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Apr 3, 2012 12:33 AM
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finally.

again, worth waiting, but too short. one character is back, when more important is still missing. Hoshino, it's too long.
Apr 3, 2012 5:52 AM
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The COLOR page is AMAZING!!!xD Both the Volume and Color page have their own unique.
The chapter is great, having info on Link. The chapter is slow pace IMO though due to only focus on Link but at least I think his case settle(or almost settle) where we can process on the ...dream or memory?
The most probable case for the twin is Nea and Mana. But with Hoshino sensei, u never know until she reveals.
The last double spread page is simply STUNNING!!!xD I feel the Atmosphere.
Apr 3, 2012 12:44 PM
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The COLOR page is AMAZING!!!xD Both the Volume and Color page have their own unique.

sorry, can't agree with you. old style looked way better, and Allen look like Lag Seeing on chapter's cover.
Apr 3, 2012 3:33 PM
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So then, it appears this is the real Link after all. But I have to wonder, just where Apocryphos is then. Wasn't he on Allen's tail just a few chapters ago? I doubt he lost track of Allen so easily. All in all, it was a pretty decent chapter. And I'm already itching to see the next chapter.

It's amazing how this chapter seemed to make a bunch of Link fangirls just because he was shirtless in the beginning, haha~ Run, Link and Kanda! Fangirls are gonna start pairing you two together now~! x]

As for Volume 23 cover. It's alright; I love the details. However, I'm not a fan Kanda's orange colored coat. A lot of people seem to be happy that Hoshino changed to warmer colors - but I honestly think the cold colors might have been a little better for this cover. (Or perhaps a mixture of both...?)
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Apr 5, 2012 5:34 AM
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andrewsch5658 said:
The COLOR page is AMAZING!!!xD Both the Volume and Color page have their own unique.
The chapter is great, having info on Link. The chapter is slow pace IMO though due to only focus on Link but at least I think his case settle(or almost settle) where we can process on the ...dream or memory?
The most probable case for the twin is Nea and Mana. But with Hoshino sensei, u never know until she reveals.
The last double spread page is simply STUNNING!!!xD I feel the Atmosphere.


Yeah the last double spread was soooo good, but i wonder who that kid was. Maybe like u said it was Nea or Mana. So r we gonna see a flashback about them now. That would really be nice.

P.S am i the only one or did the art feel a little different this chapter?
Apr 5, 2012 5:46 AM
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andrewsch5658 said:
and Allen look like Lag Seeing on chapter's cover.


I'm 100% sure that it was on purpose. Hoshino and Asada are friends, and they've drawn each other's characters in the past.

And anyway, the color page WAS in Hoshino's old style. Look at the shading. It looks like it came straight off of volumes 15-17. Usually her color pages are more washed out and faded, like volume 23's cover. Allen's also back to looking feminine, which was the way he looked before the ark arc suddenly buffed him up.
Apr 5, 2012 6:39 AM
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Honestly, I'm lost, I read D.Gray-Man during last summer and I liked it a lot but now, the gap between chapters is so big and I have no idea what's going on anymore, pacing and story telling got worse or is it just me? I have to re-read the whole damn thing to understand the shit that's happening.

Since when and why the hell does Allen look like that?!
Apr 5, 2012 6:39 AM
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Barion-Zara said:
andrewsch5658 said:
The COLOR page is AMAZING!!!xD Both the Volume and Color page have their own unique.
The chapter is great, having info on Link. The chapter is slow pace IMO though due to only focus on Link but at least I think his case settle(or almost settle) where we can process on the ...dream or memory?
The most probable case for the twin is Nea and Mana. But with Hoshino sensei, u never know until she reveals.
The last double spread page is simply STUNNING!!!xD I feel the Atmosphere.


Yeah the last double spread was soooo good, but i wonder who that kid was. Maybe like u said it was Nea or Mana. So r we gonna see a flashback about them now. That would really be nice.

