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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
222 69.38%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
64 20.00%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
13 4.06%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
12 3.75%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
9 2.81%
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03-25-12, 8:14 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This episode was amazing in terms of Yuki x Yuno development but after the mindfuck of last episode it was kind of hard to sympathize. At least I have to come accept the fact for me that the manga portrayed things rather more emotionally than a mindfucking. For example in the last episode while the manga gave a feel of just protection the anime succeed in the coined term “MINDFUCK” literally and this episode did the same for me. A rather deep dark obscure shit with Murmur and that no doubt applies to the development of this episode in other elements too.

About Murmur, I swear to you all in all of the manga one scene whom is the following,

It took me to creep out all the creepiness I accumulated of Murmur since the start. Add to that her faces in the spoiler
and that is creepy to the max. Murmur was sick as shit with her personality there. Poor poor Deus all gone here and his poor poor core. So I was wondering what Murmur here wanted with it? As I see her put the crown in the spoiler
I assume that she is to be another Deus. If that is so then she could not even be of this time and like Deus suspected her of manipulating stuff around to be true. In fact I bet some shit happened in the past and or future and she wants to fix that shit cause she does not like it. It is no doubt that Murmur with a smile like here is devious and cunning to being up to something. In fact her being able to bring Yuki into the past and through portals in the spoiler
can mean nothing else than her having powers on par with Deus to say the least.


I find totally the setup and decor with Murmur in the spoiler
to be excellent! Well exceeding the manga depiction by far and feel. It impressed with a lot.

Despite that fan service aplenty of Yuno in the spoiler
from swimsuit to being naked to red underwear/bra set? Really? Well that makes her fans happy now.

About what I hate of Yuno more than anything. Quite simply the following part,

That my friends is called A BETRAYAL OF A LOVED ONE! The proof is in the spoiler
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU YUNO! I HATE YOU MORE THAN EVER! I will leave the RAGE at that. To explain in short. Yuki trusted Yuno to kill herself with him. He took her virginity. He gave all he had for all the trust he had for her. WTF does she do? She betrays him by faking her own death! BITCH! That’s lame! I know very well of her character but that is too low even for Yanderes. Yuno got too full of her pride. It’s like “Oh Dear you are God and can do anything now except we forgot to tell you that you can’t bring souls back from a dead body. We are sorry. Thank you for playing the game.” I am sure Yuno was totally WTF? Specifically in the spoiler
STUPID GIRL! She though she could do anything she wants with Deus’s powers while they are really limited in the soul department. Deus is only powerful in Space/Time powers. Not other ones. Suffice to say that this is what made me in the Manga never to forgive Yuno! I cannot forgive this to her. Sorry.

About the gore, it was excellent in the spoiler
minus the coloring. Well the pool of the blood was good. The amount and puddle. The hands and effect it showed out. Pretty sick shit. I got more affected than the manga despite being less censored at that part. I really got more affected at the writing of Normal Yuno + The BGM along with tears helped the scene a lot.

Manga VS Anime differences


There were some stuff taken out that totally FUCKED up some scenes cause the effect of the faces was something that made the part good for example. The list says more.
  • Obvious censoring in the spoiler
    of Akise’s severed head. That’s normal due to censorship laws there. Blood-C had the same problem. Yet I am surprised of Another being cool with it. Maybe cause it is recognized being a Horror.

  • Uncensored scenes of Yuno/Yuki sex scenes in the spoilerI hope they make the breasts and nipples as good as in the manga. Colors from what I have seen in the BDs look OK. Remains to see in what shape it will come out as. Minene so far was HOT in her ecchi rendition to say the least.

  • When Yuno was about to hit with the ax Yukki, well the problem is that her face was better in the spoiler
    100% sure! It was like when she faced Yuki’s father and looked him with a insane look. Too bad. That face could have been good.

  • They fucked up times 1000! I present you the TRUTH of Akise’s message in the spoiler
    which was not shown in the episode properly like this.
    It would have explained loads of things. Guess maybe next episode. I hope so but it should have been in this episode.

  • Yukki’s face slash in the spoiler
    had a better presentation in the manga than in the anime. Although more graphical in the anime. I though the way the angle panned out was better in the manga.

  • Yuno’s face was EPIC OVER 9000 in the spoiler
    after she faked taking the pills. Holy Crap they should have made the face like that! DAMN! Shame on that.

  • Same shit for Yuki’s face in the spoiler
    THAT IS A FUCKED UP FACE! That is how one should look after taking pills like that. The bleeding out was good but that face was better! They should have done! Pity it was not.

  • Obvious censoring of the gore from the manga in the spoiler
    it looked more gross for some reason. Not sure why.
Well that pretty much IMO what was missed out.

Regardless excellent visuals and settings. With this getting to a close end, the story continues to be poignant in its setup designs and emotions. To the extend of being excellent in THE MINDFUCK. Something the manga was less so IMO now that I think about it.

BTW Image Stitches done in the spoiler
some nice ones of Yuno and Yuki.

GIFs with Signatures are done in the club:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=418261
Of course more Yuno for the fans.
Modified by Yumekichi11, 03-25-12, 10:58 PM

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03-25-12, 8:36 AM

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It was an okay episode. One or two original scenes, ended where I expected it to. One of the scenes screams 'buy the blurays' but I'm glad they didn't cut it or something. What bothered me is that several faces were drawn in a weird way and their necks are as long as ever at times. Also, they can't decide on Yuno's sizes, seriously.

Everything so far suggests that this will be a 1:1 adaptation till the very end. Too bad.
 
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03-25-12, 9:59 AM

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Oo! The latest episode.

