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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
104 21.40%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
44 9.05%
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03-17-12, 8:38 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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what??? to be continued?


hmmm.....anyway, i disagree with that ending(2/5)
however, tsukihi X Koyomi kiss ....+1
so 3/5
 
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03-17-12, 9:39 AM

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Another two hour blog entry from that, anyhow, really enjoyed the season. Hopefully more of the light novels get animated. They should release a fan-service episode on the blu-ray revolving around Koyomi and Senjougahara though.
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03-17-12, 9:58 AM

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Teen Shinobu is really hot, actually Shinobu in any age/size is hot. Btw i still cant believe they manage to end the arc with this episode when Tsukihi only made minimum appearance throughout her arc.

Well im guessing the "continue" either means an extra in the blu ray or the Nekomonogatari. Still cant wait, and i seriously mean CANT WAIT for Shaft to animate the rest of the monogatari series. Wonder how many years that is gonna take, but i'll wait patiently.
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03-17-12, 10:01 AM

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The fight was pretty awesome, and Shinobu was so hot as a grown-up.
 
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03-17-12, 10:02 AM

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Wow. Awesome ending. Who was that at the end, though? Hitagi with cut hair?

P.S. -- do they mean to be continued as in "continued in Neko" or "more episodes like Bake."

ArcanaTrace said:
Teen Shinobu is really hot, actually Shinobu in any age/size is hot. Btw i still cant believe they manage to end the arc with this episode when Tsukihi only made minimum appearance throughout her arc.


I'm not really sure where she would have fit in? I mean, she couldn't fight...I think it was perfect, honestly.
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03-17-12, 10:06 AM

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great episode, it was very heart-warming; Arararagi was epic (even though he got OWND!) May have liked it if there were more action scenes, but hey! There was a lot of blood AND shinobu had a 'laugh'; what more to ask for!
Loved this series and i can't wait for Kizumonogatari!!! XD
 
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03-17-12, 10:08 AM

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Maybe it says to be continued because there are more -monogatari books that have yet to be animated.

Anyways, great episode the fight between kagenuei and Araragi was awesome though I do wish we could have seen grown up Shinobu fight, I guess I'll have to wait for Kizumonogatari for that. I also found it funny when Araragi found out that Kaiki was the one who told them about Tsukihi. And I loved Araragi's speech on how Tsukihi was his sister. 5/5 for the episode 9/10 for series not as good as Bakemonogatari but still damn good.
 
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03-17-12, 10:14 AM

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Amazing episode and journey. Loved Nisemonogatari. I didn't expect to like it this much tbh when I first watched Bakemonogatri but now I've changed my mind. Hell, I might even rewatch this.

Anyways, fight was pretty epic and there were some interesting scenes to say the least:

Kiss:


Fight was pretty hilarious also that seems to be one sided. Anyways, loved the series and episode. 5/5.

But now, I'm platinum mad.
 
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03-17-12, 10:29 AM

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Not gonna lie. I got teary eyed when Koyomi was having a speech about his little sister. That's what siblings and family do.

Though in hindsight, it ended kinda like Tsubasa Cat. fight fight then talk.

Oh well, I rate this about 8/10. Not perfect since they dragged out Karen Bee.

To be continued... isn't this what they said in Bake also? Oh well, I look forward to SHAFT animating all the monogatari series.

 
03-17-12, 10:31 AM

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I thought this was way superior to Bakemonogatari in a ton of ways (also because I wasn't a fan of how Hanekawa's arc was handled), so it'll be getting a 10/10 from me.

I can totally see how people would think Nisemonogatari is an inferior sequel, but once you know how it fits into the bigger picture you'll probably/hopefully appreciate it more.

The "to be continued" coupled with Shinbo saying that he wants to animate all of the novels has me hyped.
 
03-17-12, 10:34 AM

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Is it just me or is someone else feeling unsatisfied with the "ending"?

