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Apr 8, 2012 1:55 AM

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Tsukihi Phoenix conflict ends, I wonder if Nisemonogatari will get the Bakemonogatari treatment with extra web release episodes.

It doesn't really matter if Tsukihi was never human to begin with, she's still Koyomi and Karen's beloved little sister. I thought the two teams were going to go for a draw with both one win and one loss, but you gotta hand it to Koyomi for refusing to give up to Yozuru. Shinobu taught Yotsugi a lesson on respecting her "elders".

It's clear how much Koyomi loves his sisters, going so much as to get his ass royally handed to him, and yet win the fight in the way only he can. Nobody messes with the Araragi family. "That's how family works."



Though I have to admit that the author's war on beautiful long hair has me platinum mad. Well, it'll all grow back eventually. If he lets them.
 
Apr 8, 2012 7:09 PM

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It's clear how much Koyomi loves his sisters, going so much as to get his ass royally handed to him, and yet win the fight in the way only he can. Nobody messes with the Araragi family. "That's how family works."


Araragi has a good chance of winning such a fight, he was never fighting Yozuru seriously to begin with and anyone that knows why from the novels would agree with me. He also states himself that he never intended to kill her, though this is not viable evidence for my original point.


 
Apr 9, 2012 4:06 PM

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Wow. Awesome ending. Who was that at the end, though? Hitagi with cut hair?


Who was it? :)
 
Apr 11, 2012 9:07 AM

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Am I the only one that likes Senjougahara with her short hair?

Actually, I like them all with their hair short, it's cute. Specially Hanekawa.

Kanbaru looks better with her hair long though.
No.
 
Apr 16, 2012 2:06 AM

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I feel like this "season" or whatever you want to call it, was very lacking compared to 'Bakemonogatari'.

There are many reasons, but the top has to be the ANTI-CLIMATIC ending to both arcs.

It just seems like it was all HAX, yes, the same way Shounen does it's stories....sorry, but I really feel that way.

The way they ended the Karen arc just bothers me so damn much, it was literally all talk and nothing to show for it. At least this arc had a better conclusion but at the same time it seemed very contrived and not logical with the way this "world" operates.


Despite this grievance, I'm going to give that a pass because this series is much more than just telling a story.

It's one of the most unique and entertaining shows in a sea of generic and utterly bad anime.


Overall, the top character (Once again) was Koyomi Araragi, he really is what makes this anime so damn fun to watch.

Although, I feel Karen really made a huge fanbase (especially with the FAMOUS TOOTHBRUSH episode).


In Conclusion, I'm very pleased with Nisemonogatari, it didn't live up to what Bakemonogatari was, but then again I don't think there was any way it would've been better.

As an ecchi fan, I loved all the ecchi scenes, I loved Karen, and all the other girls.


9/10....I feel like I might be giving this series a higher rating than it deserves.

Then again, Shinobu and Karen were just too delicious :D
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Apr 17, 2012 7:57 AM

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What's with this whole "the author hates long hair" rubbish? If that was true, Senjougahara and Tsubasa would have never had long hair in the first place. They cut their hair (along with Nadeko) becuase Koyomi has a fetish for short hair.
 
Apr 18, 2012 11:59 PM

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Well, let's hope the next monogatari series is much better than this one.


It's a shame Nisiosin's characters still suffer from notshuttingthefuckup-itis.
 
Apr 23, 2012 12:23 AM

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is nisemonogatari the second part of bakemonogatari?
cuz` I just finished both.. what`ll be next? XD
I can`t wait XD
 
Apr 27, 2012 3:16 AM

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Mormegil said:
Well, let's hope the next monogatari series is much better than this one.


It's a shame Nisiosin's characters still suffer from notshuttingthefuckup-itis.


It'd be hard to be worse than this series.
The pacing completely blew my mind, they could've wrapped this whole series up in 4 episodes, if that.
 
Apr 27, 2012 6:16 PM

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Shinobu is too darn epic, in every conceivable way. Can't wait for Kizumonogatari!
 
Apr 29, 2012 6:26 PM

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awesome end to the season.

can't wait for the next season.

really enjoyed the bgm and animation, 10/10

hey hey, do you have smoked cheeze?
Nyoro~n
 
May 2, 2012 1:31 PM

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This one was much better than its prequel.
 