Looks like the fucking apocalypse is coming and Yuno still only cares about one thing: July 28th - the Happy Ending a.k.a Sex.

Yuno also seems to show a more vulnerable side of her, kinda feel sorry for her.

It is noticeable that Yuno called Yuki "Amano-kun" during a short clip this episode. It is very likely that this may be the other Yuno.

Well, this episode finally...Yuki decided to take the step forward after 22 fucking episodes:



Yuki also makes the biggest mistake of his short and little life by saying what he's not supposed to so:



And cold truth revealed:


Poor Yuno from current world :((

Incredible episode. 5/5


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03-25-12, 10:48 AM

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IDK why, even though i never read the manga, i kinda guessed that 'this' would happen (the whole situation with Yuno and all), i think they give too much clues LOL

love the episode overall: good development between Yukki and Yuno
THREE MORE EPISODES!!! THEN MAYBE I'LL STUMBLE UPON THE MANGA.

oh, and i too noticed that the art in this ep was a bit awkward :/
 
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03-25-12, 11:45 AM

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Thy have more than enough time for last chapters. I'm a bit disappointed about sex scene censoring but at least they won't cut it.
 
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03-25-12, 1:59 PM

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They are doing a fine job of animating this part but if they are not carful it's going to drag out. Not much more left in terms of manga material to cover. Nice Yuno x Yuki, can't wait for the wtf moments ahead.
 
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Stark700 said:
Reserved post. Will post my thoughts on this later today.

Is being on the first page of post that important? Why not just post once you have seen it.
 
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03-25-12, 2:47 PM

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I'm not a fan of this episode. The slow pace is terrible compared to the last couple of episodes, and filler at this point is unnecessary. I also hated how they tried to make Yuno seem more sympathetic. In the manga she was a cold-hearted killer who wanted to kill Yuki, period.
 
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03-25-12, 5:04 PM

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One down, three to go.
 
03-25-12, 6:23 PM

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That was insanely intense. I finally understand the two Yuno thing (read it from a spoiler back when they still had the 1st OP and someone posted it in the YouTube comments). Well, well, wellie well well. Looks like Akise was right all along. Very smart of him to come to that conclusion, though. I would've never guessed if I had not been spoiled already.

I don't get why Yukiteru was making such a deal out of Yuno killing the other Yuno because they're basically the same person, the 1st Yuno just had more "life experience". Didn't the 2nd Yuno kill her parents already? And Yukiteru was saying how "omg Yuno killed the Yuno that confessed to me" but I'm pretty sure the 1st Yuno confessed to you too...

You know what's weird - aren't they like 14 or something? They had sex. Well then... Not saying it's a bad thing, especially since the world is ending, but still.

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Stark700 said:
Reserved post. Will post my thoughts on this later today.


Yeah, what's the deal, bro? I hate it when I see "reserved posts". There is nothing big or exciting about posting on the first page. It's not like it's the Naruto subforum or anything, and even then it's stupid.
 
03-25-12, 6:33 PM

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Wowsers. That was amazing.

I don't understand why Yuki is so upset with Yuno now. They are the exact same person with the exact same history... looks like he will go back to me absolutely hating him.

Wonder how they are going to do the last three episodes. Seems like it should be over by the next.

And what is this that was shown after the end credits?
 
03-25-12, 6:35 PM

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Good episode,the truth at last.

The adaptation was pretty good this episode,they added some extra scenes but besides that was good.I approve!


The first half good YunoxYukki time this were more extra scenes were added but they were ok,i am glad they didn't cut the sex scene at least one thing to look forward for BD's....O YA!!!

Then....The scene revealing the truth kinda feel a little short in emotion maybe because i already knew it wasnt that impact but still feel kinda dull,after that i really enjoy Mur Mur showing Yukki the past scenes,that was well adapted and i really enjoy it.

The scene with second Yuno was great specially when she right Help me....poor Second Yuno


Then the last scene was great,showing Yukki rage and Yuno face was totally different sooo much mature and cold...just like God.

Next episode last arc begins and....shit will get real,CANT WAIT!!!
 
03-25-12, 6:40 PM

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That's it Yuno show no mercy..not even to yourself.....

Does that mean that technically Yuno committed suicide?

Can't wait to see how they animate the last arc.

After the credits, wtf? That must be a troll by the subs or something.
 
03-25-12, 6:45 PM

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wow that was something, ever really expected this to happen.
three to go : D~~!
 
03-25-12, 6:58 PM

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Silly Yukiteru, so easily misled. I like how he's crying over the second Yuno when she could just as easily become as batshit insane as the first. But with enough intervention,


Lol at "reserved posts." Being on the first page of a forum thread must be some srs biz.
 
03-25-12, 7:01 PM

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Three episodes to go, can't wait to see what the resolution is. I wonder who solves this, Yuki or Yuno?
In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth......rodac

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03-25-12, 7:30 PM

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So glad they explained what was up so I can decide between a 9 and a 10
Would have been awful mad if they left out this part because it helps transition into the end very nicely.

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03-25-12, 7:34 PM
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That axe.... where did it come from lol.
 
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Wow that explains the whole third corpse thing and I was way off the mark. I thought Yuno had a twin sister or something like that that had been hidden. I could never have predicted that she had won previously and came back in time to kill her past self.

Oh well Yukki looked pissed, I'm interested to see the showdown between the two as I cant help but feel it will be epic.

I knew when he was having sex with her that things were gonna go south after that as I always noticed Yuno's diary never went beyond that which implied that Yukki did nothing more after that...so essentially he would die.


 
03-25-12, 7:39 PM

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It was an okay episode; the art was weird and the pacing too....and the truth didn't have that much of an impact on me. They could have done it better.

3/5
 
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