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Mar 7, 2012 4:58 PM

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kizu-kun said:
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And I've personally given up on the normal Quincy theory simply because of the fact that they can use "bankai". The fact that they could have been shinigami (current or former) is probably the reason why Yamamoto looked shocked...



I pretty sure he didn't finish his sentence. I think he was trying to tell yama that they have the ability to dispell bankais like what Ivan was going to do to ichigo, not that they can actually use it.


In fact we do not know.

The verb is missing.

They bassically say

They can somthingsomething bankai.

verb usually goes in the end of the sentence in jp, thus WHAT they can do with bankai is left unsaid.

think of it as yoda-speak:
bankai, they can ________
 
Mar 7, 2012 5:10 PM

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To me its boring and the bad evil guy looks like Ichigos grandfather or something and why did he cut his arm and he did it without even moving lol and it would've been better if he cut his legs and put some wings on his back to fly around the room much better yeah.
And why didn't Ichigo killed ИВАН but no he needed to talk and let him escape.
 
Mar 7, 2012 5:37 PM

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The thing is, how would Sasikabe know that they could destroy bankai? While I guess he could have it, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say he does not have bankai. I think he was talking about something else, and the contrast with Ivan right after commenting on Ichigo's bankai not dissapearing was to throw us off.
 
Mar 7, 2012 5:39 PM

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The chapter was very meh to me. I know that the arc is just getting started and it'll probably pick up in time, but it feels like the chapters of the last few weeks could have easily been condensed into one or two chapters to me. As for the whole "They can Bankai" line, it doesn't have the effect that it probably should for me, no matter the meaning. If it's supposed to mean they can use Bankai, than it's not really that shocking given that the very concept of Bankai as this great power has started to wear down for me and it honestly doesn't feel like that big a deal anymore. If it means they can cancel Bankai, than that would probably be something important, but all we have is people SAYING it cancels out Bankai, without ever actually seeing it happen. The one time it's been used, it failed, so it doesn't feel all that threatening.
 
Mar 7, 2012 5:40 PM

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are they going to kidnap Orihime again to heal that guy's arm (again) ???? i kind of hope so hahaha
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Mar 7, 2012 5:53 PM

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kickthebucket said:
are they going to kidnap Orihime again to heal that guy's arm (again) ???? i kind of hope so hahaha


Haha. That would just make my day :/
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Mar 7, 2012 5:53 PM

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Bleach has really fallen wuts with every character startin to look alike the big boss looks like zangetsu and the dude who fought Ichigo, Ivan, looks just like the dude who got his arm cut off or blasted off i had high hopes for thist arc because of how they rushed the fullbringer arc but it just seems like another war between the quincys, who r supposed to be dead, and the soul reapers
 
Mar 7, 2012 7:35 PM

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I didn't enjoy the previous chapters of this arc, but this was awesome.

 
Mar 7, 2012 8:16 PM

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Whoooa, is that the guy behind the...what did Aizen call it? The "King's Key"?
 
Mar 7, 2012 8:56 PM

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Pretty sure whatshisname meant that they can seal Bankai, not THEY CAN BANKAI, which is hilarious sounding.

Buck Beard lolwut.


I'm surprised to be saying this, the new guy looks cool. He's like a tougher version of Kenpachi.
 
Mar 7, 2012 10:56 PM

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Fai said:
Also, people remember this?


NOw aizen will fight on the same side as Ichigo (they both are facing the silhouete who looks like the guy we just got introduced to)


lol Fai, you sure make things Bleach interesting with your thorough knowledge about it
so more likely Ulquiorra will be revive then
 
Mar 7, 2012 11:10 PM

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kickthebucket said:
are they going to kidnap Orihime again to heal that guy's arm (again) ???? i kind of hope so hahaha

Lol! Same here! xD
 
Mar 8, 2012 12:53 AM

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j0x said:
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Also, people remember this?


Now aizen will fight on the same side as Ichigo (they both are facing the silhouete who looks like the guy we just got introduced to)


lol Fai, you sure make things Bleach interesting with your thorough knowledge about it
so more likely Ulquiorra will be revive then


Nope. That cover art shows all the enemies Ichigo fought. and "got past" so to say. Its the path of Ichigo's from start to the finish, with those he defeated and learned something standing looking towards the reader while he looks towards the "future".
However Aizen stands equally with him looking towards the same direction Ichigo does towards the black thing in the upper corner of the cover.
 
Mar 8, 2012 1:13 AM

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The big boss name is Gold Roger XD


Yes, makes sense. Gol D. Roger didn't really die, it was a double. instead he stayed at Raftel which is really a portal to our world, where he then found his way to our world and him and his crew will fight Ichigo.
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Mar 8, 2012 2:48 AM

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And if that was the spirit king, holy crap, not what I expected... looked like Zangetsu's dad.


LOL I thought the same :DDD
 
Mar 8, 2012 7:53 AM

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So this mysterious group is provoking Soul Society for the sake of peace.

I think they're a rouge faction of the Royal Guard.
 
