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Mar 2, 2012 10:57 PM

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dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?

3/5 for this episode.


Saya intends to use the other worlds to rid people of their worries - by making them horrible, then killing them completely with the other world. She enjoys it.

Black Rock Shooter is Mato's 'Other Self', and Mato was linked to her fully by Yuu/STR in the last bit of the episode.
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
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dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?

3/5 for this episode.


yea, got confused too. someone make this clear for me, if youre grief/suffering dies in the over-action-scene world, you get better in the real over-dramatic world and you sever all your connection to the cause of your grief/suffering? and thats bad and must be stopped?
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amginex said:
dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?

3/5 for this episode.


yea, got confused too. someone make this clear for me, if youre grief/suffering dies in the over-action-scene world, you get better in the real over-dramatic world and you sever all your connection to the cause of your grief/suffering? and thats bad and must be stopped?


Please just read my last few posts.. Yes, all memories to do with the event are erased from their memory
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
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Mar 3, 2012 12:15 AM

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So far I'm loving this series soooo much. The fight scenes are brilliant and the story had this dark twisted drama style that is so intriguing to watch. That combined with the symbolisms in the show makes this one of the most unique animes I've ever scene and this episode totally Sims up all my feelings of the show so far. One thing I'd like to point out is that counselor is insane. She needs to be fired. Since the past few episodes she's been acting very strange. The stuff she says to kids who come to her for help is pretty twisted. I'm afraid that she's going to say something to one of the kids and their like going to kill themselves or something. This episode has also answered questions and made questions. One thing I'd like to know is what happens to someone who dies in the real world? What happens to their alternate dimension counterpart? Who or what is Yuu? Does everyone have a person who fights for them? I'm completely excited to see the rest of this!
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BRSxIgnition said:
amginex said:
dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?

3/5 for this episode.


yea, got confused too. someone make this clear for me, if youre grief/suffering dies in the over-action-scene world, you get better in the real over-dramatic world and you sever all your connection to the cause of your grief/suffering? and thats bad and must be stopped?


Please just read my last few posts.. Yes, all memories to do with the event are erased from their memory


ah got it. i did actually check your previous posts. but in this episode, they used kagari and arata as examples of 'dying' in the "action world" and after that, in the real world, they actually got over their issues, becomes more independent and got BETTER, OR did i watch it wrong?
so im guessing Mato wants to save Yomi from dying in the 'action world' so Yomi wont forget her in the real world?

3 epi left, hopefully im wrong with my assumptions
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Mar 3, 2012 1:31 AM

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what is this i dont even


Please, somebody explain.
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Either they'll explain this madness in the last few episodes, or we're going to have to rewatch it until we get it.
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Mar 3, 2012 5:58 AM

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Emotions and Nightmares.

Brrrrrrr it's given me the chills.
Mar 3, 2012 7:35 AM

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Wow that amazing. IBRS vs Saw is going to be epic.
Mar 3, 2012 8:09 AM

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Either they'll explain this madness in the last few episodes, or we're going to have to rewatch it until we get it.


... I'm really lost as to why so many people don't get it.

Check my last few posts, they explain everything, and I've only watched each episode once.
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
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Mar 3, 2012 9:04 AM

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After rewatching, this is pretty meh. I can't even relate to the cast because everything is so forced. And I can't stand the fucking animation, Yomi looks constipated very often. =/

2/5 for this episode after all. I hope it'll get better because this is really, really meh.
Mar 3, 2012 9:36 AM

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I finally feel that Yuu is worthy of being Strength! :D!

Also, all the times they asked her about saving Yomi I died a bit each time because that question and answer made me bawl at the end of the ova ;.; " I dont want to save her, I just want to talk to her again!"
Mar 3, 2012 9:41 AM

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The episode started off great, but I thought it got kind of weak towards the end. I hope the show comes up with some explanation as to how Yu sent Mato to the Other World. I had a feeling the show was going to intertwine the fantasy/reality elements at some point, but not this early on. Does Yu have psychic powers no one knows about, or did she assimilate from the Other World into modern day Japan and erase herself from existence when the going got tough?

