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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
55 59.14%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
23 24.73%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
9 9.68%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
1 1.08%
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03-19-12, 5:26 PM

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Does anyone have any idea if it is following the novel or fucking it? Well, I liked this series when it started, but I have learned not to take it that seriously.


They haven't truly kept it close to the LN since it started, to be honest. It has kept about 50% of the story in place and ditched the other half for fanservice/perverted stuff, basically. The first three seasons were fairly close to the LNs in terms of story but after that they really started skipping ahead fast. Saito was supposed to keep his laptop when he came to Halkeginia and that was the first of many mistakes made.

To me the biggest mistake ever made was Saito's heroic sacrifice in Albion and how they botched it in the same episode and had him come back that quickly, the LN is far far better for how that turns out. After getting back to school after the war was over, Monmon told Louise to try the Familiar Summon spell (thinking that if he was alive it would not allow her to summon a new familiar, not realizing his runes had worn off due to his death/resurrection) because that would prove if Saito was alive but the gate opened and she thought he was truly dead, so Louise was going to jump off a tower to "meet Saito" again in death but that was averted and then her and Siesta went to search for him instead of being a crybaby in bed. Then Saito asked Agnes (who went searching for him on Henrietta's orders) and Tiffania (who leads Louise and Siesta to Saito's impromptu "grave") to say he was dead to Louise/Henrietta so he could do his own thing because he was no longer Gandalfr. He ended up saving Louise again when she opened a Summon Familiar portal and was calling out for help after being attacked by Sheffield and he got his runes back after that. They really botched it in the anime big time, it was far more epic in the LN! All in all, it took at least a month, probably close to 2 months before she saw Saito again and he did not magically appear in front of the school either, if she hadn't gone to look for him he would not have come back.. /facepalm

In fact, the emails he got from his mother is what spurs Louise to send Saito back in the first place, by having the Pope cast the World Door (not Louise) and having Tiffania use her memory erase void spell on Louise to get rid of her memories of Saito, which is the main plot of Vol 13/14. By now we have skipped to Vol 19 and beyond which is where Lukshana shows up and we are in new territory now. A LOT of plot has been skipped overall in the anime and most of it has been character development. Most of what we got in return was fanservice and many filler episodes that don't exist in the LN.

Louise actually says "I love you" to Saito a lot earlier in the LN compared to the anime, and no past tense bs either.. Volume 13 Chapter 2 to be exact, they were about to get it on until Tabitha interrupts.. as usual. Again in Volume 18 she offered to have sex with him but he turned her down for some ungodly reason, who knows what Saito is thinking. I guess the author just likes to ship tease every other chapter and wants to prolong the suffering of the hero/heroine. Blah.

Honestly, I am not surprised, JC Staff did it with Toaru Majutsu no Index I/II and Railgun as well and the LNs are what you should read if you want character development, but at least the protag and heroine have actually kissed/gone to 2nd base in ZnT, compared to Index they still haven't done anything at all but have sexual tension. I guess it makes sense, Misaka Mikoto is a bit younger than Louise is after all..
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03-19-12, 5:33 PM

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lol it was totaly not there where the first gate opened, it was in the middle of the street
they have no fkn idea what to do with the series rofl
 
03-19-12, 5:36 PM

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Still, gotta love that wedding version I say yes...
 
03-19-12, 5:57 PM

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That melodrama was ridiculously meh; whatever, as long as it doesn't end on a shitty note. Rather ZNT be remembered as a romance series between a girl and her knight than a boy and his harem.
 
03-19-12, 6:23 PM

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styr said:
Again in Volume 18 she offered to have sex with him but he turned her down for some ungodly reason, who knows what Saito is thinking. I guess the author just likes to ship tease every other chapter and wants to prolong the suffering of the hero/heroine. Blah.


Where can you read volume 18? I can't find it anywhere... :L
 
03-19-12, 6:33 PM

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who thinks saito find something else instead of a fighter jet?
 
03-19-12, 7:32 PM

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styr said:
Again in Volume 18 she offered to have sex with him but he turned her down for some ungodly reason, who knows what Saito is thinking. I guess the author just likes to ship tease every other chapter and wants to prolong the suffering of the hero/heroine. Blah.


Where can you read volume 18? I can't find it anywhere... :L


Vol. 18 Ch. 1 SPOILERS

Can you read Japanese? That's my only advice.. I translated (took me about 5 days to do this as I am still a novice to Japanese) the Chapter 1 part where they were about to do "it" but Saito wants to wait for marriage basically, but they almost did it in a fountain.. lol.. and would have if Saito had not pulled back, literally.
that is the extent of what happened, very close to R-18 material.

If you go on BakaTsuki and go to Vol 18 look at the first picture with the naked Louise in the fountain, that is the scene I am talking about. Although the picture shows the early part of the scene and only one of them is naked,
but she was over exaggerating what happened. Saito must have some god damn balls of steel or something to back out at that point.
 
03-19-12, 8:01 PM

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prismheart said:
I'm predicting that by the end of next episode Saito will be embraced by another girl other than Louise and Louise will get mad and zap him, like always.


100% true
 
03-19-12, 9:07 PM

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styr said:
Vol. 18 Ch. 1 SPOILERS

Can you read Japanese? That's my only advice.. I translated (took me about 5 days to do this as I am still a novice to Japanese) the Chapter 1 part where they were about to do "it" but Saito wants to wait for marriage basically, but they almost did it in a fountain.. lol.. and would have if Saito had not pulled back, literally.
that is the extent of what happened, very close to R-18 material.

If you go on BakaTsuki and go to Vol 18 look at the first picture with the naked Louise in the fountain, that is the scene I am talking about. Although the picture shows the early part of the scene and only one of them is naked,
but she was over exaggerating what happened. Saito must have some god damn balls of steel or something to back out at that point.


