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Mar 12, 2012 10:31 AM

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If it's any consolation, which it isn't, I will purchase a Chihayafuru blu-ray if it ever gets licensed in the States. Since it's doing terrible in Japan, it actually has a chance of being licensed for cheap around the world, which is a plus for us so don't complain. Of course getting a second season will be a problem unless foreign licensing and sales could bring some profit back to the creators. It's a Catch-22 but a previous person pointed out that if you want to continue the show you can always read it's manga. I haven't checked it out yet but am curious how far the anime has progressed in the manga. Perhaps I will have to check it out when the sow finishes airing.
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That makes me really sad because this is such a wonderful anime! I hope that josei anime continues to be made because some of my favorite series are in the josei category. They always have great stories and characters plus none of that fanservice junk. It seems to me that Chihayafuru is more popular overseas than it is in Japan... which is kind of strange since karuta is a Japanese game. I had absolutely no idea this even existed before watching it. But you really don't have to be that familiar with the card game to enjoy the show.

Well I hope it gets licensed in America because I will buy the dvds and support Chihayafuru!
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Mar 12, 2012 11:27 AM

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nerdsonfire1 said:
That makes me really sad because this is such a wonderful anime! I hope that josei anime continues to be made because some of my favorite series are in the josei category. They always have great stories and characters plus none of that fanservice junk. It seems to me that Chihayafuru is more popular overseas than it is in Japan... which is kind of strange since karuta is a Japanese game. I had absolutely no idea this even existed before watching it. But you really don't have to be that familiar with the card game to enjoy this show.

Well I hope it gets licensed in America because I will buy the dvds and support this amazing show!


fanservice junk? Look, we know you like josei, and so do i, but if you're gonna bash on another genre just because you don't like it then don't post in the first place.
and for the record, "fanservice junk" sells much much much better than josei, even much better than most other genres, so get over it.
Mar 12, 2012 11:30 AM
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fanservice junk? Look, we know you like josei, and so do i, but if you're gonna bash on another genre just because you don't like it then don't post in the first place.
and for the record, "fanservice junk" sells much much much better than josei, even much better than most other genres, so get over it.


Excuse me, I can post whatever I want as it's my opinion! Yes fanservice does sell because unfortunately there are more perverts who watch anime :P
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Mar 12, 2012 11:36 AM

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nerdsonfire1 said:
bakayarokonoyaro said:


fanservice junk? Look, we know you like josei, and so do i, but if you're gonna bash on another genre just because you don't like it then don't post in the first place.
and for the record, "fanservice junk" sells much much much better than josei, even much better than most other genres, so get over it.


Excuse me, I can post whatever I want as it's my opinion! Yes fanservice does sell because unfortunately there are more perverts who watch anime :P


Keep your pointless opinions for yourself, this thread is about CHIHAYAFURU.
Why thank you, fanservice sells high and it will keep selling whether you like it or not.
perverts? Hah, i guess that's true, i'm grateful to those perverts though, thanks to them i get to enjoy my anime ;)
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RyanSaotome said:
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Josei anime don't sell, they need to get it through their greedy skulls.


You seem to forget Usagi Drop, Princess Jellyfish,Honey & Clover(lasted 2 seasons),Nodame Cantabile(lasted 3 seasons) and Paradise Kiss. These are proof that Josei anime can be successful.


Usagi Drop barely passed the Manabi line, Princess Jellyfish was a dud sales wise, as was Paradise Kiss.

Honey & Clover and Nodame Cantabile were both hits in sales, though.


Thank you for the correction Honey & Clover and Nodame Cantabille (and its original manga) are basically Josei versions of stories you would normally find in the Shoujo genre(you can say the same with some Seinen/Shounen shows and manga) and because of those shows they will keep making Josei anime which is why Shirokuma Cafe is airing next month(an Josei Gag anime).
Mar 12, 2012 12:02 PM

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That sucks.It's a really good show, too :(
Mar 12, 2012 12:06 PM
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Orion1 said:
If it's any consolation, which it isn't, I will purchase a Chihayafuru blu-ray if it ever gets licensed in the States. Since it's doing terrible in Japan, it actually has a chance of being licensed for cheap around the world, which is a plus for us so don't complain. Of course getting a second season will be a problem unless foreign licensing and sales could bring some profit back to the creators. It's a Catch-22 but a previous person pointed out that if you want to continue the show you can always read it's manga. I haven't checked it out yet but am curious how far the anime has progressed in the manga. Perhaps I will have to check it out when the sow finishes airing.


The manga is 5 years old and is ongoing with at least 15 volumes published plus people are just recently scanning and translating the manga so what is available will likely be already in the series.
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DAMNIT!!!!

If the ratings r low, does that me no second season which is show DESPERATELY needs? T_____T

I really want 2nd season! T__________T
Mar 12, 2012 12:53 PM

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I really really really hope they will make a season 2!
We need more Josei in the anime industry!
Mar 12, 2012 1:41 PM

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Figured it wouldn't sell that well, even before I saw the stats. This just confirms it. It is pretty unique that they'd support this show.

