Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 22 Discussion

Vael said:
Yay, loved this episode as usual. And the gate looks even more epic than before, for some reason.

Hmm, am I remembering it wrongly, though, or wasn't

Vael said:
Yay, loved this episode as usual. And the gate looks even more epic than before, for some reason.

Hmm, am I remembering it wrongly, though, or wasn't

Anyway, looking forward to next week's episode! xD

Luminaire said:
Anyone know Gotoh's voice actor? Sounded like Kenyuu Horiuchi.

Vael said:
Hmm, am I remembering it wrongly, though, or wasn't

Sedge said:
Hardly anything happened in this episode, but... MIKE. *_* Does anyone know in which episode of the previous HxH he appeared?

Shadow-Chan said:
I need to see more of Mike to confirm that this dog is really scary. I am not convinced enough.

Toto_y_Moi said:

This is all we'll get of Mike for the arc, unless Madhouse adds in some more filler.

For those of you new to the series (or if you've only watched the 1999 series), it's important that you understand just how stupid it was for Gon to try and climb the Testing Gate. This is the first time in which Gon sees that there are consequences to his actions. Regardless of his intent to "rescue" Killua from his family, if he had climbed that wall like a typical Shonen protagonist, Gon would have died almost immediately.

The idea sounds ridiculous even on paper. Gon decides to break into the mansion belonging to the world's greatest assassins? He's twelve. Get real. Moreover, he didn't come to the conclusion after thinking it out rationally or deciding anything. It was something he did impulsively and in blind anger after Gotoh pissed him off.

This is the second time in which we've seen something like this in the series. Remember when Hanzo and Gon faced off in the Final Phase (Episode 19)? There was a line in it that should be addressed:

Gon: "[Hanzo] looks tough, but we should be even in terms of strength and speed."

...what? How can he even begin to believe something like that is true?

Pay attention to the things that Gon says and does. Ask yourself if these things make sense or not. Madhouse really understood what Togashi was trying to do here; the foolhardy, courageous music playing when Gon started climbing was shattered by the next scene.

MorningGlory said:
Its kinda weird using Assassin's hide-out as a tourist attraction.I thought this people suppose to be secretive.

The guide is hot as it was mentioned just now.Her boob jiggle every time she move >.<"

Paul said:
I don't remember when it happened in the original version but weren't they suppose to open the gates themselves or did they do the training inside the gate? or was that a filler?

Paul said:
I don't remember when it happened in the original version but weren't they suppose to open the gates themselves or did they do the training inside the gate? or was that a filler?

supermegasonic said:
and i totally forgot about that line with gon against hanzo, he didnt say that in this one.

NJZanDatsu said:
I'm glad the introduction is gone... lol.

Fluxje said:
The moment they are talking about the doors and how much they weigh it seems that there is a miscalculation. My japanese is limited, however I can count and the translation of horrible subs is spot on about the numbers. 2 tons, 3 gates, 16 tons.
However I guess the problem in the translation is the 'doubled' , it probably should be each door increases in weight squared.
2 - 4 - 16.
I checked the original anime, and they say exactly the same.

Anyone proficient enough in japanese to be able to tell me if this is a bad translation or just a miscalculation on the writers part?

Mikasa said:


Each SIDE weighs 2 tons, the first gate would be 4 tons in total ;)

Toto_y_Moi said:
There are a few things that I want to mention in regard to the newest episode.

I think that the scene in the beginning of the episode showing what Gon is thinking about in regard to Killua is very well placed. We don't know too much about how deeply Gon feels about certain situations until after he's had time to wind down. Case in point, his conversation with Kurapika at the end of the Fourth Phase: this is the first time in which we see Gon cry in the series.

But this episode pointed towards something different. I don't think it will be much of a spoiler for me to say that this is the last time in which we'll see Mike during the arc (and possibly the last time in the entire series).

Viewers of the old HxH might remember Gon coming face-to-face with the beast in a second confrontation and having to run from him in a chase sequence. That won't happen at all in this version. So my question to you is the following: what purpose did this scene serve in the larger narrative?


Backing up a bit, Gon had been angered by the Zoldyck butler's comments about Killua not having any friends (the same as Illumi, actually).

This is the second time in which Gon has gotten angry thus far in Hunter x Hunter--the first time being the last few minutes of episode 16. But the way in which he reacts isn't exactly...normal.

He decides to climb the Testing Gate. Despite seeing two men being killed by the Zoldyck guard dog earlier in the day, Gon throws caution to the wind and makes his way up. Despite the fact that he's breaking and entering onto the property of the world's most dangerous and notorious family of assassins, he still goes forth and fully intends to climb it--Gon gets several feet off the ground before he decides to stop.

Some would call this courageous. The song playing during this scene is actually called "Boys Be Courageous!" and has thus far mostly played during moments of great valor. But Hunter x Hunter doesn't want you to think of this action as such. How do we know?



The fear. We see Gon's confidence shattered in front of him.

This is the second time in which we've seen Gon genuinely afraid in the entire series as well. The first time was ALSO in episode 16, during that mysterious night with Hisoka. Pay attention to the things that Zebro says to Gon. What is Zebro trying to teach the boy through showing him Mike in person? What does Gon see in the abyss of Mike's eyes?

Come to think about it, how many times thus far have we seen Gon's confidence in himself being shattered in the series? You can already count several occasions in which it happened throughout the Hunter Exam--episode 5, episode 16, episode 19. Gon will be praised for his abilities in one episode and then be completely destroyed by someone else in the next (i.e. Netero praises Gon for his speed in episode 7 and Sedokan does so in episode 9--in episode 19, Gon can't even take a single step without being completely outclassed).

Keep watching for more. The next episode covers one of my favorite chapters in the early parts of HxH.

kirAth-shiAue said:
Wow Toto_y_Moi, very interesting, detailed and thought out post.

Love how the gate looked. Still hate Gotoh. Mike looked scarier in the original, and they took out the chase scene. Still a really good episode. 4/5.

Toto_y_Moi said:

This is all we'll get of Mike for the arc, unless Madhouse adds in some more filler.

For those of you new to the series (or if you've only watched the 1999 series), it's important that you understand just how stupid it was for Gon to try and climb the Testing Gate. This is the first time in which Gon sees that there are consequences to his actions. Regardless of his intent to "rescue" Killua from his family, if he had climbed that wall like a typical Shonen protagonist, Gon would have died almost immediately.

The idea sounds ridiculous even on paper. Gon decides to break into the mansion belonging to the world's greatest assassins? He's twelve. Get real. Moreover, he didn't come to the conclusion after thinking it out rationally or deciding anything. It was something he did impulsively and in blind anger after Gotoh pissed him off.

This is the second time in which we've seen something like this in the series. Remember when Hanzo and Gon faced off in the Final Phase (Episode 19)? There was a line in it that should be addressed:

Gon: "[Hanzo] looks tough, but we should be even in terms of strength and speed."

...what? How can he even begin to believe something like that is true?

Pay attention to the things that Gon says and does. Ask yourself if these things make sense or not. Madhouse really understood what Togashi was trying to do here; the foolhardy, courageous music playing when Gon started climbing was shattered by the next scene.