P.S am i the only one or did the art feel a little different this chapter?

Hopefully we get a flashback like you said.:)

I forgot to mention this, Link didn't mention Apo guy to Lvellie. I wonder if Link truly forgot what happened or is he hiding it?
Apr 5, 2012 7:10 AM
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Kind of confusing, kind of forgotten what was happening slightly. Does look like Link doesn't remember what happened exactly but we'll see.

Also might be a flashback by the looks of the last page. Still look forward to the next one.
Apr 5, 2012 7:45 AM

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Even though it was a bit slow, I enjoyed this chapter! At least it's now clear what happened with Link!
Apr 5, 2012 10:37 AM

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I think Link remembers everything quite clearly; look one more time at his face when he told Lveille he didn't see Apo. He obviously lied. ; )
Apr 5, 2012 10:40 AM

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I guess next is Mana and Neah's childhood arc. I wanna learn that song's history...


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Your story shall be full of blessings. ━Let only those without sin pass. "Garden of Avalon"!
Apr 5, 2012 10:59 AM

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Zhou said:
Honestly, I'm lost, I read D.Gray-Man during last summer and I liked it a lot but now, the gap between chapters is so big and I have no idea what's going on anymore, pacing and story telling got worse or is it just me? I have to re-read the whole damn thing to understand the shit that's happening.

Since when and why the hell does Allen look like that?!


Nope, not the only one.
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Apr 5, 2012 11:28 AM

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I've just reread the whole manga and I don't find pacing bad at all. Gaps suck though.
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I like that Link is not telling whats his face everything. I hope Road comes back to see Allen soon... where exactly is she anyway. I remember the golden flying thingy take her but what happened after that. Is she still in there?
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She disappeared. Literally.
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Too much Link Fan Service -_-
Apr 5, 2012 5:30 PM
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Zhou said:
Honestly, I'm lost, I read D.Gray-Man during last summer and I liked it a lot but now, the gap between chapters is so big and I have no idea what's going on anymore, pacing and story telling got worse or is it just me? I have to re-read the whole damn thing to understand the shit that's happening.

Since when and why the hell does Allen look like that?!


We've been hearing this every month since 2009. It's starting to get annoying. Yes, you're going to have no clue what's going on if you don't reread the manga. The pacing seems off because it's monthly (and there was a two month gap this time, which makes it even more confusing). The story telling is fine - in fact it's a lot more coherent than it was in the beginning. And yes, you have to reread the whole thing. That's the point. You can't expect to know what's going on every month without reviewing the manga beforehand.
Apr 5, 2012 7:52 PM

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I just realized something - Didn't Hoshino do a three month time skip right before Kanda re-appeared (in chapter 207)? But Zu told Link he's only been asleep for 20 days in this chapter...? That can't be right, since Link was supposedly "killed" when Allen made his escape from the Order - which was before the three month time skip. Does that mean Link was actually dead for nearly two months before Zu was actually able to "revive/save" him?
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First off, I'm very sad that there are still no Lavi in this chapter. But, oh well, I guess it's kinda understandable. Hoshino said that she'd be focusing on Lavi's story next anyway.

And to some statements above, I think the art changed. Is Hoshino the one who's drawing this one? Kanda looked quite derpy. The only thing that looked the same for me was the last page, with Mana (assuming it is Mana, or maybe Neah). And yes, Allen looked terrible on the front cover. Link looked pretty awesome though.

-- And as an Allen Walker-sexual, I am not amused. Link might go 2nd in my bias list if Lavi still don't show up. >__>

The pace is just good, though yea, I had to re-read to be able to understand it better. I still don't get a lot of stuffs though, and just like ModifiedxAkuma said, I don't get the 20 days 3 month time skip crap. I am going to assume that when he got "killed", he woke up 20 days after, and went searching for Allen for 3 months already... or something..?