I'm not knockin it seeing as I haven't really tried it, but I'm just saying that it never seemed like a show that'd sell well or even make the rankings. It's nothing ground-breakingly interesting, and it doesn't really have any other appeals. It doesn't just have to do with the genre itself (but if you wanna argue, most josei aren't the most popular around, despite having some rather successful ones in the past). The bad time slot only sealed its bad luck. I agree with the critic.
Mar 12, 2012 2:09 PM
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I hope the western release is more profitable.
Mar 12, 2012 2:21 PM

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Yay, I guess. I don't care about this particular show, but I'm happy they're willing to support something even though it isn't selling very well.
Mar 12, 2012 2:55 PM

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Before I watched Chihayafuru, I thought it would honestly suck. But it's been on my favorite animes list since the first episode. It's a great show. A shame it isn't more popular. This means no second season? :(
Mar 12, 2012 3:09 PM

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MM-Rosiie said:
Before I watched Chihayafuru, I thought it would honestly suck. But it's been on my favorite animes list since the first episode. It's a great show. A shame it isn't more popular. This means no second season? :(


I'm not sure, it might get a second season, i've seen far more crappy animes getting a second season, why not a fairly good one?
Mar 12, 2012 3:17 PM

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Now that's just sad, it's a good show and it deserves better. It's at least a lot better than most, if not all, of the shows that are currently airing. I personally think we need more shows like Chihayafuru, and I would gladly welcome more anime of the Josei genre. Sigh.
Mar 12, 2012 3:46 PM

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jmal said:
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I'm not sure, it might get a second season, i've seen far more crappy animes getting a second season, why not a fairly good one?

Well, because individual opinions on "good" and "bad" don't have any influence on production decisions, unless they translate into financial incentive (i.e. buy stuff).

In this case it just sounds like we're lucky we got even one season, since funding was so hard to come by.


I guess that's true.
Mar 12, 2012 4:20 PM

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Is the manga licensed for an american release??
Mar 12, 2012 5:11 PM

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I'm kinda sad/disappointed that it didn't sell well, because it's josei and I want all josei anime to do well so that we might get more. But at the same time the anime is so boring to me at this point. It feels like a chore to get through each episode.
And I'm not even gonna lie, it's mostly because of a certain male redhead.
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well glad the station supports shows that arent making great profits, which the show was doing better though, its rather nice



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Mar 12, 2012 6:55 PM
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IZUMI64 said:
it's a crap anyway...


Wise words.
Mar 12, 2012 8:56 PM
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jmal said:

I'm not sure about that, the most recent volume of the manga sold 250k in two weeks and must be well over 300k by now. Chihayafuru is very popular. The anime just isn't getting a lot of attention, and it being in a late night slot is probably holding it back some from fulfilling the purpose behind making anime adaptations of popular manga in the first place: to get more people to buy the manga.

At least it's a very very good show, so I'm glad NTV stuck with it, even if it might not pay off.


I'm glad to hear the manga is so successful at least! I plan on reading it as soon as the anime is over :)
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Mar 12, 2012 9:07 PM

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hOMESTUCK said:
IZUMI64 said:
it's a crap anyway...


Just so you know, if you aren't going to substantiate your opinion with at least more than a few grammatically laughable words, People are going to be hard pressed to assign any value to it.

State why it was "a crap", or don't expect anyone to take you or your opinions seriously. I've no problem with you not liking it, I just wanted you to know that at this point in time you are more amusing than inflammatory.


In fairness, there are just as many posts in here that make positive remarks about the show with no supporting evidence. :P Backing-up your statements should be a two-way street. But more importantly, demanding elaboration for a quip opinion in this type of thread has the potential to make you look prudish.

That aside: all kinds of good shows get sucky ratings. T_T
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Mar 12, 2012 9:50 PM
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IZUMI64 said:
it's a crap anyway...

You sure you didn't just step on any while you were making your way to this topic?


Aw. Here I wanted another season even though I knew it wasn't doing so hot.
Although the pacing has kind of slowed down in these last couple of episodes...which at this point is not the best thing.


I've basically liked all the josei anime i've seen so far.
Mar 13, 2012 8:43 AM

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I haven't heard of this show before, though it is a shame to find out what is going on with it. I'll probably start watching the show soon. It seems interesting.
Mar 13, 2012 1:25 PM
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jmal said:

I'm not sure about that, the most recent volume of the manga sold 250k in two weeks and must be well over 300k by now. Chihayafuru is very popular. The anime just isn't getting a lot of attention, and it being in a late night slot is probably holding it back some from fulfilling the purpose behind making anime adaptations of popular manga in the first place: to get more people to buy the manga.

At least it's a very very good show, so I'm glad NTV stuck with it, even if it might not pay off.