May 6, 2012 10:14 AM

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I don't get it, did Senjougahara end the relationship with araragi? What happened to her? I don't understand, did I forget something while extending the watch times between episodes? I'm confused as hell. Then he said that he had a girlfriend at the end I don't get it? Who was that girl?

Edit: OH I'm dumb, that was her with short hair but her hair was gorgeous :(... Argh I didn't think she was serious... I want to see more of her with short hair now... See how she's changed.
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May 28, 2012 2:01 AM

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First, Karen... Short Hair. Then Senjougahara... SHORT HAIR TOO!!!? I'M PLATINUM MAD!

9/10

I have a sickness called gettingarousedbyhorieyui'svoice syndrome.
 
Jun 4, 2012 9:20 PM

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So Kanbaru grows out her hair and then all the other girls cut theirs short? -__- With the exception of Karen however, everyone looks nice with the short hair. As long as Shinobu never cuts her hair. Speaking of her, she was awesome in her adult form!

This series was just as good as Bakemono imo.
 
Jun 7, 2012 3:42 PM

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What happened with Senjougahara's hair? Not good!

Amaaaaaaaaazing anime...too funny, amazing art, fanservices great as well and even better than Bakemonogatari.
I really loved it!

10/10
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Jun 11, 2012 7:19 PM

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Amazing.Amazing.Amazing.Enjoyed every single episode, had a lot of laugh and ''OMG EPIC'' moments everywhere.
Now im waiting for Koimonogatari and Onimonogatari animated version!.

10/10
 
Jun 26, 2012 10:06 PM

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Good episode, however, I was expecting to see Shinobu fight, ah well.

Liked the season a lot more than I did with Bake*, probably cause I got used to the style with Bake*.

Looking forward to more in the future.

4/5 for the ep.
9.5/10 rounded to 10 for the series. :)
 
Jul 6, 2012 7:52 PM

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I was really surprise to see what happen to her sister at the end of the episode :O And the battle was pretty awesome too....though every time i see Araragi Koyom bleeds i feel kinda scared that he might die 0,o Also SHINOBU OSHINO grown up :D she looks sexy *o*

Anyway 9.5/10 for this anime <3 Loved this anime ^.^ Hoping for season 3~

PS: Collecting its Figure ^0^
 
Jul 17, 2012 9:14 AM

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They really rushed things with Tsukihi's arc, especially at the climax. Kagenui's retreat was too forced to feel like a rational conclusion to the fight. I did like Shinobu's powered-up form; she was awesome as hell. It's a shame we didn't actually get to see her fight against the minion though.

For me, Nisemonogatari was nearly as enjoyable as its prequel. The only thing that let me down is the sudden change in pace in the final arc and the introduction of gratuitous detail that had no real contribution to the plot.
 
Jul 25, 2012 4:33 AM

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I put off finishing this anime for so long because I just didn't want it to end. LOL. Gonna die waiting for Kizumonogatari...

They did rush Tsukihi's arc quite a bit and karen bee was so drawn out, which was super weird to me since her "monster" came to such an easy resolve. Lol. But anyways, I'm not sure if it even mattered, story-telling wise.

Honestly I just loved the little things they did in Nisemonogatari. Like how before Shinobu in loli form would simply say "Ka Ka" to laugh(or cackle?) but after regaining some of her true form, she did the full out Mwuahaha true vampire laugh. Or Kagenui's "Kyoto Accent" I googled and found out there's a shrine for a famous Onmyoji in Kyoto.

And the way they incorporated Tsukihi Phoenix in the scenes was so beautiful and made me tear up just a little bit every time.

Anyways, Koyomi's relationship with not only his sisters, but every character is just so well portrayed. I want Koyomi to be my older brother :'(
 
Jul 27, 2012 12:26 PM

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First Bakemonogatari and now Nisemonogatari are both true works of art. The art of this season was even better, better colors and wonderful surreal backgrounds. The wordplay is so unique. Nisemonogatari felt different from Bakemongatari, and it took me a while to get into it but it ended great. I personally loved the increased sensuality/sexuality of this season. I hear the next season will be a movie. Looking forward to seeing it.
 
Aug 2, 2012 2:15 PM

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Bravo. Pretty satisfactory ending. It that matters.
Anyway, till the next movie then.
 