(Yes, I was making comparisons to the Haruhi Suzumiya movie towards the end.)
Mar 3, 2012 9:45 AM
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Spooky_Sez said:
Either they'll explain this madness in the last few episodes, or we're going to have to rewatch it until we get it.


... I'm really lost as to why so many people don't get it.


^^
I don't think this story is convoluted or complicated. It's really really simple plot and storytelling.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
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BRSxIgnition said:
Spooky_Sez said:
Either they'll explain this madness in the last few episodes, or we're going to have to rewatch it until we get it.


... I'm really lost as to why so many people don't get it.

Check my last few posts, they explain everything, and I've only watched each episode once.


thats kinda biased isnt it? i mean you have the BRS avatar and claimed to be a major fan. so you already know almost everything in comparison to people who are new to the series.

and its not about hating, some newbies to the show like me (i like the OVA) is actually trying to get a hold of the story. With so many switching "worlds" scenes and what seems to be endless long-driven over-exaggerated battles, it seems like theyre trying to cover what seems like a weak plot. but yeah, heres to hoping the last 3 episodes will tie it all up and everything will be clearer
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Damn, I'm really starting to enjoy this show. Didn't expect that at all after the terrible OVA. But who knows, maybe if I go back and watch the OVA now I might like it..
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amginex said:
BRSxIgnition said:
Spooky_Sez said:
Either they'll explain this madness in the last few episodes, or we're going to have to rewatch it until we get it.


... I'm really lost as to why so many people don't get it.

Check my last few posts, they explain everything, and I've only watched each episode once.


thats kinda biased isnt it? i mean you have the BRS avatar and claimed to be a major fan. so you already know almost everything in comparison to people who are new to the series.


Thing is, it's not a series, it's an IP. Other than the OVA and Anime, none of the Black Rock Shooter stories tie together at all, all of them take place in different locations, in different times, with different characters.

The only things I know that help me when watching the anime is that I know what the character names are - that's it. Other than that, I know as much about the anime plot as someone completely new to BRS.

Maybe I'm just making a bit more effort to understand it, but even then, it's not that hard to understand..
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
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Mar 3, 2012 11:22 AM

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This is quite possibly the worst anime I have ever seen. I've never seen so much unintentionally hilarious melodrama in one episode of an anime in my life.


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Love this. ^^^^

dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?


Yes, Black Rock Shooter is Mato just her "other self."

@BRSxIgnition I can kind of see where people are finding it hard to understand. Maybe not paying close enough attention? I personally have found everything easy to follow and understand so far though.
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Mar 3, 2012 11:47 AM

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I just looked at previous episode 4, and Yuu never really had a shadow o.o
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I hope they'll do something great with the BRS universe they've thought up someday. I feel like they have a great concept to work with but they fail the execution of it completely.
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Quoted from Shadowmage from Behind the Nihon Review,

"One of these days I’m going to get on Final Cut Pro and split Black Rock Shooter into two separate shows. One will be a melodrama about two school girls becoming best friends. The other will be a series of anime style video game cut scenes. Neither will be particularly good but both will be far superior to what Black Rock Shooter is now. For some inexplicable reason, the anime tries to build a meaningful drama from unremarkable characters set in a generic plot with the “interesting” hook being that their internal emotions are somehow personified with fight scenes amongst their alter egos. The problem is that the core drama itself feels so rushed and so forced that the fight scenes fail to feel meaningful and just come across as confusing."

http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20120222/winter-2012-mid-season-impressions/

He describes perfectly what I feel.
Mar 3, 2012 2:55 PM

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He describes perfectly what I feel.


I agree with it feeling rushed, but that can be blamed on the shorter running time than even most 1-cour anime. 8 Episodes is simply not enough to tell a good story - but at the same time - it could have been so much worse.