And just who is the heart. I don't get you at all, apocrapper. And what's with your hairstyle, Lvellier. OR whatever your name is srsly spelled.

Seeing Link with his hair laid down... *sighs dreamily*
Though your body ain't that built, eh. XD.

-> And just who the heck is the old guy talking to. "Turning in to the 14th" one crap? What? //Idon'tGetIt

Lastly, where is apocrapper. Isn't he trailing Allen just like, few pages ago. ._______.
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Apr 6, 2012 3:52 AM
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True, the art changed quite a bit but I`m always happy about a new chapter ;P
I`m so looking forward to the next one!!

But one thing bothers me (except the missing of Lavi again -_-): What?! Kanda`s the one who will kill Allen?! o.O
Apr 6, 2012 5:14 AM

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Well, he awakened The 14th in him after all. What a responsible guy. ;p
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I am going to assume that when he got "killed", he woke up 20 days after, and went searching for Allen for 3 months already... or something..?


Ah, that makes more sense. I think that's the only way it could make sense.
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First off, I'm very sad that there are still no Lavi in this chapter. But, oh well, I guess it's kinda understandable. Hoshino said that she'd be focusing on Lavi's story next anyway.

And to some statements above, I think the art changed. Is Hoshino the one who's drawing this one? Kanda looked quite derpy. The only thing that looked the same for me was the last page, with Mana (assuming it is Mana, or maybe Neah). And yes, Allen looked terrible on the front cover. Link looked pretty awesome though.

-- And as an Allen Walker-sexual, I am not amused. Link might go 2nd in my bias list if Lavi still don't show up. >__>

The pace is just good, though yea, I had to re-read to be able to understand it better. I still don't get a lot of stuffs though, and just like ModifiedxAkuma said, I don't get the 20 days 3 month time skip crap. I am going to assume that when he got "killed", he woke up 20 days after, and went searching for Allen for 3 months already... or something..?

And just who is the heart. I don't get you at all, apocrapper. And what's with your hairstyle, Lvellier. OR whatever your name is srsly spelled.

Seeing Link with his hair laid down... *sighs dreamily*
Though your body ain't that built, eh. XD.

-> And just who the heck is the old guy talking to. "Turning in to the 14th" one crap? What? //Idon'tGetIt

Lastly, where is apocrapper. Isn't he trailing Allen just like, few pages ago. ._______.


Wait Allen Walker is Sexual? i know he is a stripper but i still dont understand what you mean by sexual? Anyway I Agree TOTALLY AGREE!! Hoshino's Art manga changed it looks different. Dont get me wrong though, i still love it! ALLEN LOOKS CUTE but SUPER DIFFERENT! ITS NICE THOUGH! BUT HER OLD DRAWING FOR THE ONE!
Apr 7, 2012 7:34 AM

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:O So much Link, I feel like he's changing and I like it. But I don't quite trust him.

& I'm not sure if I just misread it but, what did Zhu mean when he said:
I had wanted to save you, but...
Instead, I turned you into "the fourteenth".

Was he really talking to Link or was he referring to something else?

Hm, I'm excited about the nest chapter.
& I really liked seeing Allen dressed like Lag Seeing the beginning; cute! c:

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I'm just glad that Link's still on the Allen's side, as far as I can see. I wonder if Fourteenth would reallyy help Leverrier win the war like thinks.
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ModifiedxAkuma said:
I just realized something - Didn't Hoshino do a three month time skip right before Kanda re-appeared (in chapter 207)? But Zu told Link he's only been asleep for 20 days in this chapter...? That can't be right, since Link was supposedly "killed" when Allen made his escape from the Order - which was before the three month time skip. Does that mean Link was actually dead for nearly two months before Zu was actually able to "revive/save" him?


No, that scene when Link woke up, was a flashback. Meaning, Link woke up 2-3 months ago (20 days after he supposedly died) and now he's finally found (or has been following the whole time) Allen.
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Wow after the 2 month break on my first reading I was completely lost lol.