Mar 8, 2012 9:29 AM

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The dude on the last page does have some similarities with Zangetsu... maybe we will find something more - I have a feeling Zangetsu and Engetsu (and any othet -getsu that may join the part) will be important in the story...

Also, Ichigo constantly being stabbed in the chest, arms being cut off... wtf Kubo, are you trying to give us a hint about some kind of crazy fetish you have or what?
 
Mar 8, 2012 9:55 AM

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Risa_chan said:
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And if that was the spirit king, holy crap, not what I expected... looked like Zangetsu's dad.


LOL I thought the same :DDD

lol i hope he isnt the spirit king.xD he looks lame.;)
 
Mar 8, 2012 5:48 PM

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Arashi89 said:
An organization of characters before their leader in a pure white hideout.
One of which got all hot and bothered and went after Ichigo.
An unruly member is disciplined by having his arm removed.

For fuck's sake Kubo. Do you think we got the memory of a goldfish?


I totally agree. This is a horrible way of going about the end of Bleach. It looked like a good start, but it's going downhill very fast. I mean wtf, random guys coming and fighting without a reason. It looks like another Fullbring arc to me.
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Mar 8, 2012 6:49 PM

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i wonder whats this last arc is gonna end and I WANNA SEE RUKIA AGAIN!
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Mar 9, 2012 4:59 AM

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Lol, Kubo.
I'm losing interest again. So many generic villains and ineffective power hype. Hopefully things will improve soon. While Kubo occasionally has some good ideas, he's just not a story teller.

I'm going to go rewatch Yu Yu Hakusho, and cry over the future of the anime industry XD
 
Mar 9, 2012 7:16 AM

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Fai said:
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Fai said:
Also, people remember this?
*pic*

NOw aizen will fight on the same side as Ichigo (they both are facing the silhouete who looks like the guy we just got introduced to)
Where the hell does that picture come from? Don't remember it at all, but that silhouette could esily fit the man on the throne.

And something just hit me, Ivan said he wanted to destroy Ichigo's bankai, perhaps he wanted to make the soul inside his zanpakatou vanish just like a Quincy makes a hollow vanish. Perhaps it didn't work because Ichigo has already emptied out his inner world by using the final getsuga tenshou...

It would be an unbelievably practical coincidence, almost as if someone had prepared Ichigo for this meeting.


Its from the very start of fullbring arc.

Also I think its more because Ichigo is NOT exactly a shinigami now. He was already unique even at the start due to his birth circumstances and now his power is a weird mix of shinigami, arrancar and fullbringer. And not just a mix like with vaiizards arrancar or fb's, but truly something new. Pretty much ichigo was not affected because he is a transcendent.

And Yeah I am thinking Ichigo is SS pet project of breaking through into vandenreich(since "vandenreich is can be used as place as it means Invisible/Unseen/Hidden Realm/Empire).
I'm starting to remember the picture now, I think I even discussed it in a thread in MAL, must have been near the time when those side story chapters for the 4th Bleach movie popped up... weird how it just slipped my mind.

Hmm, whether it was the emptying of his inner world or the true fusion of his powers, the fact remains that it probably wouldn't be possible to stop that spell without FGT. In any case, I'm not sure what Ichigo is anymore, can't even guess right now.

But I don't know about him being a secret SS pet project, SS might have been aware of him before he was even born, they might have decided to use him, but not sure if they were involved in planting the seed. And then there's Karin, Ichigo's sister, who's also showing early signs of impressive abilities that are too similar to Ichigo's.

I think the secrets are hidden in Isshin's back story and who he is/was. He might have been connected to Aizen and Ukitake once... but he can't be a pawn of one of them... I think...

 
Mar 10, 2012 11:08 AM

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Is it just me... or is that place like EXACTLY similar to Hueco Mundo? xDD
And with the guy getting his arm chopped off too. Lawlz.
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Mar 11, 2012 9:04 AM

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Rizzle said:
So many generic villains and ineffective power hype.

Well, Bleach is a shounen manga. You can't escape the power hype with those.

I don't really know what to say about the chapter, it's still the start of a new arc so it's early to judge anything, imo, but I hope it won't disappoint...
 
Mar 12, 2012 6:57 AM

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Hmm.. am surprised no one commented on those guys saying to the commander that is not too hard to guess who we are.
So they are a known quantity or should be to the shinigami's. This mean that they certainly ain't some new power and they are ether a Quincy type or royal quarts.
With that am wondering why Yamamoto got so surprised by the bankai talk. Did he not figured out who they were? Since they said t was easy i thought he would immediately realize.

If that guy is the spirit kind i disagree with people saying he looks lame. He actually looks very cool. Kind of disappointed by the place if that's the case though. Why would be he be in a frozen place and in such a building?
The mentioning of piece brings interesting questions about him possibly being the spirit king.

Btw what is it with those things left and right of the building? It reminds of the home of Kuukaku.
 
Mar 12, 2012 9:17 AM

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The king of the empire ay.
 