I'm glad to hear the manga is so successful at least! I plan on reading it as soon as the anime is over :)


Well a successful manga is the reason for the anime in the first place. If Chihayafuru wasn't a hit manga the anime would never exist. With that being said there are still a whole bunch of hit manga that still haven't had an anime produce.
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To answer the question about Chihayafuru being licensed no it is not as this isn't the kind of manga that will sell well overseas like a Blue Exorcist,Slam Dunk and Bakuman but like said before it is being scan and translated. so far 5 of the 15 volumes are scanned,translated and available.
Mar 13, 2012 1:54 PM

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So no season 2 then? :(
Thats a real shame, great anime, unique(lots of anime is so generic).
Just becaus it`s josei doesn`t mean it`s bad or unintersting, I think it`s alot of fun watching these characthers work their butts of for what they want.
Hope someone will sponsor it, and that it gets another season later.

Mar 13, 2012 9:49 PM

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My favorite anime of the last 5 seasons or so, I'm really glad they support it, the sales already made me sad :(
I probably regret this post by now.
Mar 14, 2012 10:19 AM
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At least i like this show. To bad it probably wont be an second season. :(
Mar 17, 2012 9:47 PM
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RyanSaotome said:
It aired originally around like 1:30 AM (which is normal time for late night anime), but this kinda show doesn't really appeal to the otaku.


W-What? Chii-chan is not moe enough???
Mar 20, 2012 4:37 PM

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noooo

I will buy the DVDs if you make them available in US :(

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not watching it anyway

Then why are you here?
Mar 20, 2012 4:46 PM

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Hats off to Nihon TV for showing it despite the lack of a sponsor. Strange, I would have thought that the Josei market would appeal to advertisers (particularly advertisers whose products fit that demogaphic niche). Judging from the comments of those people who have actually watched the show (and the MAL stats on ratings), it looks like this would have some appeal to wider groups. But what do I know? I'm one of the disturbingly small demographic of straight males that watches Project Runway.
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Mar 22, 2012 1:35 PM

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Heartbreaking :( Such a truly wonderful anime... I wanted a second season so badly. Sigh.
Mar 27, 2012 6:07 PM

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Damn. Chihayafuru was such a great anime. I finished watching and still want more. Hope the manga continues and hopefully there will be a second season. Great plot characters, style, everything. Will be missed.
Mar 27, 2012 8:06 PM

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Everything about this anime is fine, but the whole card poem thing can get old after a while.
Mar 27, 2012 9:40 PM

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I just finished the last ep, and decided to see if a second season had been announced, and I get THIS instead. Can't say I'm surprised, but man... really sad.

Here's to hoping a second season is made anyways!
Mmmm, spoilers until I make a MAL-friendly sig. xD

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Mar 28, 2012 10:48 AM
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http://theakiba.com/rumor-chihayafuru-second-season/

I don't know whether it is a reliable source but there is a chance of the other season
Mar 28, 2012 12:01 PM

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Someone posted a topic about that article already. Has that thread been deleted or something?
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Someone posted a topic about that article already. Has that thread been deleted or something?

No, unfortunately it 'only' got buried right when it arrived..
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=419225
Maybe it should be moved to the series board.
Mar 28, 2012 11:45 PM

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"DVD sales were unsuccessful"

Who will spend money for buy an Josei anime? Although he did hit with the public television.
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aiNkyy said:
"DVD sales were unsuccessful"

Who will spend money for buy an Josei anime? Although he did hit with the public television.


I plan on importing it, so there's one person who will spend money on it.
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Who will spend money for buy an Josei anime?
People who like Josei anime. People clearly do otherwise there wouldn't be a market for it. Not everyone watches shitty shounen and harem shit.
Mar 29, 2012 6:48 AM

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This is actually really disappointing; Chihayafuru was an AMAZING anime!
I completely agree with this Ryota character~!

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Chihayafuru is one of the better show out there that I really love. Too bad the majority of anime viewer only care about shows with fanservice and moe. Chihayafuru is a real hidden gem to me.
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aiNkyy said:
"DVD sales were unsuccessful"

Who will spend money for buy an Josei anime? Although he did hit with the public television.


I plan on importing it, so there's one person who will spend money on it.


Me too. I really love to have it on my shelf soon. One more person spend money on this great show.
Apr 7, 2012 8:57 AM

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How much does it cost to important Chihayafuru?
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 8, 2012 10:11 AM

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I don't get it, why do these shows air at such a late hour? Do they really expect somebody to be watching at 1:30 ?
Why can't they air it during prime time? I mean, I know that some other, more popular shows have that slot but they could always create another station like Nihon TV 2 and air their other projects there at normal hours. This is what they do in my country. Almost every big network has child stations.
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haters gonna hate.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=450193&show=40

I suppose this thread is the real thing? :3 As I said, its at times like this my faith in humanity is restored.

I mean, sure have moe, harem, bishies, bl, fanservice. But it used to sadden me only those appealing to the otaku and fujoshi would only sell and that there aren't enough shojo manga anime adaptation fujoshi...:( seriously, japanese girls what's wrong with you?

Once again I say: my faith in humanity os restored.
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