PM

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AHHHHHHHHHHH Nunally is alive! WTF WTFFFFF!!!!!
So the Freyja was really a material trasporter not a bomb.
Sayoko also showed up in the preview. wow this episode is great...


As predicted, although we are still not sure about the teleportation part...

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(it's also possible that Nunally sees everything in Lulu's mind by her super mind-reading power.)


that's what I have been suggesting to people since season 1. That will be hilarious.

Suzaku killing 3 Knights of Round in 2 minutes was...lame...That's what happens when you tried too hard putting plot twists while you don't need as much....

This analogy is made:
If Naruto = junk food
then Code Geass = steroid
(Series like Aria would be considered fine cuisine in this case)
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
 
09-07-08, 1:33 PM

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gogoulo said:
you forgot the best part....Lelouch x Karen kiss.............


Lelouch took it like a homo.
lol
 
09-07-08, 1:40 PM

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I like how people are calling nunnaly evil and out of character. well to nunnaly her caring, loving brother just turned out to an evil villain set on world domination, thatt's been killing their parents and siblings. sure schneizel is using her and probably only told her half truths but Lelouch/Suzaku look like nothing but scum/villains especially after claiming to want peach with the UFN and then going about it that way.

even if he does care about the people he loves he doesn't show it at all so it's doubtful noone will believe or trust again.
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09-07-08, 1:49 PM

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Schienzal is telling false shit to Nunally. Lelouch better fuck him up. Shits getting awesome. To those people who says this is stupid and shit, just don't watch it then.
 
09-07-08, 1:56 PM

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Bah, Nunally is back. :(
 
09-07-08, 1:59 PM

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what
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Man that was so weird yet amazing again...
BTW: Lelouch's outfit is nice. D:
 
09-07-08, 1:59 PM

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mmmmmm smexy time with Kallen.
 
09-07-08, 2:11 PM

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YES, Orange-kun is alive

The lack of Orange in this thread is disturbing..
 
09-07-08, 2:13 PM

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WOW a whole army get defeated by one knight and less then 1min

The real question is how they gonna end it

yeah and i liked the episode :D
 
09-07-08, 2:14 PM
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DEUS EX MACHINA.

Hmm, damn. Still too early to tell what Lelouch's real objective is. And so sad Nunally said she was their enemy. I screamed at the TV, rofl.
 
09-07-08, 2:16 PM

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OMFG!! I was so surprised that Nunnaly was alive! I was convinced that she was dead and to think that she declared that she is the enemy of Lelouch and Suzaku was so unlike her! I am so nervous but totally excited for the next episode! XD

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!


 
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I had my hopes up, and she lives. LOL. Great stuff.

Wait, compare Code Geass to 00? 00 wasn't that good. o_O
 
09-07-08, 2:21 PM

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This is really stupid now. I don't like the direction they are going in.

Of course Nunnally is still alive. But still, the whole concept of her opposing Lelouch and Suzaku is stupid. They ruined her character totally. It's a shame.
 
09-07-08, 2:27 PM

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o_______o Holy fack. Nunnaly?!
 
09-07-08, 2:29 PM

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Does anybody else LOVE Emperor Lelouch's outfit?
 
09-07-08, 2:35 PM

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C2 will pilot a pink Lancelot next. I'm not too sad about the Kallen x Lulu breakup. My couple is Lulu x C.C. Although my ideal fantasy couple is the Kaguya harem x Lulu.
 
09-07-08, 2:36 PM

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Misa_Kakizaki said:
My couple is Lulu x C.C. Although my ideal fantasy couple is the Kaguya harem x Lulu.


D: I wanted Lelouch x Kaguya.



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09-07-08, 2:39 PM

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YEAH SAYOKO IS ALIVE! Thanx for all the gods, my fav ninja is not dead!!
But I'm disappointed with Nana. It was out of character, to be enemy of his own brother. Suzaku lost his mind, totally. And also, after that, Karen, what will you do?
And Gino, please don't die. You're so freacking cute XD

 
09-07-08, 2:40 PM

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Nana is being misinformed by Schneizel.


Schneizel is the greatest jackass ever using Nunnally as a tool.

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DEUS EX MACHINA.

Hmm, damn. Still too early to tell what Lelouch's real objective is. And so sad Nunally said she was their enemy. I screamed at the TV, rofl.


His objective is most likely to bring peace to the whole world by making himself the common enemy for the whole world. Just like what Celestial Being did in Gundam 00.


 
09-07-08, 2:48 PM

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Masterpiece as always
Schneizels move:Touche, I didn't seen that coming, i wonder what Lulu will do now.
 