Mar 14, 2012 3:00 AM

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interesting

they seem to all be a combination of arrancar, shinigami, quincy and whatever else you come across in bleach O_O


they won't kidnap orihime because even that byakuya+aizen offspring is most likely capable of using that silly healing tehnique
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Mar 14, 2012 8:51 AM

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-MgZ_ said:
The big boss name is Gold Roger XD

MY EXACT THOUGHTS...!!!!! trolol
Well... That was the most amusing thing in this chapter... =.=


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We haven't even seen Kyouraku and Ukitake's Bankai yet :p
Personally, I still want to see Zaraki's Bankai, or at least know its name... >.> That's the probem with Kubo-sensei, he keeps adding new characters and starting new arcs without ever finishing what he's already started. passes over old characters and patches together new ones, where's a chance for character development?!? At least complete the characters to begin with! OTL...
And I'm not going to stop complaining about Zangatsu either. Does he even remember him?! Ichigo recovered his powers at last, and his powers=Zangetsu, basically, so where the hell is he?!?! After that emotional farewell when Aizen was defeated (holy crap, that was a long time ago) you're just going to pass over the reunion?! Don't mess with me man!!!

... so what was I saying? oh right,
ENTER, GOL D. ROGER!!!!!!!
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Mar 14, 2012 9:03 AM

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Whoooa, is that the guy behind the...what did Aizen call it? The "King's Key"?
That's what I'm thinking, But it's been so long since the "King" guy was brought up that I think Kubo-Sensei even forgot about it... OTL lol. It's not like it was mentioned much in the first place, was it? for a second I was doubting if it was even from this series... oh jeez. I mean, they did say "it should be easy to guess who we are" but that could mean anything to us dumb readers (seriously, Kubo thinks we're dumb, right?) I was really thinking maybe they were Quincys... but who knows. I won't even bother with how horribly this arc is starting, I think everyone else has covered that pretty well. We probably shouldn't be too had on the Mangaka, if I were writing the same series for the past decade I'd be getting pretty washed out too... ahhh...
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For the rest of you waiting with me... GO READ GINTAMA NOW!! (start at 372 where the anime left off)
And everyone else, GO WATCH GINTAMA!! IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!!!
 
Mar 14, 2012 2:57 PM

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hungry_bunny said:

It would be an unbelievably practical coincidence, almost as if someone had prepared Ichigo for this meeting.


That would be hilarious. Ichigo defeats the final villain, the day is saved, last panel showing Aizen "So Ichigo won? Everything went according to plan. I was good all along, you can release me now."
 
Mar 14, 2012 6:11 PM

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Ok, so glad to see i'm not the only one seeing the resemblance between Zangetsu. I was kind of thinking, what if that is Zangetsu and the reason the guy was so surprised about Ichigo's bankai is because their leader is Zangetsu?!?
 
Mar 15, 2012 10:19 AM

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Arashi89 said:
An organization of characters before their leader in a pure white hideout.
One of which got all hot and bothered and went after Ichigo.
An unruly member is disciplined by having his arm removed.

For fuck's sake Kubo. Do you think we got the memory of a goldfish?

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Mar 16, 2012 10:23 AM

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Damn, just learned that Bleach is absent from Weekly Shonen Jump this week. Would have been nice if they had marked that somewhere in chapter 484. Another week of waiting for 485.

 
Mar 18, 2012 1:38 PM

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hungry_bunny said:
Damn, just learned that Bleach is absent from Weekly Shonen Jump this week. Would have been nice if they had marked that somewhere in chapter 484. Another week of waiting for 485.

Yeah. Or on some kind of a timetable.
 
Mar 19, 2012 9:25 PM

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that buckbeard is the zangetsu look alike is behind of trying to steal ichigo bankai?
 
Mar 20, 2012 3:36 PM

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*sigh*

I'm getting Rumiko Takahashi syndrome from some of these villain designs. Why do so many of these guys look related to Aizen somehow? The chapter served its purpose, but did little to get me excited for what's coming up.

 
Apr 3, 2012 1:05 AM

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Lolwut. We got a place that looks eerily similar to Las Noches...

That Ivan guy was like Grimmjow, except the Ulquiorra-like guy was the one who got his arm chopped off. Lulz.

Big, bad, boss is already revealed?
 
Apr 16, 2012 10:57 AM

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omg the guy at the end looked like zangetsu!!! (also why is there so many people in bleach looking like aizen??) and seriously... 15 pages only? WHY! why can't we AT LEAST have 20 pages to enjoy, half of the bleach chapters are dust and smashes! I'm beginning to dislike bleach.... fairy tail progresses so much during a single chapter whilst bleach has been in that same scene for 3 chapters with lack of intresting info! (except for the zangetsu looking guy, that was pretty awesome)


This was another slow chapter that at least did raise my interest level. It had some interesting parts, but I agree, lots of dust and explosions, very little advancing the plot meaningfully.

 
Jun 12, 2013 3:23 PM

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okay everybody. your guess was correct =D.. that zangetsu look like guy juha bach.. he was actually zangetsu itself :D
 
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Wow zangetsu??? Wtf

 
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