Aug 2, 2012 5:40 PM

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Episode was brilliant, the whole series was brilliant. "Love scenes" were very exciting, but never exceeded the boundary between love and hentai, so anime watched with big pleasure. I missed only Senjougahara and her love to Koyomi. With great impatience I'm waiting for continuation.
 
Aug 4, 2012 7:19 PM

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Well like the prequel it had not that good ending and what's up with that beach and Senjougahara having cut her hair O_O'

Either way it is rather an open ending and it does say continue so will there be any sequels ? Or will it just be Kizumonogatari the prequel on Bakemonogatari ?

Nice anime though 8/10
 
Aug 7, 2012 9:46 PM

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Boba_Fett said:
Well like the prequel it had not that good ending and what's up with that beach and Senjougahara having cut her hair O_O'

Either way it is rather an open ending and it does say continue so will there be any sequels ? Or will it just be Kizumonogatari the prequel on Bakemonogatari ?

Nice anime though 8/10


Kizumonogatari will be the prequel movie and Zenmonogatari is the third (sequel) season that I've heard is combining the rest of the Monogatari books into a single season. It's been announced on the Bakemonogatari Website, but all that really appears is the logo for the next season and everything regarding it is kind of speculation at this point (as far as I know at least).
 
Aug 14, 2012 12:15 AM

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Actually "battle" isn't a valid word when Araragi gets involved . He basically got beat up like fawk :3 8/10 Anyway
 
Aug 17, 2012 4:23 AM

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Nisemonogatari wasnt as good as Bakemonogatari imp, but still very enjoyed it and the improved animation, characters and comedy was a very welcome change, but i still prefer the atmosphere and stories of bakemonogatari. 8/10
 
Aug 18, 2012 11:12 AM

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Nooo! the ending sucks!
Without mention I don't like fanservice, I really feel very unsatisfied щ(ಥДಥ)щ...

anyways ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌ BAKEMONOGATARI WAS PLATINUM SUPERIOR... ka ka!!

9/10 for the stunning visuals and the tons of creative stuffs.
 
Aug 20, 2012 11:21 PM

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WHY IS EVERYONE CUTTING THEIR HAIR!?!?!? Didnt expect that kiss, and i thought koyomi's sisters knew he was going out with hitagi. Guess not.

10/10
 
Aug 25, 2012 1:44 PM

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Man, can't wait for Shaft to do the other monogatari novels...
 
Aug 26, 2012 4:25 PM

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Awesome episode.
Loved all those Shinobu show-off.

First was feeding time:




Next was showoff upon arriving at the vilains' lair:




After that Araragi-kun gets his major ownage:




I lol'd so hard upon seing his face:


Can't wait for the future monogatari adaptations :(

 
Aug 31, 2012 2:09 AM

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I want MOAR NOW!!!!!
 
Sep 6, 2012 2:27 AM

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gotta love Shinobu's Donut Jacket, i wanna have one!

I really like the bond between Koyomi and his sisters, and i'm not really bothered by the scene where he kissed Tsukihi, it's quite amusing lol

Senjougahara's short hair.. at first i thought she would always look better with her ponytail but later on i found that her short hair is kinda cute, and the scene where she's walking in the beach wearing summer dress, omg absolutely gorgeous!!

i guess since Kizumonogatari is taking place before Bakemono, Senjougahara won't make any appearance right? kinda sad but still it would be great to watch Shinobu in her adult form, can't wait!

final score : 9/10


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
 
Sep 19, 2012 8:56 AM

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WHY IS EVERYONE CUTTING THEIR HAIR!?!?!?


True. Although this series has so many fan-service, their fan-disservice is so heavy! D<

I have a sickness called gettingarousedbyhorieyui'svoice syndrome.
 
Sep 22, 2012 11:34 AM

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Only 1 thing to say - WHY SHE CUT HER HAIR T.T
 
Sep 24, 2012 8:56 AM

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I'm gonna miss these characters I hope the other novels will be animated soon
 
Sep 27, 2012 11:25 AM

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It's too much a bland sequel to the successful prequel...It failed my expectations -__- Yet I'm still welcome to anticipate further sequels due to its high quality production and good storytelling...still a decent series as a whole :)

The only thing that I liked in this "2nd season" is a moral value of how Koyomi treat his family nicely no matter how many interferences disturbed him :) Although, I'll rate it 6/10 due to some mediocre, anti-climactic and fan-service-emphasized sequences...I hope anyone won't be offended, it's still a lovable series to my eyes.