09-07-08, 2:59 PM

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v.v Geez, Nunally, is just like Orange, Villetta, and Ohgi. They just won't die........

All people need to do is bow to Lelouch, and everything will be solved. <_<

By the way, is it just me or is Schnizial [sp?] manipulating people way to easily. Like, wtf?! First, he goes to the black knights, tells them some things, and BAM! Lelouch=betrayed! Even though they would have been dead in seconds if Zero wasn't there. v.v
Then, I am guessing Nunally, after all Lelouch has done for her [for, what? her entire life], decided after listening to Schnizial [for a few days], that her brother was bad?!

<__< Geez.....I mean, Nunally should have at least heard Lelouch's side.

Damn, no wonder the emp. had such an easy time taking over the world. I mean, if I was the emp [as in Charles] I would have gotten bored to. These people are not even smart, to easily manipulated. And its a wonder how Schnizial built that huge thing, with the Emperor not noticing.

Anywho, my predictions of next episode.

 
09-07-08, 3:01 PM

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NUUUUUUUUUUNNAALLLYYYYYYYYYYYY XDDDDDDDDDD
Her comeback was predictable though. x3
"I am your enemy!" fufufufu.

LuluxKallen...! ;; My fav part in the whole series <3
"Sayonara, Lelouch."
"Sayonara, Kallen."
;_______;


 
09-07-08, 3:07 PM

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im disappointed that more didnt happen, i dont hate nunnally but is she needed? im mean i seems her only purpose in r1 and r2 is to get in people way. There are 3 more episode and still dont know what lu lu and Suzaku are trying to accomplish taking over the world really geassing everyone into agree with you dont they even know that they are doing the same the Brittianin were doing.

mark it down Lelouch death,Suzaku death, the holy empire crumbles 5 years later nunnaly and kallen are in college and happly ever after.WTF!!!!!

*deletes R1 & R2 episodes off hardrive*
 
09-07-08, 3:08 PM

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v.v Geez, Nunally, is just like Orange, Villetta, and Ohgi. They just won't die........

All people need to do is bow to Lelouch, and everything will be solved. <_<

By the way, is it just me or is Schnizial [sp?] manipulating people way to easily. Like, wtf?! First, he goes to the black knights, tells them some things, and BAM! Lelouch=betrayed! Even though they would have been dead in seconds if Zero wasn't there. v.v
Then, I am guessing Nunally, after all Lelouch has done for her [for, what? her entire life], decided after listening to Schnizial [for a few days], that her brother was bad?!

<__< Geez.....I mean, Nunally should have at least heard Lelouch's side.

Damn, no wonder the emp. had such an easy time taking over the world. I mean, if I was the emp [as in Charles] I would have gotten bored to. These people are not even smart, to easily manipulated. And its a wonder how Schnizial built that huge thing, with the Emperor not noticing.

Anywho, my predictions of next episode.



Schneizel is the shit <_<


 
09-07-08, 3:10 PM

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HNGNNNNNNNHHHHHHH

Kallen x Lelouch tiem.
 
09-07-08, 3:19 PM

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.....Starting to dislike this show with how things are heading....
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Of course Nunnally is still alive. But still, the whole concept of her opposing Lelouch and Suzaku is stupid. They ruined her character totally. It's a shame.

/Agreed
 
09-07-08, 3:31 PM

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correct me if i'am wrong but someone just doesnt go blind from trauma
I sure hope not, because if so, half of MAL will be needing a white cane after R2's final episode.
 
09-07-08, 3:36 PM

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.....Starting to dislike this show with how things are heading....
vindemon64 said:
Of course Nunnally is still alive. But still, the whole concept of her opposing Lelouch and Suzaku is stupid. They ruined her character totally. It's a shame.

/Agreed


She was tricked by Schneizel I believe.


 
09-07-08, 3:38 PM

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hmmm...this episode reminds me of 'CelestialBeing' with a different approach... :lol: did y'all get it?
Lulu wants the whole world to become his enemies with the goal of they (the world) cud unite as one!!!
juz my opinion though...dun bother it...
eventually this is also a nice episode for me to watch, i luv it when Lulu becomes EVIL!!!
XD
 
09-07-08, 3:39 PM

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Lelouch and Suzaku sure are looking FABULOUS.
 
09-07-08, 3:40 PM

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Lelouch and Suzaku sure are looking FABULOUS.
 
09-07-08, 3:46 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Just finished watching the stream. Can't say i'm surprised to see Nunnaly alive, but her declaring Lelouch and Suzaku as her enemies wasn't exactly how I was thinking it would go.

What did you guys think?
WTH!? .. seriously and she said that their now enemies...
 
