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Just watched it (hated it at episode 20, but then you know haha) and FML! I hate this feeling of finishing a series :(
Nevertheless, it was a top notched series, also loved it how they finally kiss.
Oh and haha didn't you love it when they started playing the first OP?
If there will ever be a sequel (probably not) it'll revolve around uhh that baby!
Oh well, Sayonara Shana and Yuji, you two have entertained me for a week

So at last it comes to an end. I have to say this episode was quite humerus when shana Said "why didn't you say that from the begging" LOL. Which brings to question what was the purpose of the war then? Finally the new being that was spoken by from the oracle god was Johan's and Phele's child. I agree with many people in that the whole purpose behind the 4 gods of the motherland was just to fight the tomagara, they really didn't serve any other purpose.

Finally Sydonay meets his end in a climatic battle against shana and Margery, i have to say that battle intense and pretty crazy. He can finally stay with his beloved priestess Hacate.


Now the god of creation, also known as Serie no hebie left to go the new world with the tomagara and the only reason i know that is from reading the MAL characters profiles, but i never once heard that name mentioned in the series. Kind of strange.

The battle between shana and yuji was pretty insane to. If my eyes were not deceiving me did shana like learn a new spell already in that midst of that final battle. She just seemed so much more bad ass that she has ever been before. It appears she was able to finally control the power of the god of destruction to its full extent.

Maybe im missing a few things that other people caught, i don't know, but its just hard to keep interest in a show when they reveal so many things at once, characters, story and its like mind overload.

Their was alot of confusing elements to this series that could of been explored, ive never really read the novels my self, i hear alot of you saying that this season was actually the best adapted season from JC. Regardless though if it was JC's fault that they didn't adapt season 1 and 2, its like having a HUGE gap in between the seasons, which ultimately makes season 3 seem very confusing.


But i'll tell you this is the most confusing, rushed, convoluted plot ive ever seen.

This series has a great concept great core story and everything, but they could of easily make the last season 60 episodes or so to really explain all the elements of the story and the characters.

I mean in the first 2 seasons, its best to forget season 3 never even existed lol. Its so rushed, thats mind boggling impossible for some one with an IQ of 200 to grasp wtf is going on.

Yeah it has some of the best animation, best action sequences form all 3 seasons for sure. But even the attacks and the concepts behind the different flame haze powers are not even explained, its like its all jammed into your head.

Honestly this is one show i am deffinitly going to have to read the novels , but it will be a while cause they have not translated them all yet. But i can see how a series like this would be excellent, regarding how many characters are involved and the core plot, but the way it was executed in season 3 was downright horrible, either that or like everyone says, JC' staffs poor execution of season 1 and 2 were bad, creating so much confusion when you finally hit season 3.


Anyways it was a long haul to finish this. But i am pretty disappointed that one of my favorite franchises was kind of ruined due to this final season.
5/10

It isn't necessary to spoil tag that, but yeah i agree i am one of those people that had a very hard time trying to grasp what was going on. Although at this point you can't really draw a line between evil and good cause their really isn't the tomagara have thier reasoning's for good and also the flame haze do as well. So thier really is no evil in this show even though it seems like it. But it kind of made no sence to me, for yuji' ideals of creating a world for the tomagara to live in peace and then shana's prevention of creating the world and then finally both sides agree, you have to ask what was the damn point of th entire war then. Thats kind of how i felt to at the very end, perhaps some one with more knowledge from the novels can help shed more light on the subject.

i really liked the ending but it didnt make complete sence to me regardless 5/5

Sakai Yuji was a human before all this started. He had family, friends, school, life and ambitions. Shana, a flame haze appears in front of him and they spend a couple of years (what 4 or 5 years together?) together. After everything was wrapped up, and everyone went to Xanadu, why did he choose to go to Xanadu with her??

He basically choose for his parents, and friends to forget that he ever existed. Near the end, when Shana and Yuji kiss, Yoshida Kazumi is just IGNORED. WOW! Kazumi and Shana compete for Sakai's heart, in almost all of season 2 and part of season 1. It was very disappointing to see her alone.

That was just wrong. A more fulfilling ending would have been for them to stay in Misaki city (like how Margery Daw stayed behind), that way, life would have continued normally and Kazumi would have also been given a fair chance. (I know Ike-kun showed some interest in Kazumi, but it still doesn't seem right for her to be cut off like that).

If not that, he should have stayed back for his parent's sake. Think about it. They raised him for so many years, they taught and helped him, and were kind parents. Now I agree that his parents had a baby girl, but STILL! Loosing a son and not even knowing about it, that's terrible!