I have a feeling that they are going to take a page Bakemonogatari and release a real ending a year from now.

Still I enjoyed Koyomi's "fight" with Yozuru, even though Koyomi ended up being the punching bag.

I would have given this an 8 but since there were some memorable episodes I give it a 9/10. lol
 
03-17-12, 10:35 AM

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OH GOD. That was so epic. In so many ways. So good. So fresh. I'M PLATINUM HAPPY.
 
03-17-12, 10:40 AM

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ffuuu its over. want more gatari nowwwwww.
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03-17-12, 10:45 AM

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that felt sudden. Not enough shinobu fighting GURR
 
03-17-12, 10:47 AM

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SPOILER IN A SENSE- The too be continued starts in the movie which is the prequel kizu, which will tell the vampire story part, than they also have the one after phoenix which hitagi is essentially a different person, less tsundere and more natural ex. being nicer, and cuter in a sense, so basically you can assume the direct sequel in late summer or in the September/October season of anime debuts.
 
03-17-12, 10:51 AM

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Art2010 said:
SPOILER IN A SENSE- The too be continued starts in the movie which is the prequel kizu, which will tell the vampire story part, than they also have the one after phoenix which hitagi is essentially a different person, less tsundere and more natural ex. being nicer, and cuter in a sense, so basically you can assume the direct sequel in late summer or in the September/October season of anime debuts.

How long before we can see kizu do you think?
 
03-17-12, 10:52 AM

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i actually understood most of what happened in that episode for once, i liked the way it ended, but it will be continued? i wonder if this is going to be the other volumes they are animating, or some thing we haven't heard about yet, like an ova?
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03-17-12, 10:55 AM

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Gahara with short hair is horrible.

8/10 overall
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Pledge yourself to neither side, but vow instead to preserve the balance that exists between the two.”
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03-17-12, 11:11 AM

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bakuramariks said:
Gahara with short hair is horrible.

8/10 overall
Wasn't that bad. Still better than Short-haired Karen, but then, everyone is.

Next adaption is Neko?
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03-17-12, 11:11 AM

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Again this show reversed the expectations of mine and certainly of most of the viewers by letting Kagenui retreat just like that. However, I didn't mind especially since this episode also delivered heartfelt moments and philosophical themes beside some good action scenes.

Kagenui's relationship with Oshino and Kaiki came off as surprising to me espcially in Kaiki's case. While they all bear similarities to some degree after further examination they couldn't look more different on the first sight. Kagenui is a person who resolves problems with her fists while Kaiki avoids physical confrontations at all costs.

While Oshino helps without demanding something in return and Kaiki only acts for money Kagenui seems to act simply on a whim. It wasn't fun fighting Koyomi since he never fought back and with Shinobu refusing to approach her she got, as she said herself, bored with the situation, therefore she backed off. Time doesn't matter to her, huh? She certainly doesn't sound like a person with a specific goal in mind to me.

Actually, in retrospect it doesn't seem to me like she treated the whole issue too seriously to begin with. If exterminating Tsukih really mattered to her she wouldn't have given her opponents time to reconsider (and how would she have accomplished that anyway with Tsukihi being immortal and everything).

Another possibility could be of course that she was convinved by what Koyomi said (which is quite plausible by the way). Overall, the whole scenario could be seen as an upgraded version especially regarding violence of Koyomi's dialogue with Karen as in both cases Koyomi "won" the fight, not with sheer force but with words.


The antithesis of being fake and being original has always been a Leitmotiv of this series since the beginning be it concepts of justice, family bounds or simply physical appearance. The different approaches to this topic are represented by the trio of onmyoujis consisting of Oshino, Kaiki and Kagenui.

Oshino attributes equal value to both the original and the fake while Kaiki perceives the fake of being more valuable than the original. Kagenui's initial mindset apparently changed during her talk with Koyomi making her realize that her former comrades weren't totally wrong with their assumptions after all.
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