09-07-08, 4:04 PM

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Well, this is quite an interesting episode I must say but it does depend on what themes we like or don't like that takes place in Episode 22.

-I don't think many people will argue that Nina is taken to a prison. XD

-For some reason, Lelouch is suddenly becoming ambitious so I'm not sure if this will bring harm to his character. Still, I somehow felt Lelouch is depressed towards turning his back to Kallen (who was important to him when taking part of the Black Knights), even though he suddenly became Emperor. It is hard to tell what his motives are at this point. I thought the beginning of the episode was interesting, when he made some changes within the country of Britannia especially the Numbers and Nobles scenario. An interesting motive of changing the country within Britannia.

-Battle scenario was a little weak in my mind, because it made the Knight of Rounds just pests to Emperor Lelouch. Still, I'm not going to argue Suzaku is a hell of a good pilot with the Lancelot. Lelouch certainly had his hands full with Suzaku when they were enemies back then.

-Anya (who is certainly the most interesting character in my mind from the Knight of Rounds) is still alive also. If she is, I wonder what will she be doing?

-C.C. is her usual self, but that is why I enjoy her character at times. :D

-I felt kind of bad for Kallen personally. The kiss scene between her and Lelouch was a nice scene in my mind though. Still, I'm trying to wonder if her feelings are really telling her to kill Lelouch. For some weird reason, I don't see that. I doubt a switch sides scenario will happen where Kallen ends up working with Lelouch again, but R2's complex story is very unpredictable at times.

-I was definitely not surprise Nunnally is alive, but I'm very shock that she declares Lelouch and Suzuka her enemies. Still when I look back in the early episodes of Code Geass R2, Nunnally wanted to have a world similar to what Princess Euphemia want. She just sees the ways of Lelouch being the wrong methods in bringing peace to the world.

-Three more episodes to go it seems. Despite the story being so complex, maybe we will get some nice settings and closure to end this series.







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The pathway has now become clear.
 
09-07-08, 4:06 PM

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I cried, and I couldn't stop.

` Lelouch x Kallen will NEVER exist now and I'm pretty much emo. They were definitely my favorite pairing out of this series. The kiss was great, but god Lulu-sama, at least chase after her. D: Can't you see that she loves you?

` Lulu-sama is definitely abusing his powers as emperor, which made me hate the ever loving crap out of this episode. At first I thought he would be okay as emperor, but forcing all the nobles to become slaves and commanding everybody with Geass is a little extreme.

` Nunnally being alive was a giant rip-off. I have nothing more to say about it... I just can't believe that she wants to be Lulu-sama's and Suzaku's enemy. Seriously, what the hell is she thinking?

` Suzaku kicks ass? I'd never thought I say it, but I think that I like Suzaku better than I like Lulu-sama right now. D: I love how Suzkau didn't have to lift a finger to defeat about five knights of rounds. Nice going~ <3

Sunrise can just go ahead and go shoot themselves for fucking up an amazing series. This better have a good ending or I might just become a recluse...

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thearchlich said:
Lelouch and Suzaku sure are looking FABULOUS.

I agree 100%. :3 Even though they piss me off, they're just sending off vibes of serious RAPEAGE. <3
 
09-07-08, 4:07 PM

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I don't think nana declaring herself an enemy to lulu and suzuka destroyed her character. She probably knows lulu is zero and she said herself that zero's way of doing this is wrong. It would make sense for her to stand by her principles than ignore them and join up with her evil brother. Lulu did just try to forcefully take over the world and killed Euphy and Clovis.
She's probably a tool being used because lulu or suzuka won't kill her and lulu's geass won't work on her, even if he could bring himself to use it on her. I'm interested to find out how she survived and who Sayoko is going to side with, lulu or nana?
 
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I don't know why everyone claims Nunnally has a Geass. Charles said it LOUD AND CLEAR that they made Nunnallly a witness to Marianne's death "but" made sure to cripple her so no one would question she was at the scene when the attack happened and so Nunnally herself couldn't remember nor do much about the matter. Meaning: Charles is the one behind her being crippled and blind.

Of course, I won't put it past this show to retcon things and throw some inane crap about Nunally having a Geass, but I won't believe it until it happens.

BTW, it's kinda ironic Suzaku's "Live on" Geass order it's now a sort of faux Geass power for him. I thought it was kinda neat how his "live on" order caused him to act in an unpredictable manner, hence allowing him to beat Bismarck. But I guess that's the lame part about the "read the future" kind of powers. He got his behind smacked good when he couldn't read him. Maybe he shouldn't have used the Geass in the first place and rather fought him fair and square. Would have lasted a bit more.

 
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