Ike-kun, Ogata-chan, and everyone else from Misaki High, wouldn't know Shana and Yuji even existed.

That's why I completely disagree with the ending. It could have definitely been better!
Some other points that I read from other members that I agree on:-
- Final fight between Yuji and Shana. Very one-sided. They made Yuji look very weak. He didn't change in strength at all in the series, still being defeated by Shana. a.k.a what changed?
- 20+ episodes of NONSENSE fighting! Shana disagrees about making Xanadu, and then finally agrees and goes TO XANADU with Yuji.....pfft....lame.

Please don't get me wrong. I LOVED season 1, 2 as well as the OVA (Shakugan no Shana S), but Season 3 was plain wrong. It could have been done a lot better. I am very disappointed by Shakugan no Shana Final. It didn't provide much closure.

If you're still with me, thank you for reading! Just stating my opinions on the final season and final episode of Shakugan no Shana. Agree with me? Disagree with me? Let me know! I hope you guys have an awesome day!

He was human, but he is not anymore. And he isn't aging (so is Shana). I think it'll be more painful for him and others if he stay in real world.


Basically Yoshida lost in episode 4 when Yuji kidnapped Shana (also in episode 3 it was said that he is in love with Shana).


God of Creation and his powers/knowledge left him. Without it he is no match for Shana.

lol.. what a meaningless war.. 20ep of war but in the end the resolve is simple.. they just let us confuse a lot of thing..

very satisfying, its all about communication just talk it out when something is uncleared ^^ hahaha
anyway, good ending it was a long road
I couldn't ask for more I don't feel incomplete by it so all good !
Shana overall (S1 to S3) : 9/10

dont compare master lulu to that yuji.. yujis plan can be done by simple diplomat and why it came to a senseless war(as what shana said if he could just said it from the beginning..) ?? which means his tactical strategy is far from master lulu.. all hail lelouch..

from the beginning of the season they show us that tomogara are a bad guys but in the end of the season looks like they are the good guys and the flame haze are the bad ones because of stopping yuji's plan..

season 3 was confusing... though the end made some things clear. Anyway, does anyone else here care about the death of kashim? he was like my fav char, and they exactly made him die -.- ahh this feeling... no more sns ever.. T_T

I have several reasons to disagree with this post. But before that, let me say my opinion on Sakai Yuji, He was about to make it to my Top Idiots and Most Hated List, and that includes Suzaku from Code Geass. In the end, he redeemed himself by staying with Shana.

Now, to get on to the main part of the post.

1. Sakai Yuji did not decide to "Go with her." Yuji wanted to go to the new world in the first place, to persuade the Flame Haze, Tomogara, and Humans to co-exist with eachother. Yuji only accepted Shana as a companion after their whole lovers battle and confession.

2. Kazumi, a fair chance? It was decided in Season 2, she never had a fair chance at the point of Season 3. Season 2 already pointed out that Yuji chose Shana rather than Kazumi.

3. He accepted his fate, and that was it. Even though the feeling of being forgotten by your parents is one of the most scariest things ever, Yuji still excepted that. Staying close to his "original" parents would have just made Yuji's life harder and harder. And interacting with Misaki City as a whole makes it even more harder for Yuji. Besides that, Yuji had another mission, and that was to forsee the co-existence of the 3 Species, not to mention their was also the Heir of the 2 Worlds to look after.

4. YUJI WAS WEAK AT THE START! If he never had the confidence to tell the truth to Shana, then you could tell he was weak. Compare Yuji to Saito, and Saito's even more stronger than Yuji. In fact, if Yuji never had such strong ambitions and the aid of the God of Creation he would have already failed.

5. The Flame Haze only disagreed with the New World because (a. There was a past rumor on what such an event caused) and (b. They then learned that the actual cause of such the drastic event was the unbalance of the world because the power of the existence were turned into unstable energy sources. The Flame Haze then agreed with the New World as long as no humans were killed for energy. And the Tomogara agreed because their was an infinite energy source in the world so they could live forever without getting energy from Humans. The War was necessary to realize this, not to mention the appearence of the Guiding God and the birth of the Heir of the 2 Worlds were two important factors. Without Kazumi's involvement in this War, the Heir would never have been born, the Guiding God would have never appeared, and the God of Creation would have used all his power so that the new world would allow the eating of humans.

After reading all of the comments these are the opinions I have formed. And that was my reply to your post. Now I would like to say my goodbyes to this Series.