*sigh*.... I'm learning Japanese, it's been almost a year since I started. This is definitely a HUGE reason as to why I started anyway. Reading Japanese books, and watching Japanese TV. Thank you so much for telling me this. Is the novel still being translated? Because so far, it's only up to like chapter 4 in volume 15, and as far as I see, 20 volumes are released... :| There are supposed to be 22 and then the series ends. I just want to be assured if the translation is still continuing, because from what I see, the translations seem to be very far behind... Also, I kinda skipped ahead and started reading at volume 13... are there any other good Saito and Louise moments before that? Would love to know, because so far, it's much deeper than the anime implies :P
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03-19-12, 10:21 PM

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*sigh*.... I'm learning Japanese, it's been almost a year since I started. This is definitely a HUGE reason as to why I started anyway. Reading Japanese books, and watching Japanese TV. Thank you so much for telling me this. Is the novel still being translated? Because so far, it's only up to like chapter 4 in volume 15, and as far as I see, 20 volumes are released... :| There are supposed to be 22 and then the series ends. I just want to be assured if the translation is still continuing, because from what I see, the translations seem to be very far behind... Also, I kinda skipped ahead and started reading at volume 13... are there any other good Saito and Louise moments before that? Would love to know, because so far, it's much deeper than the anime implies :P


The translation is extremely slow seeing as there is only one person working on it currently. Apparently it was a lot quicker for the first 12 volumes because there was a ton of people working on it but they ended up ditching it to work on Toaru Majutsu no Index and other projects. The current translator is moving at a snail's pace honestly and only 2 volumes have been done in 2 years, so it isn't looking good truthfully.

As for other good Saito x Louise moments... Volume 13 is where she finally says the 3 words Saito has been waiting to hear, then promptly has
This arc is never mentioned in the anime, because it is brought on by his laptop that is never brought to begin with, but I guess you could say this latest episode has some elements used, but AFAIK Saito never goes back to Tokyo in the LN.

If you really want to see a memorable scene between those two, you will want to read Vol 7 Ch 9/10 and Vol 8, as that involves Saito's sacrifice in Albion after being "married" to Louise and the search for him by Agnes and later Louise/Siesta. It is very touching especially in the later chapters of Vol 8, when Louise/Siesta reach Westwood village. I really hated how they handled this entire situation in the anime, I ranted about it in one of my previous posts in this thread that is full of spoilers.

Supposedly the last two volumes are being released this year. And yes the anime totally skips over a lot of things including her Illusion spell that she uses in the LN.
 
03-20-12, 1:04 PM

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styr said:
The translation is extremely slow seeing as there is only one person working on it currently. Apparently it was a lot quicker for the first 12 volumes because there was a ton of people working on it but they ended up ditching it to work on Toaru Majutsu no Index and other projects. The current translator is moving at a snail's pace honestly and only 2 volumes have been done in 2 years, so it isn't looking good truthfully.

As for other good Saito x Louise moments... Volume 13 is where she finally says the 3 words Saito has been waiting to hear, then promptly has
This arc is never mentioned in the anime, because it is brought on by his laptop that is never brought to begin with, but I guess you could say this latest episode has some elements used, but AFAIK Saito never goes back to Tokyo in the LN.

If you really want to see a memorable scene between those two, you will want to read Vol 7 Ch 9/10 and Vol 8, as that involves Saito's sacrifice in Albion after being "married" to Louise and the search for him by Agnes and later Louise/Siesta. It is very touching especially in the later chapters of Vol 8, when Louise/Siesta reach Westwood village. I really hated how they handled this entire situation in the anime, I ranted about it in one of my previous posts in this thread that is full of spoilers.

Supposedly the last two volumes are being released this year. And yes the anime totally skips over a lot of things including her Illusion spell that she uses in the LN.


Damn, that's a big bummer... I guess all I can really do is continue learning and buy the novels from somewhere... It sucks that the translators all abandoned, and I was just getting into the story, too :(
 
03-24-12, 11:21 PM

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Ok Saito... GET A FUCKING NUKE AND FUCK UP THEIR BITCH ASSES EARTH STYLE BITCHES!~!~!~!~!~!
 
03-25-12, 10:45 PM

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Not gunna lie... almost teared, but I didn't. This series will need to try a bit harder to accomplish that! Sad nonetheless though. xD
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03-26-12, 5:52 PM

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I have a feeling Louise is going to try and fail, Summon saito and that's it he'll save the day, and die the hero, and then the ancient dragon will rise once more, gobble Tiffa, and then Louise will use her ultimate spell which will destroy everything around, herself included. Their world will be saved, but there will be no Void user known left around.
 
03-26-12, 9:59 PM

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For what the sesries have done so far, it is acceptable for such a situation to come like this. It's really ok to me
However, I still can't think of how they will end everything in just one more episode.
 
03-26-12, 10:21 PM

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Saito is obviously going to somehow come back next episode.
All the evils in the world? Bring at least three times as much if you wish to spoil me! - Gilgamesh

 
04-13-12, 6:01 PM

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lol it was totaly not there where the first gate opened, it was in the middle of the street
they have no fkn idea what to do with the series rofl


Maybe his memory isn't perfect? =O If it was me, I wouldn't really remember perfectly.

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04-19-12, 8:34 AM

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There's a lot of things I'd like to say about this, but I'll settle with agreeing with the guy that rooted for the dragon.
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04-21-12, 11:17 AM

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So, Saito agreed to get a plane from his world? How exactly was he planning to do that? o.O
 
04-26-12, 7:33 PM

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"what we didnt hear anything about the dragon being able to fly?"


its...its a dragon remember?


 
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