Crunchyroll Announces Spring 2012 Simulcasts

Sir_Lexa said:

Oh God. Deen -_-'

LightAndDark said:
Surely the first post meant Spring instead of winter? But this will be good.

Hoppy said:
I'll pass on that garbage anime.

Takashi981 said:
Maybe I'll watch this...

jmal said:
Oh hell is the Spring season that close already? I guess it just feels that way since they're announcing earlier (it seems) than usual. But man the seasons seem to go so fast.

kaito696 said:
they better anounce the second season of fate/zero

bci110 said:
A lot of Studio DEEN bashing on this thread. Did I miss something?

Siva said:
Studio DEEN is like any others Studios out there, never a single studio could do everything and they tend to have something they are bad at. Does that mean Studio DEEN is bad? NO, and in fact I like them.

RyanSaotome said:
My biggest problem with DEEN is that they often pick up ecchi series when they have a history of never having nudity in their shows.. so many ecchi series with lots of nudity in the LN or Manga never get adapted correctly when DEEN picks them up. So basically I lose any hope of ecchi then (like Sankarea had a lot of potential if it wasn't DEEN that picked it up)

McRib said:
Deen + Visual Novel = NO THANK YOU

This has nearly a 100% chance of being absolutely terrible.

Hoppy said:
I'll pass on that garbage anime.

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:


When do you people get it:
Sales don't mean quality!
Japanese otakus (male & female apparently) have shit taste and quality shows don't sell most of the time.

And I personally love the Shoujo/Josei Genre, but as Harem Moeblob series are the trashcan of shounen/romance genres Bishis/reverse harem is the same for shoujo. I have no problem with people enjoying stuff like that, but please don't pretend it's quality stuff just because it sells. It's fanservice, that's all it is (that is also why it sells).

And it's not like good shoujo romances are that rare, other genres are way less present.

And why should anyone stay out of a thread that is for all the crunchyroll simulcasts? Who can know beforehand that only 1 uninteresting show has been announced so far with that thread title?

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
@jmal: Entertainment is the religion of the 21st Century ;)

And I don't see a problem with differentiating between enjoyment and quality of a series. For me every medium (books, comics, films, animes) is Art and that judges the quality of a show.
Enjoyment is another aspect that of course is intertwined in practice, but I can still differentiate between them without judging one aspect more important. Often good movies/animes/books take a lot of effort to watch, because they force you actively think about what's going on instead of just providing passive entertainment. Though I love my passive entertainment too, I can and will never consent that Entertainment/Success = quality. And yes quality is more objective than enjoyment, that's why I can say some series were probably good even though I hated them and the other way round. No Big Deal.

If people feel under attack or pressured when I say something is not of good quality, but still enjoyable, it's not me that does the judging but they themselves. Instead of being honest about it and admitting that some shows are watched of pure, passive enjoyment THEY can't get over the idea that what they enjoy must be considered "good", but I don't see the necessity of that connection, not for me and not for others.

As for your "productive" example at the end, experience tells me that with people of similar intellect who also like to discuss and analyze stuff you can almost always find a common denominator even for shows that you both have rated very differently. For example I'd understand people who drop One Piece though I give it a fanboy 10/10. I'd still heavily debate it with them because I'm a fanboy and it's fun, but I'd kinda understand. Also liking LOGH is a good criteria, as someone who disliked it obviously has other preferences than substance and depth in a series and therefore I don't even need to try to find a common denominator with him.
It's not like I'm the only person thinking like that. You need to postulate the quality side of the coin, because if you only left the entertainment side there would be nothing to discuss about at all - a horrible thought.
That's why I wonder why people who don't want to discuss about an "objective side" keep complaining that I/we do in fact enjoy exactly that. I personally find the LOGH criteria to work well in weeding out those people who are not interested in a discussion that involves more than saying "I enjoyed it for no reason I can explain but you can't argue about that because taste is all subjective" (well that was a fun dialogue). But of course that criteria is subjective again, but as long as it works for me I don't care.

Bottomline: If I start arguing about something and start a discussion it is a call to those who also believe there is something to debate about and not to those peace and harmony loving creatures that find conflict and debate not interesting and challenging, but needless and annoying. Because obviously you and me have different presuppositions about the very basics of debate (is their objectivity aka something to discuss inter-subjectively or not?). For me this is a needless debate, because you're actually arguing that nothing can be argued, which is silly.

@the fangirl above: First of all I repeat that there are a lot of great shoujo romances out there, it's not like I have anything against the genre. I have something against harems of all kind, but that's only a small part of the shoujo genre.

That aside the mere act of dividing shows strictly into "for boys or for girls" is absolutely against my values. It's not like you have to limit yourself to stuff with a shoujo lable (though I admit the best romances are labeled shoujo).

In any case I understand you'd like to love in a fluffy world with no conflict or uncomfortable opinions, and that is sweet and all, but I like to debate and when I'm in the mood I'll just use the first topic where I want to say something, be it negative or positive (though in a debate one is always "negative" towards one of the sides, by definition). I have no obligation to be happy about shows airing that don't interest me in the least, I'd say it's rather natural that I, if possible, would rather see a series that appeals to me taking its place (Not that I ever said that - I simply tried to explain why I'm 99% sure this show will neither be very good not will it entertain me personally. If you take things like that personally the internet will chew you hard and spit you out in no time. Consider that a tip from me. Either debate just for the fun of it as I do, no emotions involved, or leave it be. Getting emotional over internet arguments is not very healthy. I may have been a bit mean, but that's only because your postings were so gullible and I wanted to prepare you for the internet *gg*

Redfoxoffire said:
Not to break up the amazing discussion, but as far as the topic goes, Nyarko-san has been added.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I'll just pretend I never read this (it helps that it's not in the DB) and read some Lovercraft.

Redfoxoffire said:
Space Bros added. Not exactly a surprise, right?