First of all, I loved Shana, First, because she was one of the 4 Great Tsundere Wonders, second, her x3 Urasai was one of the most cutest besides when Aria Holmes said Urasai, and Third, she is indeniably Moe when she eats Melon Cake.
After Taiga, Shana happens to be one of my favorited character of all times, and it's sad to see such a great girl and series go.
I would also like to thank J.C. Staff, the studio that created the 4 Tsundere Wonders, managed to regain their reputation after creating past failures of anime.
That said, I think J.C. Staff was probably one of the only Studios that could ever bring Shana to what she is now.
And to this, my Final Goodbye to such a good series.
You will be missed, Shakugan no Shana, and will be one great prime example for future animes and Tsunderes until another takes your place.
Forever a Fanboy.

-Myself

They actually managed to give it a nice ending, after that convoluted story and that war..

There were a lot of stupid scenes, especailly about this war, but it does make sense mostly. The people saying they should have talked are right, it would have solved in 5 minutes if they would have talked and agreed on that simple rule so to say, but it wasn't possible, at least for Tomogora and Flame Haze.

The biggest chance of solving this peacefully would have been Yuji convincing Shana, and she convinces the other Flame Haze. I am sure that if not only Shana, but the God of Atonment, Alastor, agree on it, the other Flame Haze would seriously think about accepting it.

Shana could have easily explained it to the old nun, and if she agreed, the others would so, too. The obscure HQ (we never were told who actually is leading them, they only ever speak of "HQ", but not of persons or at least the actual form of government) maybe not, but it's not like they care about what HQ thinks.

It had to be this way because Yuji didn't want to take the risk of Shana not agreeing. Some scenes like Yuji/the snake explaining "there is no need to fight, there never was" and stuff like that while his Tomogora butcher the retreating Flame Haze are amazingly stupid, but generally, the war made sense.

Shahers role was a bit weird. It was important for the story if her broadcast was what made the Tomogora accept the rule to not it humans, and it might play a role in the future, about accepting the child of Johann and Pheles, but besides this, it's not much. A bit weird to have a character always around (Rofocale) and introducing a full blown Crimson God only for this.

Also interesting how the Yoshida hate ebbed over time, especially in the late episodes of Season 3, despite nothing having changed. I liked her all the time.

Oh, and when the ending song started to play, i was near tears. It's simply beatiful, fit the scene, and the ending was kinda sad, despite Yuji and Shana finally being together and the new world being safe.

Brilliant ending!!

I was so happy when they finally got together!

Will probably expand on my thoughts later, it's 4am, just one question; now that Yuji is no longer a torch, does that mean he only has a human's life - say another 70 years- left?

season 1 and 2 were both 8 for me but this? Clear 10, perfect plot twist, perfect battles, perfect ending.

I'd been holding this off for awhile and SnS is one of the shows that got me into anime... but wow this season is just really bad 1-2-3 it went into a descending order really quick oh well I guess I

I really loved the ending, well, at least that much how I could love an ending which ends my favourite season forever T.T

But anyway, I don't get why this war is considered "meaningless". I mean, the original plan of Xanadu, without this "Tomogara may not eat humans"-thingy wouldn't have been accepted by the Flame Hazes, would it? I consider it meaningless from the point that the Tomogara accept this change, but before that it all makes perfect sense to me. Also why Yuji leaves human world - I guess it's just not possible for him and Shana to live in this world normally. I mean, Shana is immortal and stuff...

Very very nice ending. Really gonna miss this show.. Shana forever

Great ending, middle was little hard to follow at times, for me. Didn't enjoy it as much as the 1st season though

7/10

Just finished watching the series and I think it was great! Yuji turning into a bad guy really made a twist to the story, I think it was a unique plot.

What I don't understand is why so many people keep saying the fights were unnecessary and pointless.. I also thought they were unnecessary but not pointless. Not everything can be settled with talks and compromise especially when one or both party is stubborn.

If Yuji just explained everything in the beginning then everything would have been ok, but if he did that then that wouldn't have been Sakai Yuji cause that wasn't his personality.

Though I have to agree that the whole season was mostly battles, anyone who does not enjoy watching war movies or shows that involved in depth strategic planning of war would get bored.

For the final fight I thought it was just hilarious. It just one big lovers quarrel. Shana won because shana was pissed, Yuji lost the god of creation, and Yuji wasn't fighting seriously.

Again I thought it was a great ending. Though I wish there was more. There's so much more they could do with it. I want to see Xanadu, with the tomogara's, flame haze's and humans living together.I want to see how Yuji is going to make that happen. Etc.

thank god this thing ended, this series went downhill after the first season.

and this by far was the worst, they tried to put everything into 24 episodes and that's not enough, and obviously the result was a complete mess.

still, I'll miss this anime