I wish they made it into a 25-episode series with more adult characters and a darker plot/drama behind it. Here's hoping for that!
"Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own."
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Mar 3, 2012 3:53 PM
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I hope they'll do something great with the BRS universe they've thought up someday. I feel like they have a great concept to work with but they fail the execution of it completely.


There's really only so much you can do with a Vocaloid song.
Mar 3, 2012 4:17 PM

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Pure crap.
Nothing new.
Mar 3, 2012 4:20 PM

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BRShooter00 said:
Cloudenvy said:
I hope they'll do something great with the BRS universe they've thought up someday. I feel like they have a great concept to work with but they fail the execution of it completely.


There's really only so much you can do with a Vocaloid song.


What? they've done a lot with it.
Now if they can just do decent drama, pacing and such then they have a hit on their hands.

The execution is the problem, not the concept.
Mar 3, 2012 5:03 PM

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I'm not sure who I hate more. Kagari or Saya......I think it's a draw.
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OMG The girl drama in this show is so good! It's top stuff along with Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, Ga Rei Zero, and Manabi Straight. I love it so much!

I hope Mato is alright because she's so cool! All the other girls are cool too, except Yomi as she could use some cheering up for sure. Well looks like it may be too late for her now.

BRS TV shrunked down to 8 episodes really sucks. Wanted it to be longer too. Oh well, but if it ends right with me it'll be 9++/10 which looks like a likely possibility.
Mar 3, 2012 5:20 PM

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So I'm still wondering, is Kagari still insane? Or is she just a dick? lol
Mar 3, 2012 7:03 PM

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Oh I'm a bastard. I laughed when Mato said Yomi and then saw that she was near-death.

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Am I the only one who thinks that Yuu purposely send Mato to the other world when Black Rock Shooter killed Dead Master, all this to awake insane Black Rock Shooter so she could fight with Black Gold Saw? I think so primarly because Yuu apologized to both Mato and Black Rock Shooter in the end of the episode, like she knew this was going to happen.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Yuu purposely send Mato to the other world when Black Rock Shooter killed Dead Master, all this to awake insane Black Rock Shooter so she could fight with Black Gold Saw? I think so primarly because Yuu apologized to both Mato and Black Rock Shooter in the end of the episode, like she knew this was going to happen.


Nope, you right.
Also, Yuu = Strenght
Mar 3, 2012 7:45 PM
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Nope, you right.
Also, Yuu = Strenght

Yes, I know that. The end of the OVA made it pretty clear. ^^ It looks like Strenght is trying to clean the mess of Black Gold Saw using Black Rock Shooter.
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Insane Black Rock Shooter is what made this episode for me.
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This is the most melodramatic show I have ever fucking seen, dear lord.
Mar 3, 2012 11:32 PM

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Flipping brutal!!
I don't enjoy this at all!D:

Mar 4, 2012 1:24 AM

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Quoted from Shadowmage from Behind the Nihon Review,

"One of these days I’m going to get on Final Cut Pro and split Black Rock Shooter into two separate shows. One will be a melodrama about two school girls becoming best friends. The other will be a series of anime style video game cut scenes. Neither will be particularly good but both will be far superior to what Black Rock Shooter is now. For some inexplicable reason, the anime tries to build a meaningful drama from unremarkable characters set in a generic plot with the “interesting” hook being that their internal emotions are somehow personified with fight scenes amongst their alter egos. The problem is that the core drama itself feels so rushed and so forced that the fight scenes fail to feel meaningful and just come across as confusing."

http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20120222/winter-2012-mid-season-impressions/

He describes perfectly what I feel.
'Cept for the fact that the source of the fights in the other world is the drama.

Like I said, the problem is that it's too short. It's trying to squish too much drama in too short a time without leaving space for breathing room in between. The drama wouldn't feel that forced if there were some developments and down time to spread it all out.
Mar 4, 2012 1:29 AM

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I still think this show isn't yuri and that wasn't a Mato x Yuu kiss.