I was like "wtf now Link was turned into the 14th?" then I realized Zu was kinda out of it and most likely talking about Allen. So he's probably the one who implanted Nea into Allen and made him the 14th using this "Atuuda" magic that disrupts the natural order of life. It also seems that he did it on Lvellie's orders.
Apr 10, 2012 9:18 AM

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I think those twins babies are either Neah and Mana young and their mother was singing to them or it's Neah's family.
That's what I think,too short Hoshino!! I want atleast more than 30 pages!!

What do you mean kanda will kill Allen!??
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Back to the cover art, this may be a stupid question, but what is the large white whale/cloud/blob to the left of allen. It looks as though it has weird fin things a jaw.
Am I overlooking something entirely obvious due to forgetting parts of the story, or is this something yet to be introduced?
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Back to the cover art, this may be a stupid question, but what is the large white whale/cloud/blob to the left of allen. It looks as though it has weird fin things a jaw.
Am I overlooking something entirely obvious due to forgetting parts of the story, or is this something yet to be introduced?


That's Atuuda, the technique used to revive Link (it's somewhere near the middle of the chapter).


As for the art style of Hoshino, I agree that her old style looked a lot better but her new style has a few good points too. I find that it makes surprised and threatening expressions look well, more surprising and threatening and it also makes children look a bit more innocent in a way but yeah, most of the main characters look really weird now. :|

The last panel is most likely the 14th's memory, the panel before with the picture of Allen suggests it, anyhow. And if it's the 14ths memory then it's mostly likely Mana we're looking at (because it's the 14th's memory so we're probs looking through the eyes of Nea) he shares some similarities w/ the 14th and they're twins (refer to previous chapters for what the 14th looked like)

@Aeropop, I'm confused with that too @-@
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A half chapter full of Link plus him shirtless. I'm loving this.

Seems like some questions were answered like Link was really Link and the Apo could be roaming around. The art is okay (Link is steaming hot in his jeans) and the backgrounds were superb, but I have to argree Allen looked kinda (slightly) weird on the cover page (it's the eyes. The eyes *sobs*)

I did notice lots of eye changes for Link and lots of lying going on > >

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I forgot to mention this, Link didn't mention Apo guy to Lvellie. I wonder if Link truly forgot what happened or is he hiding it?


Hmm it could be possible that he still remembers it (like his dream), he could still have the memories but it's muddled up in his mind :P

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I was like "wtf now Link was turned into the 14th?" then I realized Zu was kinda out of it and most likely talking about Allen. So he's probably the one who implanted Nea into Allen and made him the 14th using this "Atuuda" magic that disrupts the natural order of life. It also seems that he did it on Lvellie's orders.


That makes sense, I just thought he was going to continue on saying something because Hilter dude walked in interrupting their conversation.

Overall chapter let me sigh with relief. The questions are over, now I'm bubblying with extitment over Neah's and Mana's story. It didn't say anything about a break so May it is *sighs happily*
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Next chapter's most probably gonna be about Mana and Nea. Good. There's not enough info about them. The manga's getting real good now. And can we be expecting a chapter for May?
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So Link is still alive! Allen will be happy about it. :)The little boy at the last page makes me want to read the next chapter already~may be someone related to Mana or the Fourteeth.

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Apr 23, 2012 3:39 PM

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So Link basically did come back from the dead. I wonder where his "killer" is lurking at the moment though...
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So Link basically did come back from the dead. I wonder where his "killer" is lurking at the moment though...

I sense an appearance from Apo soon. Anyone else with me?
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I thought Master Zu was already dying.

So...Mana and Nea were twins? Or was that Allen's long lost twin brother? Haha at the latter.
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Interesting chapter, finally caught up to this chapter from when the anime ended.
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Hitler is blonde now, he must be happy.
He wants to control the 14th, what a loser.

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