 
Oct 21, 2012 8:01 PM

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Has there been a release date for the next Monogatari after this?, to rate this episode definitely give it a 9/0 grown up Shinobu was hot! Hitagi needs more screen time next release though, I feel that although they have a relationship they spent more time in bake which is perfectly understandable but I'd like to see more of them both! perhaps actually communicating when koyomi gets in trouble.

I don't like how he just goes on a whim all the time without his girlfriend's knowledge.

Also, I recall reading somewhere that these girls are cutting their hair because koyomi prefer' girls with short hair.. Perhaps that is why we see hitagi with short hair.
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Oct 21, 2012 8:06 PM

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Has there been a release date for the next Monogatari after this?, to rate this episode definitely give it a 9/0 grown up Shinobu was hot! Hitagi needs more screen time next release though, I feel that although they have a relationship they spent more time in bake which is perfectly understandable but I'd like to see more of them both! perhaps actually communicating when koyomi gets in trouble.

I don't like how he just goes on a whim all the time without his girlfriend's knowledge.

Also, I recall reading somewhere that these girls are cutting their hair because koyomi prefer' girls with short hair.. Perhaps that is why we see hitagi with short hair.


I just replied to your other thread but here you go

Nekomonogatari is next. Starts Dec 29th.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/15689/Nekomonogatari:_Kuro
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Oct 21, 2012 8:35 PM

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Haha you stalking me shiv! Posted this just once you posted the link .. oh wells.
 
Oct 21, 2012 8:38 PM

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Nope. This thread is in my watched list lol. I watch topics i'm interested in, and that usually includes the final episode discussion threads of my favorites.

Or maybe I am >:)
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Nov 8, 2012 5:40 AM

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This season was alright I guess, more than anything what really draws me to this anime is the art style and animation. The most beautiful I have ever seen.

I wonder though what's with the random character design changes. Hanekawa has cut her hair and thrown away the glasses though that was a bit much, I almost couldn't recognize her lol, nut at least I can understand she wanted to turn over a new leaf after what happened in Bakemonogatari. But why did Karen suddenly lose her tail? Why did Senjougahara suddenly have short hair.... Is she trying to keep up with Hanekawa so she doesn't lose her bf? LOL I guess short hair is now their trend, good thing Kanbaru doesn't follow trends, she goes her own way (growing her hair and being as perverted as ever lol)
I don't get it though... I guess with this Senjougahara will never be the same...
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Nov 13, 2012 2:24 PM

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I gave 9/10 somewhat for me it was very good however i felt unfulfilled maybe because it was only 11 episodes. I really like shinobu haha she's so hot when she grows up :D

Anyways i will patiently wait for the next :) Kizumonogatari i think haha
 
Dec 1, 2012 3:19 PM

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It had to end now that I got hooked on it, really liked this season, maybe even more than Bake.
Teen Shinobu is really hot :3 I hope more of the novels get animated asap :|
 
Dec 5, 2012 12:42 AM

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Pretty solid series all around. I definitely enjoyed the larger role of the Fire Sisters and the more talkative Shinobu. Kaiki was a great edition to the cast as well. I think the overarching theme of "a fake" and the dialogues and fanservice were all well handled. Not to mention the incredibly memorable toothbrush scene. Holy shit.

My only real complaints are the fact that everyone seemed to cut their hair and that Senjougahara took a backseat for most of the series. Boo.

8/10
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Dec 10, 2012 8:41 AM

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Haha, Shinobu totally destroyed that girl, wasn't even close! =D

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Dec 30, 2012 10:44 PM
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Oh god Shinobu so hot with her teen phase there! Senjougahara with her short hair on the beach was nice, but short hair doesn't really work on her. Oh well. I can't wait for the next series on the 31st, but I don't think we see Senjougahara at all..

9/10 For both series
 
Dec 31, 2012 12:40 PM

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i loved bakemono ( 9/10) even though this lacked some stuff i loved in bake i still enjoyed it 7/10
( im so mad they made senjoughara cut her hair too >.< )
 
Jan 2, 2013 11:34 AM

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I didn't mind them giving a few characters short hair but they have done it for everyone :< And most of them looked better with long hair
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