...Just because. XD
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andreyue said:
I just looked at previous episode 4, and Yuu never really had a shadow o.o

When did you see it? I've just watched that Koha didn't react for Yuu at 4:47.
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INSANE BLACK ROCK SHOOTER is just too awesome !!

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Kurogashi said:
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Do you think wBRS will appear here?

I know nothing about the BRS franchise - just did a tiny bit of wiki-ing though.


wow, i wasn't into too much of this franchise, there are a lot of characters there to look into, this catched my eye, maybe when iBRS calm down could be able to transform into it to defeat Gold Saw.

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dashiawia said:
This episode really confused me. I still don't understand what Saya intends to do by messing with the students' heads. And who exactly is Black Rock Shooter? Is she supposed to be Mato's other self?

3/5 for this episode.


Saya intends to use the other worlds to rid people of their worries - by making them horrible, then killing them completely with the other world. She enjoys it.

Black Rock Shooter is Mato's 'Other Self', and Mato was linked to her fully by Yuu/STR in the last bit of the episode.


But why she make other's world entities fight instead of killing them by herself through Gold Saw ?

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andreyue said:
I just looked at previous episode 4, and Yuu never really had a shadow o.o

When did you see it? I've just watched that Koha didn't react for Yuu at 4:47.


just skimmed the previous episodes and always yuu appears inside shadows (so no shadow would be proyected) and the only part when should have casted a shadow it doesn't appear (episode 4):

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Nope, you right.
Also, Yuu = Strenght

Yes, I know that. The end of the OVA made it pretty clear. ^^ It looks like Strenght is trying to clean the mess of Black Gold Saw using Black Rock Shooter.


No, its the contrary.
Strenght is working for Gold Saw from the beginning. She just don't share her motives and also, after all this time as Mato's friend her conscience is in crisis.
I predict that Strength will switch sides in the final battle.

And, anyone see this, that Mato/Shooter will die?
That book kept talking about that bird that went taking a lot of colors and they were mixing up until his wings get black. When this happened, the bird died.
I am the only one who sees the bird as Mato?
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xumi said:

just skimmed the previous episodes and always yuu appears inside shadows (so no shadow would be proyected) and the only part when should have casted a shadow it doesn't appear (episode 4):

What really intrigues me.
Throughout the whole life of Mato, nobody ever noticed her talking and doing tantrum alone? She had no friends?
So sad...
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Much better than the previous episodes - but that's not saying much. xD

Ending was good, though - and finally! They are connecting the 'other world' with the normal world.
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Oh, wow, that was a great ep. So much going on, I don't really get any of it, but I can't wait for next week. I love how the two worlds are tying together, and it's just one thing after the other...

I really think this episode hints (at least) that Mato's the Tiny Bird, not Yomi. I always thought so, but this ep makes me think it's true.
Mar 4, 2012 6:01 PM

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This episode was great!
The only thing I didn't got was why everybody forgot about Yuu?
Mar 4, 2012 7:17 PM

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oh hell yes, loved this episode, best yet! of course i love the entire series and all of the characters. but black rock shooter all the way! so what's going on...why does nobody remember yuu??
am i missing something..?
but its cool that yuu can control her self in the other world, i wonder how and when it started.
anyways can't wait for next ep!
Mar 4, 2012 9:11 PM
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I still think BGS is Kurisutina.
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So BRS is now going berserk? am I sensing Evangelion vibe here?

Mar 5, 2012 1:58 AM
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It bugs me that Yuu and Mato were best friends but Yuu was hiding what she knew all this time. Can't wait till this is explained. Hopefully it will be.

Read around and it seems some think Yuu is a spirit. That just seems kind of lame and kind of sad. Feels like this might finish bittersweet. <_<
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And now Mato broke too? Please go for a bad ending and it would actually redeem some of the horrible aspects of this show.

The bird died? That's a very depressing story for such a book though...

The slap was awesome. 4/5.
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